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ATGD7154xBBxMZ wrote:cap1229 wrote:Snarky. I'm not Catholic thank God. My parents loved me. I'm Episcopalian and I will continue to laugh at your pain.Funny how we all ignored that part. That's some sadistic #@%!. Is that how Episcopalians roll?
cap1229 wrote:Snarky. I'm not Catholic thank God. My parents loved me. I'm Episcopalian and I will continue to laugh at your pain.
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10. Satanists are obsessed with heavy metal/9. Satanists wear all black clothing.8. Satanists routinely curse other people.7. The government is run by Satanists (usually evil ones which sacrifice children to molech.)6. Satanists abuse children and animals during rituals.5. Satanists lie constantly.4. Satanists hate jesus or god.3. Satanists intend to take over the world.2. There is a literal church of Satan (that is a temple of some sort where we congregate.)1. Satanists worship a being termed "Satan" or "Lucifer" or "The Devil."-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Just give it a listen before tromping in with hate speech, insults, derailments, or pure trollness.
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01/28/12 6:49 AM
sillyputty wrote:Iamjusayn wrote:sillyputty wrote: If someone puts a gun to my head without giving me enough time to react and asks me to profess my love for the almighty god, Thor (blessed be his hammer), would you or would you not do it?The point is to LIVE TO FIGHT ANOTHER DAY. Get him back tomorrow. If your pride (and ignorance) prevents you from escaping a certain death by "standing up", there are only a few words I can call you without hurting your "feelings" So no. I'm not losing my life over NOT believing in something. Too many have lost theirs defending "nothing" as it is. That's ironic, being that you directly benefit from hundreds of people who afforded you the ability to do as much as you currently can do in ATL () or wherever you reside, Defending civil rights is one things.I'm not dying to defend christianity or "the lack of belief" or whatever trumped up idea you have for a semblance of religion.The two aren't even related and don't make the mistake of equating them again. attend those schools that slavishly indoctrinate you and many more freedoms. Because all of us were english majors?Its funny. How can I be the "indoctrinated" one? You're defending ONE religious position, and not ALL of them. Isn't it you thats a little limited? Its funny how the more education you have, the more liberal you become. Maybe its the increased ability to reason on behalf of others that allows you to embrace more empathetic positions. But again, correlation, doesn't equal causation... They laid their beliefs on the line while being threatened, beaten, killed and disrespected all because they stood by what they believed in (how pridefully ignorant of them). Those must definitely be some bottom of the barrel ignorant humans according to your "runneth at the mouth" atheist facade. I guess it does not apply to them since their was no internet/niketalk/forum back then for them to front about their beliefs so on these grounds, you are safe homeboy.I am safe.I'm VERY safe.I could go to jail in probably 20 countries right now for being a non-believer. Thats how messed up the system is.However, I will not DIE over the fact someone wants me to temporarily say "yes, Spiderman is god" Are you SERIOUS? But yeah, if you die for a religion, I'd say you died a pointless death.And before you try to say those in the civil rights marches died because of christian beliefs, then you're wrong again. Christianity didn't grant us equal rights, understanding secular humanism did. Human rights transcends any other division by granting equal identification and protecting under the law of the land.This tells me a few things: you are a derelict, Ad-hominem #1Where is your proof of this?you deliberately ignore your history (since you clearly do not know where you are going),What history?I'm not going to take a bullet to the head because someone says I don't accept their god. Thats not how you overcome religious indoctrination. When a gun is at my head then we've gotten really far off track from the original mission.Spiderman commends you, you do not NOT believe what you deem atheist and, you like to argue for the sake of argument.I don't even understand what you're saying.Carry on P.Parker. I don't want to disturb you any more. You are clearly proving that you know a whole lot of nothing! I don't understand what you're saying. *Insert here* "I do not live in ATL", "that's a horrible example", "those are two different types of beliefs"Quick! Which one are you...Bill nye the science guy or P. Parker? Oh yeah, that's right...you can be anyone you want based off how secure you feel at that moment. Ok, I'm done. You can telepathically motion your cronies to chime in and help you refute. If there was ever a poorer worded, expressed, and confusing sentiment... I'll say it here and now. If you die defending a religion, I think you're an utter fool.If you wouldn't die defending Thor, Ra, Osiris, Shiva, or the Odin, then you're wasting your time dying for whatever god you THINK exists.I can't believe you would equate the quest for HUMAN RIGHTS and autonomy to dying for mythology.
Iamjusayn wrote:sillyputty wrote: If someone puts a gun to my head without giving me enough time to react and asks me to profess my love for the almighty god, Thor (blessed be his hammer), would you or would you not do it?The point is to LIVE TO FIGHT ANOTHER DAY. Get him back tomorrow. If your pride (and ignorance) prevents you from escaping a certain death by "standing up", there are only a few words I can call you without hurting your "feelings" So no. I'm not losing my life over NOT believing in something. Too many have lost theirs defending "nothing" as it is. That's ironic, being that you directly benefit from hundreds of people who afforded you the ability to do as much as you currently can do in ATL () or wherever you reside,
sillyputty wrote: If someone puts a gun to my head without giving me enough time to react and asks me to profess my love for the almighty god, Thor (blessed be his hammer), would you or would you not do it?The point is to LIVE TO FIGHT ANOTHER DAY. Get him back tomorrow. If your pride (and ignorance) prevents you from escaping a certain death by "standing up", there are only a few words I can call you without hurting your "feelings" So no. I'm not losing my life over NOT believing in something. Too many have lost theirs defending "nothing" as it is.
attend those schools that slavishly indoctrinate you and many more freedoms.
They laid their beliefs on the line while being threatened, beaten, killed and disrespected all because they stood by what they believed in (how pridefully ignorant of them). Those must definitely be some bottom of the barrel ignorant humans according to your "runneth at the mouth" atheist facade. I guess it does not apply to them since their was no internet/niketalk/forum back then for them to front about their beliefs so on these grounds, you are safe homeboy.
This tells me a few things: you are a derelict,
you deliberately ignore your history (since you clearly do not know where you are going),
Spiderman commends you, you do not NOT believe what you deem atheist and, you like to argue for the sake of argument.
Carry on P.Parker. I don't want to disturb you any more. You are clearly proving that you know a whole lot of nothing!
*Insert here* "I do not live in ATL", "that's a horrible example", "those are two different types of beliefs"
Quick! Which one are you...Bill nye the science guy or P. Parker? Oh yeah, that's right...you can be anyone you want based off how secure you feel at that moment. Ok, I'm done. You can telepathically motion your cronies to chime in and help you refute.
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Iamjusayn wrote:sillyputty wrote:Iamjusayn wrote:That's ironic, being that you directly benefit from hundreds of people who afforded you the ability to do as much as you currently can do in ATL () or wherever you reside, Defending civil rights is one things.I'm not dying to defend christianity or "the lack of belief" or whatever trumped up idea you have for a semblance of religion.The two aren't even related and don't make the mistake of equating them again. attend those schools that slavishly indoctrinate you and many more freedoms. Because all of us were english majors?Its funny. How can I be the "indoctrinated" one? You're defending ONE religious position, and not ALL of them. Isn't it you thats a little limited? Its funny how the more education you have, the more liberal you become. Maybe its the increased ability to reason on behalf of others that allows you to embrace more empathetic positions. But again, correlation, doesn't equal causation... They laid their beliefs on the line while being threatened, beaten, killed and disrespected all because they stood by what they believed in (how pridefully ignorant of them). Those must definitely be some bottom of the barrel ignorant humans according to your "runneth at the mouth" atheist facade. I guess it does not apply to them since their was no internet/niketalk/forum back then for them to front about their beliefs so on these grounds, you are safe homeboy.I am safe.I'm VERY safe.I could go to jail in probably 20 countries right now for being a non-believer. Thats how messed up the system is.However, I will not DIE over the fact someone wants me to temporarily say "yes, Spiderman is god" Are you SERIOUS? But yeah, if you die for a religion, I'd say you died a pointless death.And before you try to say those in the civil rights marches died because of christian beliefs, then you're wrong again. Christianity didn't grant us equal rights, understanding secular humanism did. Human rights transcends any other division by granting equal identification and protecting under the law of the land.This tells me a few things: you are a derelict, Ad-hominem #1Where is your proof of this?you deliberately ignore your history (since you clearly do not know where you are going),What history?I'm not going to take a bullet to the head because someone says I don't accept their god. Thats not how you overcome religious indoctrination. When a gun is at my head then we've gotten really far off track from the original mission.Spiderman commends you, you do not NOT believe what you deem atheist and, you like to argue for the sake of argument.I don't even understand what you're saying.Carry on P.Parker. I don't want to disturb you any more. You are clearly proving that you know a whole lot of nothing! I don't understand what you're saying. *Insert here* "I do not live in ATL", "that's a horrible example", "those are two different types of beliefs"Quick! Which one are you...Bill nye the science guy or P. Parker? Oh yeah, that's right...you can be anyone you want based off how secure you feel at that moment. Ok, I'm done. You can telepathically motion your cronies to chime in and help you refute. If there was ever a poorer worded, expressed, and confusing sentiment... I'll say it here and now. If you die defending a religion, I think you're an utter fool.If you wouldn't die defending Thor, Ra, Osiris, Shiva, or the Odin, then you're wasting your time dying for whatever god you THINK exists.I can't believe you would equate the quest for HUMAN RIGHTS and autonomy to dying for mythology. You missed the whole point. You said Civil War, not me. The whole point was to illustrate to you that what you say is your opinion/stance (since you won't call it a belief) is fraudulent. You don't really mean all this stuff you argue about every single day! Stop misusing the Ad hominem term. I can refute what you say and still call you what you are which is a clown. You spend so much time and energy in these threads trying to discredit other posters beliefs and ideologies voraciously as if you really believe in what you say but you don't and you proved it. You are a trend. You ride with whatever is convenient at the time...until it gets real.You are worse than what you argue against. You are the problem, not them. I have read different post you have typed for long enough and it's clear as day now that you are a flip flop. At least these people who believe in God, etc etc truly stand by and believe in what they say and are willing to stand up tall and firm when it gets real just like the example I gave you above that you deemed Civil Rights. There are plenty of people riding for their beliefs in a god who sometimes get mistreated, beat, or killed all the time. Bottom line is a belief is a belief and when you start to flip for when the situation is too real for you is when you know if it's truly a belief or a facade. An example of a belief (since you will respond by arguing like you don't understand) is when you stand up for yourself at your job to your boss when you know you were not wrong in doing what you were accused of even while someone whispers (like a lil B) "man if I was you I would just leave it alone...you know they don't like people with your skin color" and you end up getting fired for it. Who knows, you might get to sue and "live another day" as you would say but you still stood up when it got "real". Another would be if someone raped a little girl you knew and nobody spoke on it to authorities to help the case so you stepped up and gave your side to provide justice even though you received threats that if you spoke up, you would get hurt/killed. Anything else is a facade bro. You on the other hand....well. You want the convenience to have a forum to spew your discrediting disrespectful comments onto others about how silly their beliefs are while at the same time when you are faced with a situation that just got "real", you want to turn into a clown, Mr. Parker, a God fearing believer to save your flip flopping life! That's pathetic and weak. Why don't you stop spending so much time trying to clown other people's beliefs and just play your part, which is a lost soul who does not really "get it" but thinks he does? What I have gathered from your responses to me in this thread is that you are that same guy who let's say is an aspiring music artist who finally meets a top level executive posing as a straight male meeting this exec in his office as the exec starts coming at you with homosexual proposals, you respond hurriedly to perform them since you know this will land you that music deal even though you presented yourself as straight. Sound familiar? Sure it does not...to you. Point is that you want to be on these threads pretending to be about that life as if you are more educated to make better educated decisions to not follow god, religion, mythology, etc etc while simultaneously putting others down and/or belittling them but then when it gets real (in your case...off the Internet/Niketalk ), prompting you to rep what you vehemently argue against...you turn chameleon aka God fearing. I'm through responding to you and reading through your nonsense but I do appreciate you taking the time out to reveal your true self. #Silly
sillyputty wrote:Iamjusayn wrote:That's ironic, being that you directly benefit from hundreds of people who afforded you the ability to do as much as you currently can do in ATL () or wherever you reside, Defending civil rights is one things.I'm not dying to defend christianity or "the lack of belief" or whatever trumped up idea you have for a semblance of religion.The two aren't even related and don't make the mistake of equating them again. attend those schools that slavishly indoctrinate you and many more freedoms. Because all of us were english majors?Its funny. How can I be the "indoctrinated" one? You're defending ONE religious position, and not ALL of them. Isn't it you thats a little limited? Its funny how the more education you have, the more liberal you become. Maybe its the increased ability to reason on behalf of others that allows you to embrace more empathetic positions. But again, correlation, doesn't equal causation... They laid their beliefs on the line while being threatened, beaten, killed and disrespected all because they stood by what they believed in (how pridefully ignorant of them). Those must definitely be some bottom of the barrel ignorant humans according to your "runneth at the mouth" atheist facade. I guess it does not apply to them since their was no internet/niketalk/forum back then for them to front about their beliefs so on these grounds, you are safe homeboy.I am safe.I'm VERY safe.I could go to jail in probably 20 countries right now for being a non-believer. Thats how messed up the system is.However, I will not DIE over the fact someone wants me to temporarily say "yes, Spiderman is god" Are you SERIOUS? But yeah, if you die for a religion, I'd say you died a pointless death.And before you try to say those in the civil rights marches died because of christian beliefs, then you're wrong again. Christianity didn't grant us equal rights, understanding secular humanism did. Human rights transcends any other division by granting equal identification and protecting under the law of the land.This tells me a few things: you are a derelict, Ad-hominem #1Where is your proof of this?you deliberately ignore your history (since you clearly do not know where you are going),What history?I'm not going to take a bullet to the head because someone says I don't accept their god. Thats not how you overcome religious indoctrination. When a gun is at my head then we've gotten really far off track from the original mission.Spiderman commends you, you do not NOT believe what you deem atheist and, you like to argue for the sake of argument.I don't even understand what you're saying.Carry on P.Parker. I don't want to disturb you any more. You are clearly proving that you know a whole lot of nothing! I don't understand what you're saying. *Insert here* "I do not live in ATL", "that's a horrible example", "those are two different types of beliefs"Quick! Which one are you...Bill nye the science guy or P. Parker? Oh yeah, that's right...you can be anyone you want based off how secure you feel at that moment. Ok, I'm done. You can telepathically motion your cronies to chime in and help you refute. If there was ever a poorer worded, expressed, and confusing sentiment... I'll say it here and now. If you die defending a religion, I think you're an utter fool.If you wouldn't die defending Thor, Ra, Osiris, Shiva, or the Odin, then you're wasting your time dying for whatever god you THINK exists.I can't believe you would equate the quest for HUMAN RIGHTS and autonomy to dying for mythology.
Iamjusayn wrote:That's ironic, being that you directly benefit from hundreds of people who afforded you the ability to do as much as you currently can do in ATL () or wherever you reside,
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cap1229 wrote:sillyputty wrote:cap1229 wrote:Silly Putty it's your life and you have to live with the choices that you make and so do I. End of discussion. I now see that we're just wired differently and that has nothing to do with my religion or your lack of religion. 1. Why are you addressing ONLY me? Am I the only non-believer on NT or this thread? 2. Why are you waving the white flag? No one was responding to you, or even challenging you.3. Stop making it seem like "well i'll just do what I want and you just do what you want". Thats all its EVER been. If you choose to participate in the discussion, don't start backtracking like people are just free to believe what they want. If that was the case, you wouldn't have contributed. Whenever one side doesn't have anything to say its always "well just let us believe what we want, so there!" ...no one was stopping you in the first place. We said our piece. You said yours. Stop acting like people saying things you don't like is grounds for you to declare that your rights have been infringed upon. Thats just skewing the argument on your terms.4. Its not the "end of discussion." Its just where you choose not to respond any more. Thats a personal decision and has no bearing on what others have to say or should feel.Oh and for the record, you're not wired differently in this sense. You have common sense, you're just choosing to overlook it. Use whatever method you want to disprove that Thor exists, and then apply it to your god. Waving the white flag?sillyputty wrote:Iamjusayn wrote: cap1229 wrote:You are soooo . Are you in any position to come at anyone when you were exposed to be a man that wouldn't stand his ground for his beliefs? I mean really.I'll let you cook though and "preach" online to your followers. Lol I really think you should make an official thread though. Since your all about dropping "knowledge". A collective of "redditors". Get tags and $#%%. I dunno. At least make this amusing. If someone puts a gun to my head without giving me enough time to react and asks me to profess my love for the almighty god, Thor (blessed be his hammer), would you or would you not do it?The point is to LIVE TO FIGHT ANOTHER DAY. Get him back tomorrow. If your pride (and ignorance) prevents you from escaping a certain death by "standing up", there are only a few words I can call you without hurting your "feelings" So no. I'm not losing my life over NOT believing in something. Too many have lost theirs defending "nothing" as it is. Nobody was responding to me? Oh okay.You just aren't worth the extra keystrokes to go back and forth with. Make-up similar to Francesco Schettino.
sillyputty wrote:cap1229 wrote:Silly Putty it's your life and you have to live with the choices that you make and so do I. End of discussion. I now see that we're just wired differently and that has nothing to do with my religion or your lack of religion. 1. Why are you addressing ONLY me? Am I the only non-believer on NT or this thread? 2. Why are you waving the white flag? No one was responding to you, or even challenging you.3. Stop making it seem like "well i'll just do what I want and you just do what you want". Thats all its EVER been. If you choose to participate in the discussion, don't start backtracking like people are just free to believe what they want. If that was the case, you wouldn't have contributed. Whenever one side doesn't have anything to say its always "well just let us believe what we want, so there!" ...no one was stopping you in the first place. We said our piece. You said yours. Stop acting like people saying things you don't like is grounds for you to declare that your rights have been infringed upon. Thats just skewing the argument on your terms.4. Its not the "end of discussion." Its just where you choose not to respond any more. Thats a personal decision and has no bearing on what others have to say or should feel.Oh and for the record, you're not wired differently in this sense. You have common sense, you're just choosing to overlook it. Use whatever method you want to disprove that Thor exists, and then apply it to your god.
cap1229 wrote:Silly Putty it's your life and you have to live with the choices that you make and so do I. End of discussion. I now see that we're just wired differently and that has nothing to do with my religion or your lack of religion.
Silly Putty it's your life and you have to live with the choices that you make and so do I. End of discussion. I now see that we're just wired differently and that has nothing to do with my religion or your lack of religion.
Waving the white flag?
sillyputty wrote:Iamjusayn wrote: cap1229 wrote:You are soooo . Are you in any position to come at anyone when you were exposed to be a man that wouldn't stand his ground for his beliefs? I mean really.I'll let you cook though and "preach" online to your followers. Lol I really think you should make an official thread though. Since your all about dropping "knowledge". A collective of "redditors". Get tags and $#%%. I dunno. At least make this amusing. If someone puts a gun to my head without giving me enough time to react and asks me to profess my love for the almighty god, Thor (blessed be his hammer), would you or would you not do it?The point is to LIVE TO FIGHT ANOTHER DAY. Get him back tomorrow. If your pride (and ignorance) prevents you from escaping a certain death by "standing up", there are only a few words I can call you without hurting your "feelings" So no. I'm not losing my life over NOT believing in something. Too many have lost theirs defending "nothing" as it is.
Iamjusayn wrote: cap1229 wrote:You are soooo . Are you in any position to come at anyone when you were exposed to be a man that wouldn't stand his ground for his beliefs? I mean really.I'll let you cook though and "preach" online to your followers. Lol I really think you should make an official thread though. Since your all about dropping "knowledge". A collective of "redditors". Get tags and $#%%. I dunno. At least make this amusing.
You just aren't worth the extra keystrokes to go back and forth with.
Make-up similar to Francesco Schettino.
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Iamjusayn wrote:sillyputty wrote:Iamjusayn wrote:That's ironic, being that you directly benefit from hundreds of people who afforded you the ability to do as much as you currently can do in ATL () or wherever you reside, Defending civil rights is one things.I'm not dying to defend christianity or "the lack of belief" or whatever trumped up idea you have for a semblance of religion.The two aren't even related and don't make the mistake of equating them again. attend those schools that slavishly indoctrinate you and many more freedoms. Because all of us were english majors?Its funny. How can I be the "indoctrinated" one? You're defending ONE religious position, and not ALL of them. Isn't it you thats a little limited? Its funny how the more education you have, the more liberal you become. Maybe its the increased ability to reason on behalf of others that allows you to embrace more empathetic positions. But again, correlation, doesn't equal causation... They laid their beliefs on the line while being threatened, beaten, killed and disrespected all because they stood by what they believed in (how pridefully ignorant of them). Those must definitely be some bottom of the barrel ignorant humans according to your "runneth at the mouth" atheist facade. I guess it does not apply to them since their was no internet/niketalk/forum back then for them to front about their beliefs so on these grounds, you are safe homeboy.I am safe.I'm VERY safe.I could go to jail in probably 20 countries right now for being a non-believer. Thats how messed up the system is.However, I will not DIE over the fact someone wants me to temporarily say "yes, Spiderman is god" Are you SERIOUS? But yeah, if you die for a religion, I'd say you died a pointless death.And before you try to say those in the civil rights marches died because of christian beliefs, then you're wrong again. Christianity didn't grant us equal rights, understanding secular humanism did. Human rights transcends any other division by granting equal identification and protecting under the law of the land.This tells me a few things: you are a derelict, Ad-hominem #1Where is your proof of this?you deliberately ignore your history (since you clearly do not know where you are going),What history?I'm not going to take a bullet to the head because someone says I don't accept their god. Thats not how you overcome religious indoctrination. When a gun is at my head then we've gotten really far off track from the original mission.Spiderman commends you, you do not NOT believe what you deem atheist and, you like to argue for the sake of argument.I don't even understand what you're saying.Carry on P.Parker. I don't want to disturb you any more. You are clearly proving that you know a whole lot of nothing! I don't understand what you're saying. *Insert here* "I do not live in ATL", "that's a horrible example", "those are two different types of beliefs" Quick! Which one are you...Bill nye the science guy or P. Parker? Oh yeah, that's right...you can be anyone you want based off how secure you feel at that moment. Ok, I'm done. You can telepathically motion your cronies to chime in and help you refute. If there was ever a poorer worded, expressed, and confusing sentiment... I'll say it here and now. If you die defending a religion, I think you're an utter fool.If you wouldn't die defending Thor, Ra, Osiris, Shiva, or the Odin, then you're wasting your time dying for whatever god you THINK exists.I can't believe you would equate the quest for HUMAN RIGHTS and autonomy to dying for mythology. You missed the whole point. You said Civil War, not me.
sillyputty wrote:Iamjusayn wrote:That's ironic, being that you directly benefit from hundreds of people who afforded you the ability to do as much as you currently can do in ATL () or wherever you reside, Defending civil rights is one things.I'm not dying to defend christianity or "the lack of belief" or whatever trumped up idea you have for a semblance of religion.The two aren't even related and don't make the mistake of equating them again. attend those schools that slavishly indoctrinate you and many more freedoms. Because all of us were english majors?Its funny. How can I be the "indoctrinated" one? You're defending ONE religious position, and not ALL of them. Isn't it you thats a little limited? Its funny how the more education you have, the more liberal you become. Maybe its the increased ability to reason on behalf of others that allows you to embrace more empathetic positions. But again, correlation, doesn't equal causation... They laid their beliefs on the line while being threatened, beaten, killed and disrespected all because they stood by what they believed in (how pridefully ignorant of them). Those must definitely be some bottom of the barrel ignorant humans according to your "runneth at the mouth" atheist facade. I guess it does not apply to them since their was no internet/niketalk/forum back then for them to front about their beliefs so on these grounds, you are safe homeboy.I am safe.I'm VERY safe.I could go to jail in probably 20 countries right now for being a non-believer. Thats how messed up the system is.However, I will not DIE over the fact someone wants me to temporarily say "yes, Spiderman is god" Are you SERIOUS? But yeah, if you die for a religion, I'd say you died a pointless death.And before you try to say those in the civil rights marches died because of christian beliefs, then you're wrong again. Christianity didn't grant us equal rights, understanding secular humanism did. Human rights transcends any other division by granting equal identification and protecting under the law of the land.This tells me a few things: you are a derelict, Ad-hominem #1Where is your proof of this?you deliberately ignore your history (since you clearly do not know where you are going),What history?I'm not going to take a bullet to the head because someone says I don't accept their god. Thats not how you overcome religious indoctrination. When a gun is at my head then we've gotten really far off track from the original mission.Spiderman commends you, you do not NOT believe what you deem atheist and, you like to argue for the sake of argument.I don't even understand what you're saying.Carry on P.Parker. I don't want to disturb you any more. You are clearly proving that you know a whole lot of nothing! I don't understand what you're saying. *Insert here* "I do not live in ATL", "that's a horrible example", "those are two different types of beliefs" Quick! Which one are you...Bill nye the science guy or P. Parker? Oh yeah, that's right...you can be anyone you want based off how secure you feel at that moment. Ok, I'm done. You can telepathically motion your cronies to chime in and help you refute. If there was ever a poorer worded, expressed, and confusing sentiment... I'll say it here and now. If you die defending a religion, I think you're an utter fool.If you wouldn't die defending Thor, Ra, Osiris, Shiva, or the Odin, then you're wasting your time dying for whatever god you THINK exists.I can't believe you would equate the quest for HUMAN RIGHTS and autonomy to dying for mythology.
The whole point was to illustrate to you that what you say is your opinion/stance (since you won't call it a belief) is fraudulent. You don't really mean all this stuff you argue about every single day!
Stop misusing the Ad hominem term.
I can refute what you say and still call you what you are which is a clown.
You spend so much time and energy in these threads trying to discredit other posters beliefs and ideologies voraciously as if you really believe in what you say but you don't and you proved it. You are a trend. You ride with whatever is convenient at the time...until it gets real.
You are worse than what you argue against. You are the problem, not them. I have read different post you have typed for long enough and it's clear as day now that you are a flip flop.
At least these people who believe in God, etc etc truly stand by and believe in what they say and are willing to stand up tall and firm when it gets real just like the example I gave you above that you deemed Civil Rights. There are plenty of people riding for their beliefs in a god who sometimes get mistreated, beat, or killed all the time.
Bottom line is a belief is a belief and when you start to flip for when the situation is too real for you is when you know if it's truly a belief or a facade.
An example of a belief (since you will respond by arguing like you don't understand) is when you stand up for yourself at your job to your boss when you know you were not wrong in doing what you were accused of even while someone whispers (like a lil B) "man if I was you I would just leave it alone...you know they don't like people with your skin color" and you end up getting fired for it.
Who knows, you might get to sue and "live another day" as you would say but you still stood up when it got "real". Another would be if someone raped a little girl you knew and nobody spoke on it to authorities to help the case so you stepped up and gave your side to provide justice even though you received threats that if you spoke up, you would get hurt/killed. Anything else is a facade bro.
You on the other hand....well. You want the convenience to have a forum to spew your discrediting disrespectful comments onto others about how silly their beliefs are while at the same time when you are faced with a situation that just got "real", you want to turn into a clown, Mr. Parker, a God fearing believer to save your flip flopping life!
That's pathetic and weak. Why don't you stop spending so much time trying to clown other people's beliefs and just play your part, which is a lost soul who does not really "get it" but thinks he does?
What I have gathered from your responses to me in this thread is that you are that same guy who let's say is an aspiring music artist who finally meets a top level executive posing as a straight male meeting this exec in his office as the exec starts coming at you with homosexual proposals, you respond hurriedly to perform them since you know this will land you that music deal even though you presented yourself as straight
Sound familiar? Sure it does not...to you. Point is that you want to be on these threads pretending to be about that life
as if you are more educated to make better educated decisions to not follow god, religion, mythology, etc etc
while simultaneously putting others down and/or belittling them but then when it gets real (in your case...off the Internet/Niketalk ), prompting you to rep what you vehemently argue against...you turn chameleon aka God fearing.
I'm through responding to you and reading through your nonsense but I do appreciate you taking the time out to reveal your true self. #Silly
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shoefreakbaby wrote:sillyputty wrote:cap1229 wrote:Silly Putty it's your life and you have to live with the choices that you make and so do I. End of discussion. I now see that we're just wired differently and that has nothing to do with my religion or your lack of religion. 1. Why are you addressing ONLY me? Am I the only non-believer on NT or this thread? For real why are you addressing only him I see you cap,putty is mine(and antons). There is no room for you.On the real, I prayed this thread would disappear last night and it didnt.Guess God dont exist.
sillyputty wrote:cap1229 wrote:Silly Putty it's your life and you have to live with the choices that you make and so do I. End of discussion. I now see that we're just wired differently and that has nothing to do with my religion or your lack of religion. 1. Why are you addressing ONLY me? Am I the only non-believer on NT or this thread?
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Mycoldyourdone wrote:its cause you have your belief (religion or idea of god) attached to you. we dont have any of that. so if someone has me at gunpoint and tells me "say you believe in allah or i kill you" i wouldnt have a problem in saying it cause it has no attachment, meaning or true value to me. do you think atheism has an attachment, meaning or value to a person? its just a lack of theism. i dont have an atheism god and if i disrespect him im going to athiest hell. you guys are gonna ride what he said till it dies cause sadly that is the only "argument" youve found out of the 10,000 questions, memes and other things. it had nothing to do with anything, you all just took it out of context and blew it out of proportion to finally have a reason to attack him.
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