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Source: Yankees trade Montero to Mariners for Pineda

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onewearz		#41	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 10258 01/14/12 1:17 AM	Team Yankees
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LESGodSonC0		#42	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 8225 01/14/12 1:46 AM	^ Dudes don't waste no time. T E A M N E W Y O R K K N I C K S NEW YORK GIANTS
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venom lyrix		#43	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 9756 01/14/12 2:35 AM	This is a great trade for the Yankees, fans of New York who don't like this trade don't understand the dynamics. The name Jesus Montero is what everyone was infatuated with, it's been drilled into New York Yankees fans heads for years now, he is like the lochnes monster, the mythical story, but the results just haven't been there yet. Given, there was a small sample size, but it's the aura. The other key with Montero is that he just isn't a catcher for the Yankees, he wasn't projected to be a successful one anymore. He is being regarded now as a possible catcher, but more likely a DH and 1st baseman, kinda like Jason Giambi. The fact that on the Yankees he didn't have a position was a big factor in this trade in my opinion. The Yankees currently have a ton of old bodies that will need to filtered in and out of the DH spot for half days of rest. Guys like Jeter, Tex, AROD, etc. With Montero unable to be a fulltime catcher for 9 innings, once he is in the DH hole he cripples Girardi's ability to manage. AROD is forced to either sit out of play 3rd, and so on. He is projected to have a great bat, opposite power, but it's easier to find a solid bat then it is an anchor for a pitching staff, like Pineda is projected to be. With Pineda the Yankees have a young core of Nova, Pineda, Banuelos, Betances, Hughes and more in the system. Add now CC, Kuroda, Garcia, (and AJ although he may get dealt, doubtful though) This deal is a homerun for the Yankees, and once the casual fans who haven't seen Pineda see how electric his stuff is they will come around. Welcome to the Bronx Michael Pineda. The City That Never Sleeps GIANTS YANKEES REDSTORM Theater of the Mind
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grusumm18		#44	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 937 01/14/12 3:26 AM	actually, they understand that pine's fb doesnt move and up to this point in his career, hes a flyball pitcher that worked great in safeco...not so much in ur ll park that being said, he's a solid 2 with 1 potential i think its good for both squads, esp as montero is positionless
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Proshares		#45	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 17241 01/14/12 8:31 AM	grusumm18 wrote: actually, they understand that pine's fb doesnt move and up to this point in his career, hes a flyball pitcher that worked great in safeco...not so much in ur ll park Yes, the one year that he has in his career he's been a flyball pitcher. Next year will be a sort of a reality check to during the first half of the season but he's 22, he'll adjust. His FB does need a touch of work but his FB lcoation and secondary pitches are that good. This is a kid who at 22 had a top 5 swing & miss percentage in MLB. He has an incredible command of the strike zone Nova won't be #2 or #3 on this staff he's a decent pitcher but if the kid pitches like a #4 count your blessings. PSN - Bigbobbs87 Last Edited By: Proshares 01/14/12 8:38 AM. Edited 1 time.
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The Wizard		#46	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 5593 01/14/12 8:46 AM	Love this move. Even if Pineda pitches at a 4 level ERA, it's an upgrade for the Yankees. I was young, I was surviving the times. Waiting for my moment, I was destined to shine....
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Hazat50		#47	[url]	[-]
Registered User Posts: 132 01/14/12 10:07 AM	Seems like a fairly equal trade, Yanks get a young pitcher something they really need since they are getting old and the Mariners who are the worst offensive team get a young bat with a lot of potential.
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roboski		#48	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 903 01/14/12 10:38 AM	I would like this trade if i actually seen Pineda pitch. With Posada retiring i was hoping the Yanks would work Montero into some starting catcher duties here and there. His bat i think is going to be very much missed, Montero has the potential to be a Buster Posey type of catcher. TeamYankees NEW YORK GIANTS MIAMI HEAT UM ALUMNI
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sircharles2ol3		#49	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 3375 01/14/12 10:47 AM	We'll see how this plays out.. but Montergod gave us some great games last year.. he will be missed. Jet Life TeamYankees Broadway Blueshirts T E A M N E W Y O R K K N I C K S #58
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Proshares		#50	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 17243 01/14/12 10:55 AM	He definitely did not man Montero was awful at catching. He couldn't receive pitches to save his life and he couldn't get the ball out of his glove. It'd be the same as what we watched happen to Knoblauch. At least the two kids in the minors get another year to develop and attempt to get better at catching. Montero has no position. PSN - Bigbobbs87
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bkmac		#51	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 10922 01/14/12 12:39 PM	The fact that we have a busy-looking rotation now, and last year that was the issue, shows how well Cashman is at his job. He knew it would take Montero in any sensible trade this off-season, and he pulled the trigger and landed Pineda. Sure, I would have loved to have seen Montero rake at the Stadium, but I much rather see Pineda #2-it-up for our rotation. Martin/Romine for C this season, fine with me. TeamYankees & NEW YORK JETS
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Proshares		#52	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 17249 01/14/12 12:47 PM	I'd like to see them place him at #4 for right now. Protect him a bit to start the year behind Kuroda & Nova. PSN - Bigbobbs87
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Air 23 AJ		#53	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 735 01/14/12 1:36 PM	651akathePaul wrote: I don't know why everyone instantly thinks this is a lose for the M's. Hard to see him go, but the Mariners are stacked at pitcher on the farm and they desperately, DESPERATELY need a big time bat. Felix Hernandez is only 25 and they have some studs to bring up yet. I think both teams won. That might change, but right now it's fine. but Felix is getting paid right now over 19-20 million per year. I don't know the M's financials but thats a lot for 1 player even if he's that good. Yankees definitely won they got a stud in the making and Montero can't even play catcher maybe not even 1st base he's a full time DH so M's lost.
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I FR3SH I		#54	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 3544 01/14/12 1:45 PM	Im done with the Mariners. Im sick of them giving away players. I no longer have a baseball team
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CoupeIt88		#55	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 763 01/14/12 1:55 PM	Not thrilled about this. I loved Jesus, been keeping up with his since 2008. Always believed he had serious potential. Don't know anything about Pineda T E A M N E W Y O R K K N I C K S They Call Me *Tru, Follow Me
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Mr Cashfl0w		#56	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 311 01/14/12 2:03 PM	Hope they get rid of Burnett so Hughes can stick around
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651akathePaul		#57	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 10438 01/14/12 3:45 PM	Nobody won yet. Everything is on paper at this point. And all that I know right now is Felix is, year in and year out, a Cy Young caliber pitcher. He's proven and he's great. Pineda still has a lot to prove and a lot of growing to do. You like where it's headed, but a blown arm or psyche can sour this trade in a hurry. It's a win win for both teams looking at this trade on paper. Both bolstered a weakness for what should be the foreseeable future. The only gripe that can be made was what has been brought up already about the M's having the ability to keep Pineda and still get Montero by giving up Lee. But hey, If Smoak, Montero, and Ackley all reach their potential then you're looking at a competitive team each and every year. Let it play out dudes. VIKINGS - TIMBERWOLVES - TWINS - MARINERS - HUSKIES
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sircharles2ol3		#58	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 3377 01/14/12 4:03 PM	Proshares wrote: He definitely did not man Montero was awful at catching. He couldn't receive pitches to save his life and he couldn't get the ball out of his glove. I meant with his bat though.. We know about his lack of skills behind the plate.. But he clearly showed he's ready to hit at the bigs level. I'm content with the trade though.. Although our lineup is getting a bit older, when they are playing hot they still put numbers on the board with ease. Starting pitching is where we needed help this off season, and finally Cashman made a move. The market seemed pretty weak this year, but i'm glad Cashman had the patience to pull off a deal like this. But like I stated before, we have to wait and see. You never know it's gonna work out when pitchers come to NY. Jet Life TeamYankees Broadway Blueshirts T E A M N E W Y O R K K N I C K S #58
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Lebronh8er		#59	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 268 01/17/12 3:01 PM	I really don't get this trade, I thought that Montero was untouchable? I hope they know what they are doing, well, not really, I am a Rays fan
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