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Did Christopher Nolan set the Bar?

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shogun		#41	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 3494 01/15/12 1:45 PM	I actually liked the first 2 Tim Burton Batman movies over Nolan's movies (both were criticized for being too dark). I might be the only one though. Michael Keaton ftw. Cassie can sit on the face. No question. Last Edited By: shogun 01/15/12 1:49 PM. Edited 1 time.
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SoVerSoTowel		#42	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 3107 01/15/12 5:25 PM	DT43 wrote: SoVerSoTowel wrote: i see what your saying bro. super hero movies were cheesy as hell i mean... its hard not to be cheesy when your characters are shooting spider webs out of their hands and transforming into green monsters and @%$$ Batman's doesnt have super powers or magic. that's why they were able to make the movies more realistic and serious. plus, Gotham city and the general feel of Batman were meant to be dark and gritty in the first place. dudes trajectory as a superhero began with his parents being murdered in front of him. good point lil buddy Troll Lyfe,..............Troll Lyfe,Troll Lyfe.............Fo0L.
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illmaticsoulchild		#43	[url]	[-]
Posts: 17653 01/15/12 5:49 PM Team Member	Nolan set the bar for Batman films, but not for comic book films in general. If you look at the majority of protagonists in Nolan's films, the Bruce Wayne character is right up his alley. Disturbed, scarred, obsessed, dedicated, etc... IMO, Nolan has done a superb job of translating the Batman mythology into a great set of films, but a lot of that is due to how the character has been developed over time through the graphic novels. A lot of credit also has to be given to his brother and David Goyer who have been integral to the trilogy. What I am afraid of, are studios trying to make their super-hero franchises more "gritty" and "dark," in hopes to replicate the success ofThe Dark Knight (I am directly referring to Marc Webb's, The Amazing Spider-Man which comes out this year). T H E D A R K K N I G H T R I S E S W H E N G O T H A M I S A S H E S . . . Y O U H A V E M Y P E R M I S S I O N T O D I E bleedoffthereel.com
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blakep267		#44	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 77 01/15/12 6:00 PM	illmaticsoulchild wrote: Nolan set the bar for Batman films, but not for comic book films in general. If you look at the majority of protagonists in Nolan's films, the Bruce Wayne character is right up his alley. Disturbed, scarred, obsessed, dedicated, etc... IMO, Nolan has done a superb job of translating the Batman mythology into a great set of films, but a lot of that is due to how the character has been developed over time through the graphic novels. A lot of credit also has to be given to his brother and David Goyer who have been integral to the trilogy. What I am afraid of, are studios trying to make their super-hero franchises more "gritty" and "dark," in hopes to replicate the success ofThe Dark Knight (I am directly referring to Marc Webb's, The Amazing Spider-Man which comes out this year). He does a good job with the tone, but I could argue he has a terrible batman/Bruce Wayne in Christian Bale. he's not even close to what he actually should be. No batcave, he's not as smart as his comic counterpart. Also, Bruce Wayne is suave billionaire, not a goofy douche as Bale plays him. So from movie perspective, George Clooney was probably the best representation of Bruce Wayne. And for Batman, Id say either Kilmer or Keaton.
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Aze201		#45	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 684 01/15/12 6:39 PM	I cant agree with that. Batman/Bruce Wayne has had several low points where he doesn’t resemble a suave billionaire and makes mistakes(as Batman). Nolan’s films could just be an adaptation in the young days of Batman or at a low point, which does coincide with the story line of the movies. There is no uniform representation of Batman. So when making a film it’s up to the director to choose Bruce’s and Batman’s personality and abilities. The Batcave didn’t always exist. It’s definitely developed over the years. Was I reading comics and watching television pre-Batcave? No, but it doesn’t mean it’s not ok to reduce the role or get rid of the Batcave our generation knows.
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Michael Kelso		#46	[url]	[-]
Registered User Posts: 77 01/15/12 6:45 PM	illmaticsoulchild wrote: Nolan set the bar for Batman films, but not for comic book films in general. If you look at the majority of protagonists in Nolan's films, the Bruce Wayne character is right up his alley. Disturbed, scarred, obsessed, dedicated, etc... IMO, Nolan has done a superb job of translating the Batman mythology into a great set of films, but a lot of that is due to how the character has been developed over time through the graphic novels. A lot of credit also has to be given to his brother and David Goyer who have been integral to the trilogy. What I am afraid of, are studios trying to make their super-hero franchises more "gritty" and "dark," in hopes to replicate the success ofThe Dark Knight (I am directly referring to Marc Webb's, The Amazing Spider-Man which comes out this year). I don't read comic books. How is spider-man portrayed in the comics? I know hollywood does there own take on the comics but 50% of the storyline has to come from the comics/cartoons right? PSN - KELKOKK(old) - BILLYGUNN11(new)
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blakep267		#47	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 78 01/15/12 9:34 PM	Aze201 wrote: I cant agree with that. Batman/Bruce Wayne has had several low points where he doesn’t resemble a suave billionaire and makes mistakes(as Batman). Nolan’s films could just be an adaptation in the young days of Batman or at a low point, which does coincide with the story line of the movies. There is no uniform representation of Batman. So when making a film it’s up to the director to choose Bruce’s and Batman’s personality and abilities. The Batcave didn’t always exist. It’s definitely developed over the years. Was I reading comics and watching television pre-Batcave? No, but it doesn’t mean it’s not ok to reduce the role or get rid of the Batcave our generation knows. I agree there is no uniform representation for Batman/Bruce wayne, but personally I like the animated series version of batman ( Kevin Conroy's version) which can be seen in most animated features and in Arkham city/asylum. I like this version because he has the cave, gadgets, and is cold and calculated. Its fine to change a character around, but let's bea real. Nolan's Batman would get eaten alive in a world where superman exists and the threats are more credible. Nolan's Batman never seems to be in control of the situation of shown to be a brilliant tactician.
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ATGD7154xBBxMZ		#48	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 6351 01/15/12 9:45 PM	No. GL, Thor, Wolverine, and Iron Man don't seem more gritty or darker or influenced by Nolan. Spider-Man was always realistic for what Spider-Man is. I'd say maybe X-Men First Class has some influence from what you described but above anything else I feel creating a good story, with good writing, and sticking to what made the characters loveable was always the way to go. Batman just has that prestige and legacy and so many past incarnations have failed. Nolan is just the guy who got it right so that's why it's such a success. Financially speaking Raimi made Spidey a success even though he went a bit far on the levity but I doubt the next remake for the F4 will be hugely successful following Nolan's style. It's all about staying true to the comics and characters. Problem with that is if a director wanted to get say Wolverine right the film would be rated R. If anything I can see the influence of Spawn and Sin City on what Nolan did with Batman. I don't think he set the bar for superhero films but he set it for whoever will try to make the next Bats film. Last Edited By: ATGD7154xBBxMZ 01/15/12 9:49 PM. Edited 2 times.
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Mastamind89		#49	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 8197 01/15/12 11:09 PM	AntonLaVey wrote: I wanna see Tarantino make a superhero movie, I feel like it would be epic and very intelligent He did have a hand in Sin City FRINGE 4 8 15 16 23 42 #NT - Follow Arsenal F.C.
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ErvinSB91		#50	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 647 01/16/12 3:17 AM	i felt a need to watch batman returns recently, then i remembered a scene with 1000 of these as a plot device Spoiler [+] I let that movie stay as a fond memory of my childhood RavageBX wrote: If Jesus came down from heaven and dropped a single featuring God and the Holy Spirit, you would probably hate it
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6 rings MJ		#51	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 9144 01/16/12 3:21 AM	Of course.. Challenge me!! Doubt me!! Disrespect me!! Tell me I'm older!! Tell me I'm slower!! Tell me I can no longer fly!! I WANT YOU TO!!
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