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12/27/11 4:21 PM
CelticsPride34 wrote: i don't like vegans that choose to be vegans...
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12/27/11 4:24 PM
Bombbiggidyphil wrote:CelticsPride34 wrote: i don't like vegans that choose to be vegans... what? I'm pretty sure all vegans choose to be vegans. I commend those that truly do it for ethical reasons and stick to it...not those that just want to be part of someting or feel special. Not many have the will to stick with it. Meth is right...they shouldn't have to sacrifice their ethics to accommodate you. There's plenty there to eat...meat isn't a necessity.
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12/27/11 4:31 PM
VeintiSiete wrote: Bombbiggidyphil wrote: CelticsPride34 wrote: i don't like vegans that choose to be vegans... what? I'm pretty sure all vegans choose to be vegans. I commend those that truly do it for ethical reasons and stick to it...not those that just want to be part of someting or feel special. Not many have the will to stick with it. Meth is right...they shouldn't have to sacrifice their ethics to accommodate you. There's plenty there to eat...meat isn't a necessity.why shouldnt the accomodation be reciprocated though? she chooses not to eat meat, just he chooses TO eat meat.
Bombbiggidyphil wrote: CelticsPride34 wrote: i don't like vegans that choose to be vegans... what? I'm pretty sure all vegans choose to be vegans. I commend those that truly do it for ethical reasons and stick to it...not those that just want to be part of someting or feel special. Not many have the will to stick with it. Meth is right...they shouldn't have to sacrifice their ethics to accommodate you. There's plenty there to eat...meat isn't a necessity.
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12/27/11 4:35 PM
FlipnKraut wrote:Just got back from xmas dinner at my friends house. Dude just got married and moved into the house, so it was like a congrats/housewarming/xmas dinner. Dude made some awesome ham/turkey for a thanksgiving potluck, so I was hyped driving up to his place. I get there and I see salad, tofu, and some green beans. I was like, Ok, but wheres the meat? So I walk up to him and ask him when he's going to bring out the ham/turkey. The wife is vegan and didnt want any meat in the house. I'm . These people came over to my place a while ago and his wife called to make sure there was stuff for her to eat, but they didnt have the common courtesy to do the same for all the non-vegetarians? This isn't the first time I've run into this. They expect you to comply to their dietary needs, but they wont do the same for anyone else. We have to deal with their bs at work too. We have to spend time and money (vegan options are not cheap) whenever we have some sort of food event. If there's not a vegan option, they flip out.
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12/27/11 4:37 PM
Method Man wrote:Imagine if you were lactose intolerant or if eating the flesh of cows and/or pigs went against your religious beliefs. Would it really be fair for a dinner guest to complain about what a jerk you are for not "having the common courtesy" to serve bacon cheeseburgers?Food preferences aren't the same as "dietary needs." If you go to a vegan restaurant, there's plenty of food there that you can eat. (And, if you're at all open minded, you'll probably find plenty that you'd actually like, too.) If a vegan goes to a steakhouse, however, there's a fair chance that they won't have anything to eat at all. If you go out of your way to provide a vegan option at any gatherings you host, that's great. It's very considerate of you and, without that accommodation, your vegetarian/vegan guests won't have anything to eat. The inverse, however, is not true. Someone shouldn't have to violate their ethical/cultural beliefs just because greens aren't your favorite food in the world. They had food you could eat, including a protein source. If you had a nut or gluten allergy, they almost certainly would've found a way to accommodate you, but why should they serve meat if, in your words, "the wife is vegan and didn't want any meat in the house?" Would you show up at somebody's Iftar or Passover Seder and expect pork chops?
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12/27/11 4:41 PM
Bean Pie Slanga wrote:FlipnKraut wrote:Just got back from xmas dinner at my friends house. Dude just got married and moved into the house, so it was like a congrats/housewarming/xmas dinner. Dude made some awesome ham/turkey for a thanksgiving potluck, so I was hyped driving up to his place. I get there and I see salad, tofu, and some green beans. I was like, Ok, but wheres the meat? So I walk up to him and ask him when he's going to bring out the ham/turkey. The wife is vegan and didnt want any meat in the house. I'm . These people came over to my place a while ago and his wife called to make sure there was stuff for her to eat, but they didnt have the common courtesy to do the same for all the non-vegetarians? This isn't the first time I've run into this. They expect you to comply to their dietary needs, but they wont do the same for anyone else. We have to deal with their bs at work too. We have to spend time and money (vegan options are not cheap) whenever we have some sort of food event. If there's not a vegan option, they flip out. I love being a vegan. My peoples.In seriousness though, she must be a noob and is going through that phase of entitlement. Most vegans I know are well prepared for these situations and have the courtesy to bring a dish they can eat and also share with others. As for not allowing meat in the house, that is pretty rough for the hubby. I don't have a problem with seeing raw meat, but some vegans can't handle it. It's just too real to see dead carcass before your eyes and also there's the contamination factor. I don't blame them for taking a stand in their house. They shouldn't host dinners though if they're not gonna compromise. Vegan nazis are the minority though. You probably know some vegans/vegetarians but just don't know it because they keep it to themselves. On the flipside, vegans still have to endure way more abuse from omnivores. How many times do meat eaters make fun of tofu, grass, rabbit food? If I showed up to a BBQ and told the cook to throw these veggie burgers on the corner grill, dude and everyone around him would make a scene. "Eat some meat!", "No tofu on MY grill!", "This is America!". It goes on and on. So I don't mind stories like this where a single veganazi raises havoc. It still doesn't offset the abuse from omnivores.
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SiMPLYDiMPLY wrote:i mean, vegans can't eat your food, but you can eat theirs. being a vegan is really difficult, i'm a vegetarian and it's difficult enough. try being a vegan for a week just to see how hard it is because of limited food options, and then maybe you'll understand them when they call to make sure they have something to eat
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yngSIMBA wrote:How is eating meat against someones "ethics" though? What are the ethical reasons for not eating meat? Does this same thing apple to organic/free-range/non-hormone fed animals?
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12/28/11 12:59 AM
NycPosite wrote:1. Her calling ahead to make sure she has food to eat at your party that is beyond tacky.
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