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Is "Distant Relatives" Better Than "WTT?"

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Deuce King		#101	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 9781 11/30/11 10:52 AM	RavageBX wrote: The most important words you hear on this entire album are "we", "us", "our", etc. It's all over the album. "We" made it in America. "We" ain't supposed to be here. Millions of "our" people lost. Those with selective hearing only hear Kanye and Jay talking about themselves when in fact over the span of the entire album they're speaking for black people as a whole. Team DC/MD/VA Cough up a lung..Where Im From!! O.G. Member #5
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LuketheJediKnight		#102	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 1122 11/30/11 11:06 AM	@ sillyputty While I agree that Patience is a great song, it's easy for people to confuse "dropping knowledge" as necessarily making good music. There are plenty of records that I've listened to across all genres that "drop knowledge" that were subpar. Dylan and Harrison (among two of my favorite lyricists in music history along with Nesta himself) "dropped knowledge" all the time; they've also released duds IMO. Patience contains more "knowledge" than a record like say, "One Love" by Damian's father, guess which one is better in my eyes? I love listening to music that educates. It's also hardly the only kind of music that I enjoy or consider good, espeically for different moments. Lupe is a better artist to me than Waka and certainly displays more "knowledge" in music, but Flockaveli's gotten way more spins than Lasers in my ITunes Last Edited By: LuketheJediKnight 11/30/11 11:12 AM. Edited 1 time.
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Peep Game		#103	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 5070 11/30/11 1:11 PM	LuketheJediKnight wrote: @ sillyputty While I agree that Patience is a great song, it's easy for people to confuse "dropping knowledge" as necessarily making good music. There are plenty of records that I've listened to across all genres that "drop knowledge" that were subpar. Dylan and Harrison (among two of my favorite lyricists in music history along with Nesta himself) "dropped knowledge" all the time; they've also released duds IMO. Patience contains more "knowledge" than a record like say, "One Love" by Damian's father, guess which one is better in my eyes? I love listening to music that educates. It's also hardly the only kind of music that I enjoy or consider good, espeically for different moments. Lupe is a better artist to me than Waka and certainly displays more "knowledge" in music, but Flockaveli's gotten way more spins than Lasers in my ITunes Completely agree with those. It's the same notion that all rap/hip hop that strays from the norm or is "different" is automatically good. That's why I find it funny when someone who solely listens to Soulja Boy is arguing with someone who listens the most obscure buried underground rapper ever. Their points tend to negate each other, and neither realize that they are arguing the same point and agreeing with each other at the same time. And that's cause Flockaveli bangs and Lasers is awful *Houston Texans Seattle Seahawks Houston* *Rockets* Spurs Supersonics @MegaWuBanga RIDING WITH LEINART
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Deuce King		#104	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 9784 11/30/11 1:52 PM	I love listening to music that educates. It's also hardly the only kind of music that I enjoy or consider good, espeically for different moments. I completely agree. There are artists that "drop knowledge" but really don't know how to make music, and there are artists that make music but don't know how to "drop knowledge". Then there are artists that are able to do both effortlessly. Those are the best because they are well-balanced. Team DC/MD/VA Cough up a lung..Where Im From!! O.G. Member #5
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throwedyonasb		#105	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 4103 11/30/11 2:02 PM	Dathbgboy wrote: Yea, Apples to Oranges but if I had to choose, I'd take DR over WTT qft @YonasB TEAM ETHIOPIA
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grittyman20		#106	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 13155 11/30/11 2:22 PM	Haven't listened to DR since this thread was made
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RufioRufioRufio		#107	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 878 11/30/11 3:27 PM	no offense but i don't really get any knowledge from music. DR was cool in lyrical content. but did it bloww my mind? not really. I love the black empowerment of WTT, not black btw. but the idea of we us and our is what is needed. in terms of dam marl i eff with him. nas he fell off since it was written. KNIGHT.LOVES.QUEEN
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imINchucks5		#108	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 3146 11/30/11 3:39 PM	I personally enjoyed WTT more
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sillyputty		#109	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 1870 11/30/11 4:29 PM	Peep Game wrote: LuketheJediKnight wrote: @ sillyputty While I agree that Patience is a great song, it's easy for people to confuse "dropping knowledge" as necessarily making good music. There are plenty of records that I've listened to across all genres that "drop knowledge" that were subpar. Dylan and Harrison (among two of my favorite lyricists in music history along with Nesta himself) "dropped knowledge" all the time; they've also released duds IMO. Patience contains more "knowledge" than a record like say, "One Love" by Damian's father, guess which one is better in my eyes? I love listening to music that educates. It's also hardly the only kind of music that I enjoy or consider good, espeically for different moments. Lupe is a better artist to me than Waka and certainly displays more "knowledge" in music, but Flockaveli's gotten way more spins than Lasers in my ITunes Completely agree with those. It's the same notion that all rap/hip hop that strays from the norm or is "different" is automatically good. That's why I find it funny when someone who solely listens to Soulja Boy is arguing with someone who listens the most obscure buried underground rapper ever. Their points tend to negate each other, and neither realize that they are arguing the same point and agreeing with each other at the same time. And that's cause Flockaveli bangs and Lasers is awful Bruh...I completely agree with you Me and my boys got this chant we do where were yellin' out "ROUND OF APPLAUSE SHAWTY MAKE DAT *** CLAP!" and we're all clapping and its all good times LOL...but what Nas and Damian marley did AND how GREAT it sounds (to me) is something WTT didn't do. WTT talking on deep topics seemed contrived and forced. It lacked that organic sound. It seemed like a Jay-Z ft Kanye song or a Kanye Ft. Jay-Z song. It clashed too much. Their personalities are really too different for them have made some of those songs... Me me Distant Relatives has a more mature sound and specials on more mature topics in a way that is easier to be embraced and immediately remembered. There was a lot of struggle bars and ATTEMPTS at being deep on WTT. Again, there is a difference between trying and doing...there was a lot of TRYING on WTT. "Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY." --Herman Goering at the Nuremberg Trials
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Seymore CAKE		#110	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 23565 11/30/11 5:27 PM	I came in here to see if you were trolling when you made this thread or were serious to my surprise were completely serious Then I saw this: LuketheJediKnight wrote: Apples and oranges imo, both are great records, neither are classics. DR could be one if you just had Damian do that entire album solo. All I can do is You Are Now Riding With The Southside Good Guys!!! ...
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LuketheJediKnight		#111	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 1123 11/30/11 5:28 PM	sillyputty wrote: Peep Game wrote: LuketheJediKnight wrote: @ sillyputty While I agree that Patience is a great song, it's easy for people to confuse "dropping knowledge" as necessarily making good music. There are plenty of records that I've listened to across all genres that "drop knowledge" that were subpar. Dylan and Harrison (among two of my favorite lyricists in music history along with Nesta himself) "dropped knowledge" all the time; they've also released duds IMO. Patience contains more "knowledge" than a record like say, "One Love" by Damian's father, guess which one is better in my eyes? I love listening to music that educates. It's also hardly the only kind of music that I enjoy or consider good, espeically for different moments. Lupe is a better artist to me than Waka and certainly displays more "knowledge" in music, but Flockaveli's gotten way more spins than Lasers in my ITunes Completely agree with those. It's the same notion that all rap/hip hop that strays from the norm or is "different" is automatically good. That's why I find it funny when someone who solely listens to Soulja Boy is arguing with someone who listens the most obscure buried underground rapper ever. Their points tend to negate each other, and neither realize that they are arguing the same point and agreeing with each other at the same time. And that's cause Flockaveli bangs and Lasers is awful Bruh...I completely agree with you Me and my boys got this chant we do where were yellin' out "ROUND OF APPLAUSE SHAWTY MAKE DAT *** CLAP!" and we're all clapping and its all good times LOL...but what Nas and Damian marley did AND how GREAT it sounds (to me) is something WTT didn't do. WTT talking on deep topics seemed contrived and forced. It lacked that organic sound. It seemed like a Jay-Z ft Kanye song or a Kanye Ft. Jay-Z song. It clashed too much. Their personalities are really too different for them have made some of those songs... Me me Distant Relatives has a more mature sound and specials on more mature topics in a way that is easier to be embraced and immediately remembered. There was a lot of struggle bars and ATTEMPTS at being deep on WTT. Again, there is a difference between trying and doing...there was a lot of TRYING on WTT. I liked the album and the lyrics on it. Oh well. They took their own personal experiences and made songs based on them for an audience that varies alot more in demographic make-up than Nas/Damian. That's not easy to do. As far as the "deepness" thing (and I'm not talking about DR specifically here, just in general) there's a lot of @%%+#+ in music that's passed off as "deep". Doesn't mean the music necessarily sounds good to my ears. I spend alot of time learning about the world in university and volunteer work anyway, so I think if you want to use music to teach and raise awareness about certain topics it needs to be done right. It's important because some kids out there tend to use the records as their primary and sole source of learning, which ain't a good thing. Last Edited By: LuketheJediKnight 11/30/11 5:37 PM. Edited 2 times.
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LuketheJediKnight		#112	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 1124 11/30/11 5:41 PM	Seymore CAKE wrote: I came in here to see if you were trolling when you made this thread or were serious to my surprise were completely serious Then I saw this: LuketheJediKnight wrote: Apples and oranges imo, both are great records, neither are classics. DR could be one if you just had Damian do that entire album solo. All I can do is I'm merely stating an opinion. Problem? I thought Damian stood out more for me on this record overall.
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Seymore CAKE		#113	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 23566 11/30/11 5:44 PM	Your opinion is your opinion, besides the fact that I found it hilarious I could give a @%#$ about it honestly. Carry On. You Are Now Riding With The Southside Good Guys!!! ...
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Maximus Meridius		#114	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 1706 11/30/11 5:45 PM	Damian dropped so much on Patience. I really don't see how you can compare the two albums though. TEAM SOLO DOLO
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LuketheJediKnight		#115	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 1125 11/30/11 5:54 PM	Seymore CAKE wrote: Your opinion is your opinion, besides the fact that I found it hilarious I could give a @%#$ about it honestly. Likewise. Just wondering why you felt the need to single out my post inthis 6 page thread in the manner that you did. Last Edited By: LuketheJediKnight 11/30/11 5:56 PM. Edited 1 time.
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6 rings MJ		#116	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 8063 11/30/11 6:04 PM	Distant Relatives > Watch The Throne I am too positive to be doubful. Too optimistic to be fearful. And too determined to be defeated.
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PJ and Bompton		#117	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 6465 11/30/11 7:59 PM	I like Distant Relatives more overall, but tracks like NIP and Murder to Excellence are more my kinda music. @tylerdissidENT "Certain things in life, it's a long way gettin' there, but once you get there, it's just...it's just **** spectacular" - Eddie Vedder http://www.facebook.com/pages/dissidENT/288087186212?v=info - Promotion Company**
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ATGD7154xBBxMZ		#118	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 5149 11/30/11 8:47 PM	Still funny to see that these two albums were compared. The "just because it's dropping knowledge doesn't mean it's good music" is a correct statements but then I see these lines ppl are quoting in this thread because of the knowledge dropped and then realize what songs they're from Then I look at the song sillyputty provided which doesn't just drop knowledge but is a great song and I scratch my chin at these other posts. EDIT ILL LEGAL OPERATION wrote: In y'all's opinion, what are the best songs from WTT? ...DR? WTT - Murder To Excellence and Why I Love You. It's kind of surprising the lack of replay value this album has to me but after MBDTF I honestly shouldn't be that surprised DR - Only songs I didn't like that much were Dispear and Land of Promise. All the other songs I love. Don't even mind Nah Mean. In His Own Words, Patience, Africa Must Wake Up, and Friends are probably the best songs to me.
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gllahone84		#119	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 476 11/30/11 9:02 PM	Distant Relatives all day...what is there to discuss in terms of depth? The way Kayne raps on some of the tracks on WTT...smh.
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chokeonsmoke		#120	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 5035 11/30/11 9:51 PM	Yes
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