OFFICIAL '11-'12 NYK thread (17-17) 2/23 @ Miami Heat 7:00 PM TNT in Sports & Training Forum

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OFFICIAL '11-'12 NYK thread (17-17) 2/23 @ Miami Heat 7:00 PM TNT

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ATGD7154xBBxMZ		#4861	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 6362 01/16/12 3:43 PM	Also would've liked to see Bibby out there in the final minutes instead of TD. If we're not gonna penetrate against the zone then we needed good timely perimeter shooting which we didn't get from many all game. Time to get rid of Fields fyi. Son is officially on the trading block in my mind. If he ever gets "it" back he'll do it for someone else. TD + Fields and cash/pick for Nash + Hill Cyber Smoke wrote: One of these guys have to go. Preferably to NJ for Deron You are bugging. Last Edited By: ATGD7154xBBxMZ 01/16/12 3:48 PM. Edited 2 times.
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abutta13		#4862	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 842 01/16/12 3:45 PM	professional ball players stumped by simple zone defense. kinda sad.
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8PM at MSG		#4863	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 227 01/16/12 3:46 PM	Melo was right though...at this point, it's truly a confidence issue. Douglas is just getting his back. I think the question is how long is it gonna take for Amare and Landry to get it together. These guys are scared to shoot now...
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MyJaysGetRocked		#4864	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 1550 01/16/12 3:46 PM	ATGD7154xBBxMZ wrote: I didn't like how once Melo came back in the 2nd half of the 4th the team just stopped going to STAT. He was heating up in the 4th and they just forgot about him. It's shh like that that'll make him inconsistent and continue not to be the scorer he can be. Then the zone just effed shh up for us and nobody put a body on Andersen. Did a great job on Dwight though. Not trying to take anything away from STAT, but he had a smaller and slower Davis on him. Once Howard came back, STAT wasn't able to do much. And yes, chandler played great D on Howard, but Howard still should have put up more than 9pts,10reb...one of the reasons why he makes me mad. ///M Orlando Magic
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MrONegative		#4865	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 7904 01/16/12 3:50 PM	9 days to the beard erything else fugazi
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ATGD7154xBBxMZ		#4866	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 6363 01/16/12 3:51 PM	MyJaysGetRocked wrote: ATGD7154xBBxMZ wrote: I didn't like how once Melo came back in the 2nd half of the 4th the team just stopped going to STAT. He was heating up in the 4th and they just forgot about him. It's shh like that that'll make him inconsistent and continue not to be the scorer he can be. Then the zone just effed shh up for us and nobody put a body on Andersen. Did a great job on Dwight though. Not trying to take anything away from STAT, but he had a smaller and slower Davis on him. Once Howard came back, STAT wasn't able to do much. And yes, chandler played great D on Howard, but Howard still should have put up more than 9pts,10reb...one of the reasons why he makes me mad. You right but just going by position Dwight aint suppose to be guarding Amar'e anyway and if he is the offense should be pulling picks to get Hedo or Andersen to guard him. Although with the two being in foul trouble in the 4th I'd risk the matchup.
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arrjae2		#4867	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 3316 01/16/12 3:55 PM	27 shot attempts from Melo, and 8 of them being 3s.... T E A M N E W Y O R K K N I C K S OFFICIAL FAN #64
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MyJaysGetRocked		#4868	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 1551 01/16/12 4:01 PM	ATGD7154xBBxMZ wrote: MyJaysGetRocked wrote: ATGD7154xBBxMZ wrote: I didn't like how once Melo came back in the 2nd half of the 4th the team just stopped going to STAT. He was heating up in the 4th and they just forgot about him. It's shh like that that'll make him inconsistent and continue not to be the scorer he can be. Then the zone just effed shh up for us and nobody put a body on Andersen. Did a great job on Dwight though. Not trying to take anything away from STAT, but he had a smaller and slower Davis on him. Once Howard came back, STAT wasn't able to do much. And yes, chandler played great D on Howard, but Howard still should have put up more than 9pts,10reb...one of the reasons why he makes me mad. You right but just going by position Dwight aint suppose to be guarding Amar'e anyway and if he is the offense should be pulling picks to get Hedo or Andersen to guard him. Although with the two being in foul trouble in the 4th I'd risk the matchup. True. I think they went straight to the zone once howard came back with his 5th foul. That really threw your whole offense off, and it didn't help that Douglas & Shumpert were scared to shoot. ///M Orlando Magic
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Cyber Smoke		#4869	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 1506 01/16/12 4:02 PM	Dantoni is $#@@!@ CLUELESS when the Magic decided to go zone why not sub in Harrelson and Bibby to stretch the floor ? We only have three shooters on this team and none of them get any playing time in the situations they should . Van Gundy severely out coached Dantoni today. T E A M N E W Y O R K K N I C K S Fan #29
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Ballinsam23		#4870	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 2719 01/16/12 4:03 PM	he pretty much gets outcoached every time, so it doesnt even matter at this point. T E A M N E W Y O R K K N I C K S
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REDd SPYDER		#4871	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 1410 01/16/12 4:04 PM	Ballinsam23 wrote: why didnt we keep going to amare? he started hot start of 4th, hasnt touched ball since. they dont allow amare to touch the ball late in the 4th because its Melo time, ugh dantanoi is so much you gotta at it NEW YORK KNICKERBOCKERS
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UPPTEMPO8387		#4872	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 3864 01/16/12 4:07 PM	How does the team hold the best center in the league to 8 points coming off of a 45 point output, and still lose? How does Amar'e make 3 straight shots off the bench and not get the ball for the last 6 minutes? How does Carmelo miss like 3 straight open 3's with the game on the line when he's our most clutch shooter? How does Brian Anderson drop 30 points on us, when all he did was shoot 3s? You can't just figure out "hey, this guy is just shooting 3s..Let's put a defender on him?" How do you not put in Novak who was specifically bought in for 3 point shooting, when the team is getting killed from the 3 point line? For Sale: Jordan XI Concord Size 10.5..Only $320!! PM for Pics Last Edited By: UPPTEMPO8387 01/16/12 4:09 PM. Edited 1 time.
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Cyber Smoke		#4873	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 1507 01/16/12 4:08 PM	ATGD7154xBBxMZ wrote: Also would've liked to see Bibby out there in the final minutes instead of TD. If we're not gonna penetrate against the zone then we needed good timely perimeter shooting which we didn't get from many all game. Time to get rid of Fields fyi. Son is officially on the trading block in my mind. If he ever gets "it" back he'll do it for someone else. TD + Fields and cash/pick for Nash + Hill Cyber Smoke wrote: One of these guys have to go. Preferably to NJ for Deron You are bugging. These dudes do not mesh at all . Were not winning a chip with them together unless we have a elite PG who can get them easy buckets and put a end to iso ball. Also a coach who has a real system and holds everyone accountable on the offensive and defensive ends . Phil Jackson or Greg Popovich aren't not coming here bro T E A M N E W Y O R K K N I C K S Fan #29
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true 3 blue		#4874	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 21318 01/16/12 4:09 PM	Ugh, brutal. City That Never Sleeps GIANTS KNICKS YANKEES REDSTORM
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goldenchild9		#4875	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 1354 01/16/12 4:10 PM	Ballinsam23 wrote: why didnt we keep going to amare? he started hot start of 4th, hasnt touched ball since. Was wondering the same thing. Especially after Melo hurt his ankle again. They gotta allow STAT to work his self into a rhythm too.
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d5		#4876	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 656 01/16/12 4:13 PM	UPPTEMPO8387 wrote: How does the team hold the best center in the league to 8 points coming off of a 45 point output, and still lose? How does Amar'e make 3 straight shots off the bench and not get the ball for the last 6 minutes? How does Carmelo miss like 3 straight open 3's with the game on the line when he's our most clutch shooter? How does Brian Anderson drop 30 points on us, when all he did was shoot 3s? You can't just figure out "hey, this guy is just shooting 3s..Let's put a defender on him?" How do you not put in Novak who was specifically bought in for 3 point shooting, when the team is getting killed from the 3 point line? Answer to all: Dantoni
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rashi		#4877	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 2303 01/16/12 4:15 PM	How did we win this game? I stopped checking an hour ago and we were losing the entire game. "Control oil and you control nations; control food and you control the people." Henry Kissinger
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ATGD7154xBBxMZ		#4878	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 6367 01/16/12 4:19 PM	Cyber Smoke wrote: ATGD7154xBBxMZ wrote: Also would've liked to see Bibby out there in the final minutes instead of TD. If we're not gonna penetrate against the zone then we needed good timely perimeter shooting which we didn't get from many all game. Time to get rid of Fields fyi. Son is officially on the trading block in my mind. If he ever gets "it" back he'll do it for someone else. TD + Fields and cash/pick for Nash + Hill Cyber Smoke wrote: One of these guys have to go. Preferably to NJ for Deron You are bugging. These dudes do not mesh at all . Were not winning a chip with them together unless we have a elite PG who can get them easy buckets and put a end to iso ball. Also a coach who has a real system and holds everyone accountable on the offensive and defensive ends . Phil Jackson or Greg Popovich aren't not coming here bro You are bugging. You've made this assessment/evaluation off of something like 45 games with no training camp going in to a shortened condensed season. I'm sorry but only an idiot would be trying to trade Melo or Amar'e now clamoring that they'll never work. The Knicks would just be a laughing stock pulling that move now (not that any team with a legit star would take that deal). People were saying the same about Wade and LeBron. They just play a bit less unselfishly and have defense to propel them in to meshing quicker.
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goldenchild9		#4879	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 1355 01/16/12 4:20 PM	Management needs to start looking to improve our roster immediately, if they're not already doing so. Fields has to go. Lets get somebody in here who can actually produce. Its time to start building a real roster. Fields, Walker, Bibby...they would all average less than 5 minutes on any other team but they are our key subs. Thats gotta change. Right now its just a waiting game for Baron to come back but we still have to improve our bench. I still think STAT and Melo can work we just need a better coach but thats not happening now.
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MrONegative		#4880	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 7905 01/16/12 4:24 PM	UPPTEMPO8387 wrote: How do you not put in Novak who was specifically bought in for 3 point shooting, when the team is getting killed from the 3 point line? Honestly forgot Novak. Just said to myself...we can't make the shots they're giving us...welp.
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