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SHOTS FIRED! Police fatally shoot Guy with a crowbar outside of Carl's Jr. vol. 10 shots though?!?

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KayGeeDaGr8		#361	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 1525 01/26/12 6:53 PM	Oh man I just saw the video that suspect is good to go!!! John Sterling- you are correct we are taught to shoot "two in the chest and one in the head". In this day and age the police really dont have the power they once had except in places where Republicans reside. HEAT MARLINS BUCCANEERS KaY-GeE
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Rex Ryan		#362	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 774 01/26/12 6:53 PM	so if a cop pulls a gun on me what makes him so special that i can't shoot him for endangering my life? if i were to pull a gun on a person i have a problem with i'll get in trouble but why do cops get a free pass for pulling guns on innocent people? Free Cedric Ceballos 1995 Lakers
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KayGeeDaGr8		#363	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 1526 01/26/12 7:03 PM	Rex Ryan- Um ok go on youtube and search police shootings. Its suspicious behavior thats what I go for. I cant speak for all officers but when I see someone reaching for their waste band during a tense situation im blasting!!!! Traffic stops is something different we do it for protection aka you have dark @+% tint im your car and we cant see. HEAT MARLINS BUCCANEERS KaY-GeE
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Fresh Like Will		#364	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 766 01/26/12 7:04 PM	The one cop put himself in the predicament. A lot of people are ignoring that. His partner needed to save him, but because of his incompetence. He has a gun, why is he within 3 feet of this guy with a pipe bender? The bystanders were already safely out of the way. Plus he takes his eyes off the perpetrator and tries to reload his taser within striking distance of this guy with the pipe bender. Is this what they teach in the academy? The partner had to save him from the wrong end of a pipe bender because of his poor decision making. Not even going into how excessive or incredibly harsh it was to shoot the guy in the back after he's turned around ready to keel over. The second cop did not need to shoot. We already learned from his earlier decision making how qualified he was. But since he has a badge and uniform, he is incapable of making bad decisions and everything he does was the best choice. He followed the guy while he continued to repeatedly shoot him in the back. It looked like he had a chip on his shoulder and was a little emotionally disturbed. TEAM STEVE NASH x TEAM CANADA Need help buying sneakers from Japan. PM me if you can help.
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K2theAblaM		#365	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 3629 01/26/12 7:07 PM	Rex Ryan wrote: so if a cop pulls a gun on me what makes him so special that i can't shoot him for endangering my life? if i were to pull a gun on a person i have a problem with i'll get in trouble but why do cops get a free pass for pulling guns on innocent people? You must be stupid. Seriously. You can't be a logical human being and seriously believe what you just wrote at the same time. What part of the video makes you think the assailant is an innocent person? Was it the part where he avoided arrest? Maybe it was where he didn't comply with verbal commands and snatched the tazer off of his face... or the part where he charged at the officer with a deadly weapon. I don't get it. Please explain this to me. Team Fitness Best Shape of my life... EVERYDAY
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AntonLaVey		#366	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 19321 01/26/12 7:11 PM	^^^^^I don't know what reality Rex Ryan is living in, dude is basically saying there should be no law enforcement and we should go back to living in the wild west were people take the law into their own hands I'm sorry anyone who thinks like this, has to be a criminal----that's the conclusion I've come to Why won't cops let me sell heroin and rob people? TEAM METALHEADS TEAM NIGERIA "This God that I worship, this demon I blame. Conspiring as one, it's exactly the same, it's exactly the same." Last Edited By: AntonLaVey 01/26/12 7:19 PM. Edited 1 time.
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Kookcle		#367	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 3367 01/26/12 7:15 PM	Rex Ryan wrote: so if a cop pulls a gun on me what makes him so special that i can't shoot him for endangering my life? if i were to pull a gun on a person i have a problem with i'll get in trouble but why do cops get a free pass for pulling guns on innocent people? WOW....really? ___POLICE LINE DO NOT CROSS_______POLICE LINE DO NOT CROSS_____ POLICE LINE DO NOT CROSS_____POLICE LINE DO NOT CROSS_____POLICE LINE DO NOT CROSS_____POLICE LINE DO NOT TE A M L A K E R S
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DecemberLove		#368	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 558 01/26/12 7:33 PM	A lot of ignorance in this thread. Non-lethal weapons are used in instances that the suspect doesn't cooperate with the cops. Guns are strictly to neutralize the suspect, basically guns are used for strictly killing. The dude didn't cooperate by dropping the weapon and laying on the ground so he was given the taze treatment. Other methods could have been used, say the dog being released, but they weren't given the chance since the perp swung at the cop and that's when it was necessary to shoot and take him down. If anyone's life is in immediate danger anything goes, whether it's 3 or 10 bullets, as long as the threat is neutralized. Guy swung to kill, got killed. There was absolutely nothing wrong with this video in my humble opinion. Last Edited By: DecemberLove 01/26/12 7:36 PM. Edited 1 time.
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DoubleJs07		#369	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 28282 01/26/12 7:49 PM	Rex Ryan wrote: so if a cop pulls a gun on me what makes him so special that i can't shoot him for endangering my life? if i were to pull a gun on a person i have a problem with i'll get in trouble but why do cops get a free pass for pulling guns on innocent people? Possibly the dumbest thing I've ever read on NT. Seriously.
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pookieman		#370	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 2237 01/26/12 8:15 PM	DoubleJs07 wrote: Rex Ryan wrote: so if a cop pulls a gun on me what makes him so special that i can't shoot him for endangering my life? if i were to pull a gun on a person i have a problem with i'll get in trouble but why do cops get a free pass for pulling guns on innocent people? Possibly the dumbest thing I've ever read on NT. Seriously. I understand what Rex Ryan is saying.... Case in point...that shooting by the transit officer in the bay area 2 years ago....if we can't trust the police to keep the lives of the innocent(until proven guilty) safe, then what use are they? If they are just going to blast everything/one that moves then they are useless and deserve the same treatment right? We put those that can take/save lives under extreme microscopes....doctors, lawyers, judges, etc...why don't we properly train and test these officers? The excuse that "people make mistakes" can't always fly when a life is on the line...
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hongcouver604		#371	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 865 01/26/12 8:29 PM	Rex Ryan wrote: so if a cop pulls a gun on me what makes him so special that i can't shoot him for endangering my life? if i were to pull a gun on a person i have a problem with i'll get in trouble but why do cops get a free pass for pulling guns on innocent people? Stay in school and get an education, kids.... unless you want to end up like this guy.
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Rex Ryan		#372	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 776 01/26/12 10:16 PM	pookieman wrote: DoubleJs07 wrote: Rex Ryan wrote: so if a cop pulls a gun on me what makes him so special that i can't shoot him for endangering my life? if i were to pull a gun on a person i have a problem with i'll get in trouble but why do cops get a free pass for pulling guns on innocent people? Possibly the dumbest thing I've ever read on NT. Seriously. I understand what Rex Ryan is saying.... Case in point...that shooting by the transit officer in the bay area 2 years ago....if we can't trust the police to keep the lives of the innocent(until proven guilty) safe, then what use are they? If they are just going to blast everything/one that moves then they are useless and deserve the same treatment right? We put those that can take/save lives under extreme microscopes....doctors, lawyers, judges, etc...why don't we properly train and test these officers? The excuse that "people make mistakes" can't always fly when a life is on the line... thank you good sir. sean bell, oscar grant, amadu diallo. shall i continue. but hey im dumb and don't know what i'm talking to. it's so many other situations i can name that police could've handled without commiting murder. in some cases the person dealing with the cops isn't squeaky clean themselves but cops need to and should be trained better so that their not destroying someones family because that person is mentally ill or irrational. Free Cedric Ceballos 1995 Lakers
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KillTheHype		#373	[url]	[-]
Registered User Posts: 124 01/26/12 11:25 PM	Rex Ryan wrote: pookieman wrote: DoubleJs07 wrote: Rex Ryan wrote: so if a cop pulls a gun on me what makes him so special that i can't shoot him for endangering my life? if i were to pull a gun on a person i have a problem with i'll get in trouble but why do cops get a free pass for pulling guns on innocent people? Possibly the dumbest thing I've ever read on NT. Seriously. I understand what Rex Ryan is saying.... Case in point...that shooting by the transit officer in the bay area 2 years ago....if we can't trust the police to keep the lives of the innocent(until proven guilty) safe, then what use are they? If they are just going to blast everything/one that moves then they are useless and deserve the same treatment right? We put those that can take/save lives under extreme microscopes....doctors, lawyers, judges, etc...why don't we properly train and test these officers? The excuse that "people make mistakes" can't always fly when a life is on the line... thank you good sir. sean bell, oscar grant, amadu diallo. shall i continue. but hey im dumb and don't know what i'm talking to. it's so many other situations i can name that police could've handled without commiting murder. in some cases the person dealing with the cops isn't squeaky clean themselves but cops need to and should be trained better so that their not destroying someones family because that person is mentally ill or irrational. The first sentence didn't make sense. That's why he said it was dumb. I also do understand what you are tying to say. It sucks that the police have the authority to do that. The guy didn't have a gun, he was armed, but he didn't try to attack the offer. I believe one shot should have been enough. UNCHARTEDTHREADS.COM Jordan & Nike Restorations! - Nikon D60 18-55 & 55-200 CLICK HERE!
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Wade187		#374	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 2313 01/27/12 12:55 AM	Lol. So after seeing all the mistakes committed, you guys are now saying it was ok because of the pressure they were in? Or "it happened to fast"? When a doctor is operating on a family member, and hasn't much time and makes a "little" mistake that takes a family members life is that ok? When lives are in your hand, and the tiniest of mistakes are made that end someones life that's not ok. Just cause you don't believe his life was worth much shouldn't change that fact. If there's anytime to place anyone under a microscope it's when a life is taken, doesn't matter if it's by someone with a badge or not. TEAMlateNIGHT On The grind so long I forgot how to sleep "No I don't want that $%*!@$% red pill, give me the blue one, I just want to go home, fap and play Red Dead Redemption in my dark basement all day long."
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Wade187		#375	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 2314 01/27/12 1:10 AM	Something else to think of. If these mistakes had been made and the dude would have actually swung that (which he hadn't yet). That was definitely long enough, to affect the shooting officers one shooting hand, cause he wasn't using both. Had this happened and anyone around been hit with a stray, weather it be man, woman, or child but someone other than this man who "deserved" it would this still be acceptable? Cause when looking at it slowed down you can see that this easily could have happened. Is the fact that police officers left this possibility open acceptable?Would these mistakes still be ok then? Innocent person shot, and the only guns busting were the ones of those protecting us. You are suppose to do whatever it takes to protect lives even if it means losing yours, yet it's ok to make a few mistakes, put your life in danger then bail yourselves out by shooting in the open close enough that strays can possibly hit pedestrians. Cause when "there's not much time to think" it's acceptable to do whatever you have to, to save your life despite the fact that putting your life on the line is part of your job description. Makes perfect sense TEAMlateNIGHT On The grind so long I forgot how to sleep "No I don't want that $%*!@$% red pill, give me the blue one, I just want to go home, fap and play Red Dead Redemption in my dark basement all day long." Last Edited By: Wade187 01/27/12 1:13 AM. Edited 1 time.
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ualreadyknow23		#376	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 1501 01/27/12 8:39 AM	^ Bruh, you're seriously over analyzing the situation and making all these hypothetical assumptions. Like I said earlier, you CANNOT advance at a cop in a threatening manner with a weapon in your hand and expect not to be shot. Period. I don't care what the lead up to the situation was. Yeah taser cop made some mistakes on how he handled the situation but the perp made the critical mistake when he raised that weapon, and it cost him his life. You have to understand man in high stress situations like these where seconds count and lives could be at stake, many people react on instinct, not training. If you wanna get hypothetical, for all we know, it coulda been taser cop's second week on the job. We just don't have enough info about the situation at this point. But no amount of simulated training can prepare you for the real deal. Just like alot of people SAY what they would and wouldn't do if someone pulled a gun out on em or whatnot. But let you be staring down the barrel of a .45. All that "what you WOULD do" goes out the window for most. Anyway, I'm off topic but yes, I do believe the first 5 were completely justified. The second 5 from taser cop, not so much. But again like I said earlier, how do we know WHICH BULLET actually KILLED the guy? - Preciate it. ..:team TEXAS:.. .:713/281/832:. I swear yo I'm like Huey mixed with Riley On Thursday I be tryna save the world and then on Friday, I hit the club...
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AntonLaVey		#377	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 19325 01/27/12 8:43 AM	LOL @ this Rex Ryan dude comparing actual innocent people like Amadou Dialo without weapons getting shot to this idiot with a crowbar, its one thing if cops shoot you unprovoked but if you have a weapon ANY weapon you brought it on yourself TEAM METALHEADS TEAM NIGERIA "This God that I worship, this demon I blame. Conspiring as one, it's exactly the same, it's exactly the same."
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kc24688		#378	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 527 01/27/12 9:15 AM	Without looking it seems like nothing is wrong here. What if the cop takes 2 shots, the guy doesn't get phased, and makes the cop brain dead with a hit? Kids take note this is why you're parents worry about you getting messed up. You think it would never happen to you but if you were unaware of what you're doing (like a bar) you might charge a cop or you might hit someone that runs in the middle of the road and now you have to get a manslaughter instead of walking away free. REX! You're a fool dude.. don't take your self seriously please. If a cop pulled a gun you most likely did not follow his instructions. For that moment in time you are their woman and you have to listen. The reason your point falls miserably short is because there is no better alternative than to trust an officer who underwent a tough screening process. Nothing will ever be perfect dude. Last Edited By: kc24688 01/27/12 9:21 AM. Edited 2 times.
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tim teufel		#379	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 3628 01/27/12 9:27 AM	I'm sorry but if you put yourself anywhere near this kind of situation you already know what's gonna happen. Also a lot of suicidal people wanna go out getting shot by police T E A M N E W Y O R K K N I C K S T E A M N E W Y O R K M E T S
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Rex Ryan		#380	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 780 01/27/12 10:45 AM	At the end of the day the sad thing is the lack of regard for the guy with the crowbars life. Could he have been subdued without being murdered in cold blood? The answer to that is yes. If he had a gun I could be more understanding but a crowbar. Just taze him, $%%@ below the belt where he'll be subdued but not killed. This could've been handled way better. Free Cedric Ceballos 1995 Lakers
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