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Stop imposing your diet choices on me... vol. Vegans

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Bombbiggidyphil		#21	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 2569 12/27/11 4:21 PM	CelticsPride34 wrote: i don't like vegans that choose to be vegans... what? I'm pretty sure all vegans choose to be vegans. I commend those that truly do it for ethical reasons and stick to it...not those that just want to be part of someting or feel special. Not many have the will to stick with it. Meth is right...they shouldn't have to sacrifice their ethics to accommodate you. There's plenty there to eat...meat isn't a necessity. TEAM MARVEL - GREY HULK They call me Mr. Fixit.
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VeintiSiete		#22	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 416 12/27/11 4:24 PM	Bombbiggidyphil wrote: CelticsPride34 wrote: i don't like vegans that choose to be vegans... what? I'm pretty sure all vegans choose to be vegans. I commend those that truly do it for ethical reasons and stick to it...not those that just want to be part of someting or feel special. Not many have the will to stick with it. Meth is right...they shouldn't have to sacrifice their ethics to accommodate you. There's plenty there to eat...meat isn't a necessity. why shouldnt the accomodation be reciprocated though? she chooses not to eat meat, just like he chooses TO eat meat. -Sigo C.L.U.B. Last Edited By: VeintiSiete 12/27/11 4:35 PM. Edited 1 time.
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Bombbiggidyphil		#23	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 2570 12/27/11 4:31 PM	VeintiSiete wrote: Bombbiggidyphil wrote: CelticsPride34 wrote: i don't like vegans that choose to be vegans... what? I'm pretty sure all vegans choose to be vegans. I commend those that truly do it for ethical reasons and stick to it...not those that just want to be part of someting or feel special. Not many have the will to stick with it. Meth is right...they shouldn't have to sacrifice their ethics to accommodate you. There's plenty there to eat...meat isn't a necessity. why shouldnt the accomodation be reciprocated though? she chooses not to eat meat, just he chooses TO eat meat. If she accomodates him then she goes against her ethics/beliefs. If he accomodates her, nothing is sacrificied...his ethics don't concern soy or tofu. He can eat all and any of the vegan food...she can eat none of the food consisiting of meat/animal products. TEAM MARVEL - GREY HULK They call me Mr. Fixit.
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Bean Pie Slanga		#24	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 1751 12/27/11 4:35 PM	FlipnKraut wrote: Just got back from xmas dinner at my friends house. Dude just got married and moved into the house, so it was like a congrats/housewarming/xmas dinner. Dude made some awesome ham/turkey for a thanksgiving potluck, so I was hyped driving up to his place. I get there and I see salad, tofu, and some green beans. I was like, Ok, but wheres the meat? So I walk up to him and ask him when he's going to bring out the ham/turkey. The wife is vegan and didnt want any meat in the house. I'm . These people came over to my place a while ago and his wife called to make sure there was stuff for her to eat, but they didnt have the common courtesy to do the same for all the non-vegetarians? This isn't the first time I've run into this. They expect you to comply to their dietary needs, but they wont do the same for anyone else. We have to deal with their bs at work too. We have to spend time and money (vegan options are not cheap) whenever we have some sort of food event. If there's not a vegan option, they flip out. I love being a vegan. My peoples. In seriousness though, she must be a noob and is going through that phase of entitlement. Most vegans I know are well prepared for these situations and have the courtesy to bring a dish they can eat and also share with others. As for not allowing meat in the house, that is pretty rough for the hubby. I don't have a problem with seeing raw meat, but some vegans can't handle it. It's just too real to see dead carcass before your eyes and also there's the contamination factor. I don't blame them for taking a stand in their house. They shouldn't host dinners though if they're not gonna compromise. Vegan nazis are the minority though. You probably know some vegans/vegetarians but just don't know it because they keep it to themselves. On the flipside, vegans still have to endure way more abuse from omnivores. How many times do meat eaters make fun of tofu, grass, rabbit food? If I showed up to a BBQ and told the cook to throw these veggie burgers on the corner grill, dude and everyone around him would make a scene. "Eat some meat!", "No tofu on MY grill!", "This is America!". It goes on and on. So I don't mind stories like this where a single veganazi raises havoc. It still doesn't offset the abuse from omnivores.
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FlipnKraut		#25	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 412 12/27/11 4:37 PM	Method Man wrote: Imagine if you were lactose intolerant or if eating the flesh of cows and/or pigs went against your religious beliefs. Would it really be fair for a dinner guest to complain about what a jerk you are for not "having the common courtesy" to serve bacon cheeseburgers? Food preferences aren't the same as "dietary needs." If you go to a vegan restaurant, there's plenty of food there that you can eat. (And, if you're at all open minded, you'll probably find plenty that you'd actually like, too.) If a vegan goes to a steakhouse, however, there's a fair chance that they won't have anything to eat at all. If you go out of your way to provide a vegan option at any gatherings you host, that's great. It's very considerate of you and, without that accommodation, your vegetarian/vegan guests won't have anything to eat. The inverse, however, is not true. Someone shouldn't have to violate their ethical/cultural beliefs just because greens aren't your favorite food in the world. They had food you could eat, including a protein source. If you had a nut or gluten allergy, they almost certainly would've found a way to accommodate you, but why should they serve meat if, in your words, "the wife is vegan and didn't want any meat in the house?" Would you show up at somebody's Iftar or Passover Seder and expect pork chops? If I go to a Vegan restaurant, yes theres stuff I could eat, but I'm not going to a Vegan restaurant, I'm going to a friends house. There's a level of expectation set when the wife demanded that I have food available for her to eat based on her preferences. My food preference is to eat meat. I would have been less upset if; they would have told me beforehand (they know my food preferences, which is what prompted the call to me about my party) both of them were vegan (still though you should have something for non vegan/vegetarians) the wife didn't demand I comply to her food preferences at an earlier party of mine And are you really trying to tell me if you were throwing a bbq, and you were lactose intolerant, you wouldn't provide cheese for the burgers? Last Edited By: FlipnKraut 12/27/11 4:50 PM. Edited 1 time.
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rck2sactown		#26	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 11009 12/27/11 4:41 PM	Bean Pie Slanga wrote: FlipnKraut wrote: Just got back from xmas dinner at my friends house. Dude just got married and moved into the house, so it was like a congrats/housewarming/xmas dinner. Dude made some awesome ham/turkey for a thanksgiving potluck, so I was hyped driving up to his place. I get there and I see salad, tofu, and some green beans. I was like, Ok, but wheres the meat? So I walk up to him and ask him when he's going to bring out the ham/turkey. The wife is vegan and didnt want any meat in the house. I'm . These people came over to my place a while ago and his wife called to make sure there was stuff for her to eat, but they didnt have the common courtesy to do the same for all the non-vegetarians? This isn't the first time I've run into this. They expect you to comply to their dietary needs, but they wont do the same for anyone else. We have to deal with their bs at work too. We have to spend time and money (vegan options are not cheap) whenever we have some sort of food event. If there's not a vegan option, they flip out. I love being a vegan. My peoples. In seriousness though, she must be a noob and is going through that phase of entitlement. Most vegans I know are well prepared for these situations and have the courtesy to bring a dish they can eat and also share with others. As for not allowing meat in the house, that is pretty rough for the hubby. I don't have a problem with seeing raw meat, but some vegans can't handle it. It's just too real to see dead carcass before your eyes and also there's the contamination factor. I don't blame them for taking a stand in their house. They shouldn't host dinners though if they're not gonna compromise. Vegan nazis are the minority though. You probably know some vegans/vegetarians but just don't know it because they keep it to themselves. On the flipside, vegans still have to endure way more abuse from omnivores. How many times do meat eaters make fun of tofu, grass, rabbit food? If I showed up to a BBQ and told the cook to throw these veggie burgers on the corner grill, dude and everyone around him would make a scene. "Eat some meat!", "No tofu on MY grill!", "This is America!". It goes on and on. So I don't mind stories like this where a single veganazi raises havoc. It still doesn't offset the abuse from omnivores. Good insight here.... All my vegan friends still rub me the wrong way though SACRAMENTO KINGS Here They Stayed Team Fitness...TEAM Nine1Six>>>S. Placer to be exact<<< team BRIAN CARDINAL/Chase-Budinger
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FlipnKraut		#27	[url]	[-]
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jshortt		#28	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 3034 12/27/11 4:49 PM	A lot of people seem to be missing the fact that OP said this very same friend brought ham/turkey to Thanksgiving dinner. Why on earth should OP not expect this guy to serve meat at Christmas when he just did it 1 month earlier? Peace, J Check Out My Auctions for Jordans & SB's!!
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NycPosite		#29	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 1619 12/27/11 10:58 PM	. I would have sat down like :l. I have no problem with vegans or the food they eat (some are really good). The points that make no sense to me are 1. Her calling ahead to make sure she has food to eat at your party that is beyond tacky. She should have just eat before she came. Also if the host is a friend he would already known she is vegan and made something for. I don't eat any red meat. If it a dinner any of my close friends are throwing they make sure something is available. If not I just won't eat. It's not a big deal 2. How did dude really bring ham and turkey to a potluck with hie wife. All in all you should have just tried what she made. You might have liked it Just now you know to never go over there hungry -posting from iPad FT-DS KOBE VII CHEETAH SZ 12 *LOOKING FOR KOBE VII CLOAKS, CHEETAH OR KD IV WEATHERMAN, YOTD SZ 14 PLEASE PM ME WITH OFFERS OR TRADES Last Edited By: NycPosite 12/27/11 11:00 PM. Edited 1 time.
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yngSIMBA.sneakershoebox		#30	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 740 12/27/11 11:20 PM	How is eating meat against someones "ethics" though? What are the ethical reasons for not eating meat? Does this same thing apple to organic/free-range/non-hormone fed animals?
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SiMPLYDiMPLY		#31	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 3303 12/27/11 11:26 PM	i mean, vegans can't eat your food, but you can eat theirs. being a vegan is really difficult, i'm a vegetarian and it's difficult enough. try being a vegan for a week just to see how hard it is because of limited food options, and then maybe you'll understand them when they call to make sure they have something to eat yo SiMPLYfollow me flow, put poetry inside a crackpot and blow.
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dmbrhs		#32	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 10762 12/27/11 11:29 PM	It is very inconsiderate to invite people over for dinner and not give a heads up if a specific dietary meal is the only option. Based on the odds (how many people are vegans compared to omnivores?) you should know better as a host to assume your guests will enjoy it. And honestly, whenever I've hosted a meal (or any of my friends), the person who wants the vegan or vegetarian option BRINGS THEIR OWN. I will provide space to prepare it, but you're on your own to buy it and make it. If I host a BBQ, I'm providing hamburgers. If you want weird things like turkey burgers, tofu burgers, etc. you bring it yourself.
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dmbrhs		#33	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 10763 12/27/11 11:38 PM	SiMPLYDiMPLY wrote: i mean, vegans can't eat your food, but you can eat theirs. being a vegan is really difficult, i'm a vegetarian and it's difficult enough. try being a vegan for a week just to see how hard it is because of limited food options, and then maybe you'll understand them when they call to make sure they have something to eat But it's not on the HOST to provide the vegan option (or even vegetarian). If I'm cooking for 8, I'm not making something else for ONE person. One way to get around the issue is invite the vegan/vegetarian to provide a salad, and if they want to have their own personal entree, they can bring that too (which they can prepare for themselves). That way the salad, which is the easiest to satisfy for everyone, is taken care of. Problem solved.
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Scientific Method		#34	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 440 12/27/11 11:48 PM	How is that anywhere near fair or logical? When she comes to an event, she wants to make sure there is an option for her diet preference, and her man bought meat to a potluck just a month prior? OP looked out for her. But when she has an event, she can't be expected to do the same? Irrelevant comparisons to religion be damned, that is just a selfish move on her part. Yes, omnivores can eat tofu and beans and %$%* but on the same token she can eat meat too, obviously it is not her preference too similar to not being OP's preference to eat veggie burgers. Knowing that, OP made an effort to make sure she was accommodated. She hosts an event now, and refuses to do the same.
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mieraviking		#35	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 483 12/27/11 11:51 PM	i eat vegans These cats drink champagne and toast to death and pain Like slaves on a ship talking about who got the flyest chain
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rashi		#36	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 2246 12/27/11 11:51 PM	yngSIMBA wrote: How is eating meat against someones "ethics" though? What are the ethical reasons for not eating meat? Does this same thing apple to organic/free-range/non-hormone fed animals? The vegans I know don't eat meat because they are against the treatment of animals. I only eat organic foods, raw milk cheese, and grass fed beef, bison, pork, and chicken because I'm against the poisons that commercialized farmers put in their product. Giancarlo Cruz Mike Stanton > ________
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Jehul		#37	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 4761 12/28/11 12:59 AM	NycPosite wrote: 1. Her calling ahead to make sure she has food to eat at your party that is beyond tacky. This. Smh at people calling in dining preferences like they ordering pick-up. I woulda hit her with that "I don't need you; let welfare feed you" *Quote:* "Dudes jihaded the whip." "Smart, real men know not to put hands on a woman, really smart women know to keep their hands to themselves." NTers: Impossible to impress
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ElCatfisho		#38	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 1257 12/28/11 1:10 AM	my friend Nyan grew up vegetarian because I guess that's how his Indian family eats, and he did not mind getting the rest of us pizza with meat or burritos with meat. It all goes down to the person. I think people who care too much about their beliefs should not care too much to the point that other people can't enjoy their beliefs. In this case, believing in eating meat. Meat should have been there. And it's not a matter of how easy it is to get a vegan dish together vs. a turkey dinner. That shouldn't make any difference, food options should be kept open for everyone.
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GRyPR33		#39	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 1361 12/28/11 3:28 AM	You know what the real problem is? Your friend. He knew what she was doing and let her do it. The entire world revolves around the fact that animals eat other animals The bottom line is they invited people over for Christmas dinner....people she knew didn't share her beliefs. She knew her guests would be expecting a meal that included some kind of meat and she failed to provide that. She's a +*+@$+ host, and I bet people will remember it next year when they get that invite. OP, you did a nice thing accommodating her "needs", but she's inconsiderate and pushy so next time screw her. Where'd the diamond on her finger come from? Think she cared to check? Ethics my left cheek... I'll be damned if one of my sisters ever becomes vegan and decides to host a vegan Christmas "dinner" PSN: GregC33 Team "48÷2(9+3) = 2" Last Edited By: GRyPR33 12/28/11 3:39 AM. Edited 2 times.
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SneakerHeathen		#40	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 5301 12/28/11 3:34 AM	Method Man wrote: Imagine if you were lactose intolerant or if eating the flesh of cows and/or pigs went against your religious beliefs. Would it really be fair for a dinner guest to complain about what a jerk you are for not "having the common courtesy" to serve bacon cheeseburgers? Food preferences aren't the same as "dietary needs." If you go to a vegan restaurant, there's plenty of food there that you can eat. (And, if you're at all open minded, you'll probably find plenty that you'd actually like, too.) If a vegan goes to a steakhouse, however, there's a fair chance that they won't have anything to eat at all. If you go out of your way to provide a vegan option at any gatherings you host, that's great. It's very considerate of you and, without that accommodation, your vegetarian/vegan guests won't have anything to eat. The inverse, however, is not true. Someone shouldn't have to violate their ethical/cultural beliefs just because greens aren't your favorite food in the world. They had food you could eat, including a protein source. If you had a nut or gluten allergy, they almost certainly would've found a way to accommodate you, but why should they serve meat if, in your words, "the wife is vegan and didn't want any meat in the house?" Would you show up at somebody's Iftar or Passover Seder and expect pork chops? kudos, Meth... Glad to see an NTer that doesn't live in a cave. I swear some of ya'll need some cultural refinement. Where I grew up about 50% of my dudes were Dominican or Boricua (my other dudes were Asian/Desi or West Indian). I myself am desi. Anyways, these cats HATED coming over to my crib to eat. They'd be going through my fridge looking for some sort of pork, and to make matters worse most of them didn't know what meats are pork and what meats aren't (for example, how do you NOT know ribs are made from pork, even simple meats like pepperoni). Carnivores. ignant %!% carnivores. Last Edited By: SneakerHeathen 12/28/11 3:42 AM. Edited 1 time.
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