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goDie wrote:

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mytmouse76 wrote:

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Scientific Method wrote:

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And I live in Oklahoma LDJ yes. Again, grew up in probably a top 3 desirable neighborhood in the city and like I said, high percentage of blacks. Most would say that was a good thing. We got doctors, lawyers, ex athletes, retired and active Military, teachers and professors, accountants, small business owners, the whole gamut; obviously all people who took their education seriously, set goals for their lives, and achieved them rather than falling into the victimhood woe is me mentality. But only you could find a way to try to make it seem negative because they're not still in the hood around nonsense and come up with all these shuk and jiving, tapdancing, house *&^*%% analogies so you can weave your disdain for white people into it. Talk about counterproductive.

You reject education, success, money, and moving on up to the East side all as white ideals, what do you even want black people to do/become? If you could snap your fingers and make it so, what would we be like?

  

i think his point is where you grew up seeing these types of people you had something to aspire to...kids in the hood don't see that...they see the drug dealer w/the nice stuff or the girl dating the drug dealer & he's buying her nice stuff so thats what they aspire too

if the doctors and lawyers etc were more visible to kids in lower income areas they too would aspire to do that

Its not that thats the only thing they see. I think its more thats what the community glorifies.

The black community, %%$% Ill take it one step further and include the latino community...we tend to glorify the dude who done hustled his way to the top. That whole flashy lifestyle we want that.

Sure our surroundings dictate what we aspire to be but why dont we look at the flip side?

For every dude that got the clothes, the car and the women by sellin rocks theres 10 dudes who dont know where their next meal is coming from?

Why we all focus on that one dude instead of doing everything we can to not end up like those 10 other dudes?

goDie wrote:

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You mentioned that what we see in the hood with the whole drug dealer stuff is the reason why we tend to emulate that...or "aspire" as you put it.

Im suggesting to you why dont we look at the other side of the same coin?
Why dont we look at all the people in that very same hood who didnt make it and aspire to be nothing like them?

I just think its easy to say "well thats all they know from their surroundings" but in reality we see a lot more poverty than we see that successful drug dealer yet its taking way too many generations to break that cycle.