OFFICIAL '12 NYK off-season thread, so Jeremy Lin is leaving NY and going to back to Cali.... in Sports & Training Forum

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OFFICIAL '12 NYK off-season thread, so Jeremy Lin is leaving NY and going to back to Cali....

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RuffRydya08		#5121	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 1046 01/21/12 1:10 AM	Yea obviously the JVG / Dolan rift is a huge problem but what I was getting at is someone that is a strong enough personality that Dolan won't get in the way of. But unfortunately I think this is something that Dolan will take into consideration with future coaches especially after the Larry Brown fiasco. TEAM FIRE PRINGLES We held 'em to 102, just gotta score more next time
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MrONegative		#5122	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 7969 01/21/12 1:30 AM	Al3xis wrote: Uh, Mike was absolutely someone who Donnie wanted and supported. He was a focal point of the '2010' plan whether it worked or not. I really really doubt it. Donnie's been around for a while and will roll with the punches, but when he first got here, he didn't want someone like D'antoni. He wanted a defensive minded coach. Not a coach who just got fired, because he refused to stress defense. That's why they announced Pringles getting hired at night and Donnie had almost nothing to say? You don't remember that whole Donnie player, D'antoni player back and forth over the years? He's a professional, he's gonna work with what he's got, he's not gonna $$*!+ because his new boss undermined his first decision. And he's not gonna go to war with Pringles, because he wasn't his pick...that's what Isiah would do. Besides Mike was a winning coach, so he was the least of his worries. Dealing with Z-Bo, Curry, Starbury, Jerome James, Jeffries and Jamal's contracts were more important. And demanding that Mike take a defensive assistant was a 'last shot you're gonna get' type move. "You don't have to understand here to be here." -- Charlie Crews
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UPPTEMPO8387		#5123	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 3874 01/21/12 1:30 AM	Let's be real for a minute..Yes, this team is trash..But this team has 2 combo guards playing PG, and one of them has played 15 NBA games in his life...When the 2010 NBA Season began, we all hated Felton because he wasn't running the pick n roll effectively. Amar'e had a decent start but nothing crazy. Then suddenly, Felton was running the pick n roll great and the Knicks went on a winning streak and Amar'e was balling out. Of course Amar'e is gonna take jumpers against quicker PFs as opposed to centers because PFs can actually steal the ball since his ball handling isn't that great. I keep seeing people say "Billups would be a big help if we didn't get rid of him"...Maybe offensively, but defensively this team would be ATROCIOUS. I would not be cool with Amar'e playing Center and Harrelson being the starting PF..Or vice versa..Both of them would get cooked..How about Amar'e at PF and Jeffries as starting Center? I'm about to throw up just thinking about it. People blamed Carmelo for the team only being 14-14 when he came, when that's not even the issue. The issue was C. Billups replaced Felton, which is obviously a negative in terms of passing ability. The only reason Chauncey was good on the Pistons was because Rasheed could create his own shot, and Rip Hamilton just kept running around screens until he got wide open. Ben Wallace had great jumping ability and rarely got set up for easy shots with Billups running the point bc Billups is just an average passer. Davis isn't gonna be an All-Star but he's gonna set people up. He's gonna penetrate n dish..Who does that right now? Shump n TD sure as hell don't..Who can post up besides Melo? Nobody..Davis is a pretty good post up PG so that will help.. Tyson can't create his own shot but Davis can get him easy buckets. People were saying Davis was a defensive liability, but TD isn't much better. This team will be much better in a few weeks. They suck now, not gonna argue that. They will be far from a contender, even with Davis..But unless you're the Heat that suddenly got 2 players that were in their prime, one of them arguably the best all around player in the NBA and the other being a top 10 PF, you're not gonna suddenly go from playoff team to NBA Title ocntender within a season. For Sale: Jordan XI Concord Size 10.5..Only $320!! PM for Pics Last Edited By: UPPTEMPO8387 01/21/12 1:35 AM. Edited 2 times.
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Al3xis		#5124	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 13322 01/21/12 1:38 AM	Donnie went to Arizona to interview Mike and had been on the job 6 weeks before he hired him. He also interviewed Avery Johnson and Jackson, and went with D'Antoni. Saying that that was a forced Dolan hire is speculation and there's not much substance out there to support it. D'Antoni in 2008 was viewed at as a MAJOR bargaining chip to lure LeBron. And at that point, that's what it was all about. If Dolan thought this was one his 'power moves' why wasn't he at the introductory press conference like he was with Melo, Chandler and Amare's? That says a little, doesn't it? He's an attention $%%@@ that wants to look smart but he wasn't around for that one. HOYAS Last Edited By: Al3xis 01/21/12 1:42 AM. Edited 1 time.
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HarlemToTheBronx		#5125	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 31208 01/21/12 1:38 AM	Can't even defend it anymore. NEW YORK KNICKS
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RuffRydya08		#5126	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 1047 01/21/12 1:42 AM	Adam Zagoria @AdamZagoria 17 Jan #Knicks have sent Jerome Jordan and Jeremy Lin to Erie of the D-League Charles Oakley @CharlesOakley34 @AdamZagoria what about the coach Tommy Dee @TommyDeeTKB 17 Jan @CharlesOakley34 Oak, you think he should be sent down too? LOL. Charles Oakley @CharlesOakley34 @TommyDeeTKB the coach yes, u have to many good player on the team to be losing,to bad team bcat, raptors, warrior, Orlando I may be thinking crazy but if the zen master isn't taking this job I'd LOVE to see Ewing get the job and have Oak and Herb on the staff (and Mase for the hell of it) TEAM FIRE PRINGLES We held 'em to 102, just gotta score more next time
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Cyber Smoke		#5127	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 1556 01/21/12 1:45 AM	T E A M N E W Y O R K K N I C K S
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MrONegative		#5128	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 7970 01/21/12 1:53 AM	At what point does speculation and reality meet? I can accept that Donnie knew we'd be losing for 2 years and it was all in for the summer of 2010, but we're never gonna know for sure what happened the last 3 years. The most we know about the Knicks management this last decade, we got from Anuncha Browne. All I knew was that Jackson and JVG were friends, suddenly we went from getting Jackson to Pringles? And our new gm doesn't have a word to say about it? The first important move he makes and they just smuggled dude in at night, put out a statement and called it a day. The past is the past, but Donnie was saying all the right things when he got here, about how we needed defense in New York, then D'antoni gets hired. Believe what you want to, but if all I care about is selling tickets, that's my guy. Your players don't have to be good to change the culture of the team. "You don't have to understand here to be here." -- Charlie Crews
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blackmagnus514		#5129	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 16761 01/21/12 1:59 AM	This team is bad to watch. It's obvious the players have tuned MDA out. Amare has been reduced to being a 4th quarter decoy with bad knees who stands around in the 4th quarter instead of dominating like he should be doing. Shump is a bright spot, but he's a rookie. Harrelson as well. I think they're playing bad because they want and need a new coach. Ya'll are forgetting that Dolan turned down MDA's contract extension request. He has nothing to lose. He's a millionaire and worse comes to worse, he can go back to Italy and coach or get paid by some other idiot team. The most overrated coach in NBA history. Someone said that he wasted Steve Nash and Amare's primes. And I agree This team suffers from a "need a savior" complex....it's been rooted in the team psyche for years, but I've never seen it as bad as it is now. Part of it is fan expectations, part of it is NYC media but most of it is MSG's own marketing campaigns. The whole Bron sweepstakes and getting MDA to coach. Amare propped up to be best PF in Knicks history...ever. Amare was top dog last year..cool. Then Melo comes and these guys are supposed to be the best forward tandem in the league. Then Chandler gets thrown in the pot. Okay, so it's coming out that the three have issues. Let's count on a unheralded rookie to save the team. Then, said rookie has some struggles, and we're reduced to waiting on a PG with a questionable reputation to get healed from back issues? Keep in mind no one wants amare because his contract is uninsured and he's averaging some of his lowest digits. Really? Is this what's going on? Whatever the case, i think MDA is gone if the Nuggets win. He has no respect from the players. Tumblr "Mind's at a place where yours aint, so I'm wearing war paint" @KarstenNV
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ATGD7154xBBxMZ		#5130	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 6458 01/21/12 2:11 AM	Can't fathom why ppl are mentioning Mark Jackson in here Talking like the GSW are top 5 defensive team after 15 games and got the best record in the league. Few pages back ppl just finished discussing the whole GM situation and now want to flip the script about the hiring of Pringles. Stop living in the past. If yall just gonna go back to blaming Dolan might as well stop watching the Knicks until he dies or sells the team. Last Edited By: ATGD7154xBBxMZ 01/21/12 2:19 AM. Edited 3 times.
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blackmagnus514		#5131	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 16762 01/21/12 2:11 AM	lmaooo Al Harrington hit me on Twitter and said he was never the #1 option here because i said he was and that it was bad to watch Tumblr "Mind's at a place where yours aint, so I'm wearing war paint" @KarstenNV
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k3stacks		#5132	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 1159 01/21/12 2:32 AM	I be rootin for yall because of TC but dam yall sorry.
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franchise3		#5133	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 16177 01/21/12 2:35 AM	Stay taking L's. ...so Houston gets the Knicks' pick HoustonRockets The Roc Boys in the building tonight
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Cyber Smoke		#5134	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 1557 01/21/12 2:54 AM	k3stacks & franchise3 Reported for trolling T E A M N E W Y O R K K N I C K S
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ATGD7154xBBxMZ		#5135	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 6462 01/21/12 3:14 AM	Jonah Ballow: "Everyone has to get better including myself. We have to get better." @Tyson Chandler #Knicks Jonah Ballow: "The last thing you want to do is point fingers...we have to stay together as a team & work things out." @Amare Stoudemire #Knicks Jared Zwerling: Shumpert on loss: "In this league, you've gotta just suck it up & deal with it like we gotta game tomorrow. You don't have time to be mad." Al Iannazzone: Carmelo said the Bucks 'punked' the #Knicks. He also said the knicks have to be the team 'doing the punking' Sat vs. the Nuggets. Al Iannazzone: Speaking of Denver, Carmelo said you can't compare the knicks and Nuggets. Melo said Denvers 'got five starters from that trade.' #$$+! talking like he aint have a part in them getting 5 starters.
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Cyber Smoke		#5136	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 1559 01/21/12 3:41 AM	Brandon Jennings said it was easy for him to score because we switch on everything. You think Pringles makes the adjustments and play straight up man and some zone ? Ofcourse not . T E A M N E W Y O R K K N I C K S
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ATGD7154xBBxMZ		#5137	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 6463 01/21/12 4:41 AM	All he and Woodson do is switch so of course he wouldn't. Last timme Pringles had Knicks switch we were in desperate straits. Pringles is stubborn or a forgetful idiot.
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pr0phecy718		#5138	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 20294 01/21/12 5:11 AM	HarlemToTheBronx wrote: Can't even defend it anymore. ha T E A M N E W Y O R K K N I C K S TEAMYANKEESNEW YORK GIANTS TEAM TMNT MICHELANGELO HEROES IN A HALF SHELL, TURTLE POWER much success to ya, even if you wish me the opposite- sooner or later we all see who the prophet is
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Cyber Smoke		#5139	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 1562 01/21/12 5:30 AM	Damn Melo was way more explosive and had way more lift on his jumper when he was in Denver . Dude is probably hurting bad T E A M N E W Y O R K K N I C K S
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goldenchild9		#5140	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 1366 01/21/12 5:38 AM	So Jeremy Lin had a 28 point triple double in his first D League game?
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OFFICIAL '12 NYK off-season thread, so Jeremy Lin is leaving NY and going to back to Cali....