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The NY Times Made Ninjahood's Argument for Him (Since We Disagree With "His Point")

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Dagrandesoda		#241	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 261 01/15/12 1:01 AM	This truely all stems from lack of knowledge of word. People don't know what word means. Its all good I guess. Racist soceity loves when ppl of minoirty fight amoung dem sleves. Why you think jim crow worked and still works to this day? A MOGUL'S SON, A DR OF MARTIN'S LUKE, AND BEST OF ALL A CHAMPON. GREATNESS LIES IN ALL OF US.
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babycakes		#242	[url]	[-]
Registered User Posts: 55 01/15/12 1:07 AM	sn00pee wrote: babycakes wrote: Tired of this same argument always. My parents are from the dominican republic. My dad is dark and looks african american but my mom is very light and has european features. My sister came out more "spanish" looking than me and it irritates me that when my mom side of the family says that theyre dominican this type of argument doesnt come up but when someone from my dads side says their dominican its always "oh yea ur just black" to me it just seems like people are really basing this argument on the color of the skin alone which is stupid. Oh and one time this puerto rican chick asked me where im from because of my accent and i told her i was born here but my parents are from DR and she just looked at me all serious like "really?? Why are so tanned?!" i couldnt believe this still happens in 2012 Anywho.. yes i know there is black in us but so what? I say im american not black because thats where i was born. when they say theyre dominican theyre just stating their nationality and their culture so i dont see why we keep having the same argument. you see, black is not a location. You cant say I came from black. people are CONSTANTLY mistaking race for nationality (i.e. Ninjahood). Black only refers to the COLOR of you're skin. So when you say you're not black but American, its like...WHAT? WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN? Thats what im saying. If someone says they are dominican and someone else comes along and says "no your black you're just in denial blah blah" like that makes no sense cuz the person was talking about their nationality. I was using the example of me saying im american and not saying im black cuz im stating my nationality not my race
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sn00pee		#243	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 2486 01/15/12 2:17 AM	babycakes wrote: sn00pee wrote: babycakes wrote: Tired of this same argument always. My parents are from the dominican republic. My dad is dark and looks african american but my mom is very light and has european features. My sister came out more "spanish" looking than me and it irritates me that when my mom side of the family says that theyre dominican this type of argument doesnt come up but when someone from my dads side says their dominican its always "oh yea ur just black" to me it just seems like people are really basing this argument on the color of the skin alone which is stupid. Oh and one time this puerto rican chick asked me where im from because of my accent and i told her i was born here but my parents are from DR and she just looked at me all serious like "really?? Why are so tanned?!" i couldnt believe this still happens in 2012 Anywho.. yes i know there is black in us but so what? I say im american not black because thats where i was born. when they say theyre dominican theyre just stating their nationality and their culture so i dont see why we keep having the same argument. you see, black is not a location. You cant say I came from black. people are CONSTANTLY mistaking race for nationality (i.e. Ninjahood). Black only refers to the COLOR of you're skin. So when you say you're not black but American, its like...WHAT? WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN? Thats what im saying. If someone says they are dominican and someone else comes along and says "no your black you're just in denial blah blah" like that makes no sense cuz the person was talking about their nationality. I was using the example of me saying im american and not saying im black cuz im stating my nationality not my race Yes but no one said that they are NOT DR. Or NOT AMERICAN. But some people go out their way to say "NO IM NOT BLACK IM _________." Once those "IM NOT BLACK" words creep out your mouth its like . its ok to associate more with your ethnic background, I know that feel. but instead of say "im not black", one should say "yea im a black _______", I guess even mixed is acceptable. But dudes are flat out denying their blackness. （'・ω・）つ（・（・ Joe Cool www.yourenotsmashing.com
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enlightenedespot		#244	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 3178 01/15/12 4:41 AM	sillyputty wrote: GrimlocK wrote: I agree with where Ninja has been coming from...the black NT'ers are all upset that dominicans don't identify themselves as being black...sure they may have hailed from Africa back in yesteryear but enough time has passed to where they can't identify themselves as being black anymore. Same thing I feel with indian west-indians like myself. We hailed from India so long ago that we really can't be considered Indians anymore. In fact I really don't think Indians living in India even know about Guyana or Trinidad like that. Black NT'ers need to get over it already. As far as i'm concerned being an nyc'er and not of either black or latin heritage...I really don't see Dominicans as being black anymore...they might look it but I believe culture is what you should really identify with over color. I don't have a problem with Dominicans being..."Dominican" Labels change over time. The Jews of the supposed bible, aren't the white Ashkenazi/Germanic jews you typically think of today for example (this is a can of worms, too) But I do have a slight issue with people ignoring their history. Its one thing to want to identify yourself presently, but don't front like you have NO black connection and hate on and distance yourself from people who have more african features and identity than you do. They're all in the same pot but they wanna act like they're just "visiting" instead of "living" there, if I can make a metaphor of sorts. Lol, did you notice? Grimlock called his own damn self Indian. Although, an Indian west Indian but Indian indeed. Thanks Grim. And I do agree that your culture is ever different from Indians but your race? What race are you? There are Black trini and guayanese people and Indian trini and Guyanese people who share the same culture. But are of the same race? Don't think so. We're speaking race here gentlemen. The guy that said race doesn't matter, that latino is latino... Its funny because if you saw me and heard me speak, Latino would be the last thing that came to your mind. Team DC/MD/VA Team Black & Mild Team History
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enlightenedespot		#245	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 3179 01/15/12 5:18 AM	ThunderChunk69 wrote: And yes, grudgingly, Ninja has admitted to having African roots. Took about 10 threads but even him saying that is beyond the point. edit: I'm just saying make a thread about Jamaicans "denying their blackness" and see how successful it is Speaking of tip toeing, you conveniently bolded the only thing in my post that we agreed with. That post was actually directed at you specifically, contesting the prior statements that you made. I feel let down. I do believe it has everything to do with probably being ashamed or distancing themselves from a part of their history but if people like Dominican's and other races who don't adopt a liking to be grouped in with other Africans then it's more African heritage for the rest of you...go on take it...be proud. But why do they do it? You and I both know why and the reason behind it is whats disheartening. Futhermore, hiding under a guise of ethnicity when asked of your racial make up is a slap in the face to other black people that don't have that luxury or fail to see why someone of their own group whether mixed or not would want to distance themselves. Snoopee, Black isn't a color. You know that there are Black folk from the motherland that aren't mixed but are soo light that they look transparent. Team DC/MD/VA Team Black & Mild Team History
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WaitWut		#246	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 583 01/15/12 9:08 AM	i totally slept on this thread but from what i gathered you guys are saying africans aint black is this real life? dudes trying that hard to not be labeled black Last Edited By: WaitWut 01/15/12 9:11 AM. Edited 2 times.
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Snapple Apple		#247	[url]	[-]
Registered User Posts: 92 01/15/12 9:59 AM	Race is a social construct. It relies mainly on the color of your skin and other physical attributes. We tend to see Mariah Carey (a mixed woman) as white while viewing Barack Obama as black. This is due to their physical appearance. Technically, Ninjahood is a Black Dominican. I say people stop getting so upset about these man made social constructs used to divide and control people. As more and more people engage in interracial relationships, more people will be born that defy racial categories. I think America needs to re-invent the race wheel to include a broader makeup of people. Not everything is simply black or white anymore....and it really has never been (except to those Europeans).
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KayGeeDaGr8		#248	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 1519 01/15/12 10:06 AM	I feel that alot of people in the US especially LATINOS from EL Salvador Mexico etc.. assimilate like no other!!! I am dominican and first generation at that and I feel that its time that WE embrace our roots. If you speak spanish say that you are Hispanic, Latino whatever. Not turn the other cheek. HEAT MARLINS BUCCANEERS KaY-GeE
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AntonLaVey		#249	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 19123 01/15/12 10:39 AM	I'm not a human being, I'm an earthling yo that's a different culture TEAM METALHEADS TEAM NIGERIA "This God that I worship, this demon I blame. Conspiring as one, it's exactly the same, it's exactly the same."
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Ruxxx		#250	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 7766 01/15/12 11:22 AM	AntonLaVey wrote: I'm not a human being, I'm an earthling yo that's a different culture
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jomitm		#251	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 8400 01/15/12 12:17 PM	Snapple Apple wrote: Race is a social construct. It relies mainly on the color of your skin and other physical attributes. We tend to see Mariah Carey (a mixed woman) as white while viewing Barack Obama as black. This is due to their physical appearance. Technically, Ninjahood is a Black Dominican. I say people stop getting so upset about these man made social constructs used to divide and control people. As more and more people engage in interracial relationships, more people will be born that defy racial categories. I think America needs to re-invent the race wheel to include a broader makeup of people. Not everything is simply black or white anymore....and it really has never been (except to those Europeans). This. @TheBadPrince SPEAK VOLUMES BEFORE YOU SAY A WORD
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AKA LONGSTROKE		#252	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 286 01/15/12 12:27 PM	MonStar1 wrote: AKA LONGSTROKE wrote: MonStar1 wrote: You gotta be joking right? You are so hyped up you won't realize that same example you used was similar to mine. I've BEEN admitted to people of the same color having racist attitudes. My whole point is EXACTLY what you said at the end. The "whites only" sign is going apply to them too correct? So my question is WHY are you so pressed to make a West Indian person say "I'm black" if they don't want to? Who is it hurting? They just sound dumb if they don't believe it and will find out sooner or later if they live in the real world. And you STILL haven't given me an example in the real world of a person being "black" only when its convenient. So stop posting Ali pics and trying to be "beat" somebody and actually listen and have a conversation. That's the problem with alot of NTers ya'll wanna battle instead of talk then start putting words in peoples mouths. Perhaps if you tried reading without your eyes closed, you may have seen it. Here's what you may have missed, red mpls wrote: AKA LONGSTROKE wrote: I have no problem admitting that I have seen the Whites only signs in the south, then encountering many West Indians who'll suggest that they are not Black, as they see being Black as being a part of a doomed culture. I understand their position, but also telling them that if it were NOT for Black American culture, they would be subject to those White Only signs as well. It's the same with Dominicans and other Latins as well. You don't have a problem with tossing around the *N Word,* slinging it as if you own it, being Black when it is cool, when it isconvenient. However, when the time comes for you to stand up against bigotry, even that that is within your own culture, you emphatically state that it does not exist. How quaint. For example, Ninjahood has a SN that contains a colloquialism for the "n-word" while he rejects his Blackness and African heritage with near-totality. Wow He understood it, so what happened to you? Are you being *smart* when it's convenient? That's not going to get you too far in the real world, buddy.
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Scientific Method		#253	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 570 01/15/12 1:14 PM	NH thinks Dominicans are some type of advanced, or improved black people. I still remember his, "we got all of black men's strengths and none of their weaknesses" comment, or the constant comparison of 1 over the other like, "they told me not to wear my hair like this because it was too black," or the hilarious women thread comments about how Heights Domincan girls are better because they are easier and wear cheaper clothes and take less time to get ready. Super Producer straight owned him in that thread. It is beating a dead horse though
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The Natural Mystic		#254	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 2858 01/15/12 1:21 PM	Scientific Method wrote: NH thinks Dominicans are some type of advanced, or improved black people. I still remember his, "we got all of black men's strengths and none of their weaknesses" comment, or the constant comparison of 1 over the other like, "they told me not to wear my hair like this because it was too black," or the hilarious women thread comments about how Heights Domincan girls are better because they are easier and wear cheaper clothes and take less time to get ready. Super Producer straight owned him in that thread. It is beating a dead horse though wait, homie really said that?
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Scientific Method		#255	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 572 01/15/12 1:25 PM	It was in a thread a LONG time ago. I doubt I could find it. It was this NTer who used to always chastize him on this vary topic who either doesn't post anymore or more likely has another screen name now
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sillyputty		#256	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 2772 01/15/12 1:38 PM	Scientific Method wrote: NH thinks Dominicans are some type of advanced, or improved black people. I still remember his, "we got all of black men's strengths and none of their weaknesses" comment, or the constant comparison of 1 over the other like, "they told me not to wear my hair like this because it was too black," or the hilarious women thread comments about how Heights Domincan girls are better because they are easier and wear cheaper clothes and take less time to get ready. Super Producer straight owned him in that thread. It is beating a dead horse though I'm not going to even lie, but I remember reading this. I can't find it for the life of me though. "Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY." --Herman Goering at the Nuremberg Trials
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Scientific Method		#257	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 573 01/15/12 2:07 PM	Yea so many threads devolve into attacks on him you don't even know what to search. I have no reason to lie though.
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Dagrandesoda		#258	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 270 01/15/12 2:16 PM	sillyputty wrote: Scientific Method wrote: NH thinks Dominicans are some type of advanced, or improved black people. I still remember his, "we got all of black men's strengths and none of their weaknesses" comment, or the constant comparison of 1 over the other like, "they told me not to wear my hair like this because it was too black," or the hilarious women thread comments about how Heights Domincan girls are better because they are easier and wear cheaper clothes and take less time to get ready. Super Producer straight owned him in that thread. It is beating a dead horse though I'm not going to even lie, but I remember reading this. I can't find it for the life of me though. He basically takes being black when its convenient to him. Dominican girls love black dudes so all that means nothing. If he was tryna be real he'd just admit hes afro dominican. I don't date dudes so ninja can be waht he wants. Dominican chicks know they part african and they embrace being with REAL african dudes. They love black men cause they represent what they are. NH clearly has never left da heights except to go to DR. As a result, he doesn't think much and its not his fault. No point of trying to convince somebody of what they truely are, when they won't accept it. Its just self hate he has. A MOGUL'S SON, A DR OF MARTIN'S LUKE, AND BEST OF ALL A CHAMPON. GREATNESS LIES IN ALL OF US.
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ninjahood		#259	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 29122 01/15/12 2:48 PM	So we puttin words in my mouth now? Im hispanic, end of da day, I have zero connection to w/e african roots you Claim "I'm denyin"...only thing we have in commom is da American culture We all share as a medium. Once I step out this website, I speak fluent spanish To my moms who was born in DR. I told cats a million times that hispanic blood Is tri-racial in general, so I ain't claiming one thing over another when doesn't accurately Portray who I am.. da article FAVORS MY PERSPECTIVE so ya need to fall back, is in dis era of political Correctness cats will side with me cuz is a bunch of ya gettin straight up disrespectful tryin to impose ur view on me. Team platano TWITTER check out da myspace
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cRazy dav0		#260	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 13957 01/15/12 2:51 PM	unless any of u guys are anthropologists you guys can't say this person has this or that background. PS3: Samus_aran23 XBOX 360: Mongooseny23 PITT PANTHERS #18 DUKE BLUE DEVILS FLORIDA STATE SEMINOLES UCONN Lady Huskies Tweet Fid-id-did-i-dammmm
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