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cap1229		#701	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 120 01/29/12 5:57 PM	shoefreakbaby wrote: cap1229 wrote: It is the fastest growing religion. @%%% if it isnt a humble statement. It's a fact. Humility plays a very large role of Islam. Spare me. I personally don't give a %#*% about what Islam is about but is it NOT the fastest growing religion? I'm just saying you can do better. #Spartan
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il prescelto		#702	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 659 01/29/12 5:58 PM	tkthafm wrote: Again, you claiming them to not be true/convincing etc means nothing. Plenty of others, including experts in their respective feels felt otherwise, many strongly enough to convert (already mentioned some). You aren't convinced. That's fine. There will always be non-believers, but this has no bearing on the legitimacy of the evidence provided.� I can't provide a better "single evidence" than the Qur'an itself. It's a incomparable miracle on many different levels. Spare me the irrelevant pictures or oversimplifications of "you cant use the book saying its from God as evidence it's from God" .... because that's not what I'm doing. I'm looking at the content (linguistic/scientific/historical etc etc) and then making my conclusion. If a book is from God it must be perfect in every way correct ? I did my research and found this to be true for the Qur'an. There's still an element of faith, but no other religion on Earth can put forth as strong of a case, to the point where it actually becomes illogical to believe it's NOT divine. Just look at your inability to provide me with any reasonable alternative origin for the Qur'an. All of the ancient civilizations you mentioned never produced anything anywhere near the Qur'an alone. How could humans have possible came up with it ?� If you watch this entire lecture with an open mind I don't see how you can still claim otherwise, unless you are�purposefully�refusing to admit you are wrong. Why could it not have been possible for a human being to write it? Perfection is such a loosely defined concept, plenty of human beings are capable of perfection.
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shoefreakbaby		#703	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 958 01/29/12 6:00 PM	Ballin wrote: I Love You Silly Putty BACK OFF
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FIREPOWER23		#704	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 2842 01/29/12 6:02 PM	tkthafam -It really is shocking how you fail to see the irony and hypocrisy with everything you post.
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shoefreakbaby		#705	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 959 01/29/12 6:02 PM	cap1229 wrote: shoefreakbaby wrote: cap1229 wrote: It is the fastest growing religion. @%%% if it isnt a humble statement. It's a fact. Humility plays a very large role of Islam. Spare me. I personally don't give a %#*% about what Islam is about but is it NOT the fastest growing religion? When did I say it was NOT?
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Ballin		#706	[url]	[-]
Registered User Posts: 29 01/29/12 6:03 PM	shoefreakbaby wrote: Ballin wrote: I Love You Silly Putty BACK OFF reported Forever ballin always put tha team on my back doe
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sillyputty		#707	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 3049 01/29/12 6:34 PM	RKO2004 wrote: The reason I said we are subject to change things because humans are the primary reason why so many suffer. Putty you're a google master. Instead of looking up tools to refute my beliefs. Do some serious research for yourself with an open mind and heart. I can't answer all your questions. I wish I could but I don't have the answer to everything. Open mind. Open heart. I've read more pro-christian material than you would believe. Do me a favor and make some suggestions. I wonder if you've actually read any critiques of christian works. Your problem is that you want me to read pro-christian works, while you haven't even read stuff about things outside of christianity or things that challenge it. Why don't you take your own advice. Here is like a fifth of my list of some suggestions I keep a list of: Jawaharlal nehru Alexis de Tocqueville Jean Meslier Karen Armstrong David Hume Shelley Kagan Ariane Sherine Richard Wiseman Timothy Beal Ayaan Hirsi Ali Bart Ehrman Rob Bryanton Daniel Dennett Craig Venter Lawrence Krauss James Baldwin Bertrand Russell Richard Dawkins Anthony Pinn Sikivu Hutchinson Todd Stiefel Sam Harris Christoper Hitchens John Loftus Jerry A Coyne Richard Elliot Friedman Michael Onfray Neil Shubin Al Stefanelli Victor Stenger Penn Jillette CJ Werleman Dan Barker John Allen Paulos Julian Jaynes AJ Ayer Richard Carrier Susan Blackmore Helen Ellerbe Richard Feynman Stephen Hawking Carl Sagan Phillip Pullman Robert Ingersoll Marquis de Sade Denis Diderot Baron d'Holbach Friedrich Engels Alain de Botton Auguste Comte (for you sociology majors) Noam Chomsky A. C. Grayling John Stuart Mill (for the utilitarian in you) Jeremy Bentham John Paul Sartre Harriet Martineau Peter Singer (this guy might make you stop doing everything ) Hector Avalos Before you've asked, this is my personal list that I use to keep up with people I need to check out and works I need to read. I'm about 50-60% through it but I keep adding onto it. Care to make any suggestions? No CS Lewis though...I've read it and its bunk. tkthafm wrote: Again, you claiming them to not be true/convincing etc means nothing. Uh...Yeah it kinda does. It means its not true. Plenty of others, including experts in their respective feels felt otherwise, many strongly enough to convert (already mentioned some). Your "Dr. Moore" had his claims debunked so much that he distanced himself from any work he did regarding islam. I suggest you keep up with your "sources" a little more closely. You aren't convinced. That's fine. There will always be non-believers, but this has no bearing on the legitimacy of the evidence provided.� Yeah it does. If your claims can't be asserted and proven then that inherently addresses a problem with the legitimacy of your conclusions. Your evidence does not, by definition, hold weight. I can't provide a better "single evidence" than the Qur'an itself. Using the Quran to prove the quran. Great. ...how original... It's a incomparable miracle on many different levels. Spare me the irrelevant pictures or oversimplifications of "you cant use the book saying its from God as evidence it's from God" .... because that's not what I'm doing. Thats EXACTLY what you just did. I'm looking at the content (linguistic/scientific/historical etc etc) and then making my conclusion. Linguistics doesn't prove that there is an Islamic version of a god. Some of us still speak hebrew and the ancient languages that predated islam and arabic, does that make their gods more likely to exist? If a book is from God it must be perfect in every way correct ? Thats subjective. We give "god" the qualities of being "perfect" Its entirely reasonable that god may be an "imperfect" entity. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I did my research and found this to be true for the Qur'an. But you assigned YOUR PREFERENCES for beauty and perfection and ascribed it as fact. Thats not an objective and measurable quality. One meter is One meter. We define one meter as the distance light travels in a vacuum in 1⁄299792458 of a second. Thats a standard we use to measure other things. Your standard for "beauty and perfection" is ugly and amorphous in another society. Stop asserting your opinion as fact. There's still an element of faith, but no other religion on Earth can put forth as strong of a case, Billions disagree. Again, your opinion is not fact. to the point where it actually becomes illogical to believe it's NOT divine. Islam might be growing, but there are still way more christians. On that superficial statistic alone, you're wrong. Just look at your inability to provide me with any reasonable alternative origin for the Qur'an. Muhammed got his "revelation" alone (like all other prophets) in a cave. It stands to reason that he wrote it...and took 22...excuse me 23 years to do so. If we take your explanation, how did Muhammad (or those who claimed to be him) write this thing or receive it? did god talk to him? did god use his hand? did god send a message to his brain? If you claim to know how this happened, explain the method used to enact this process. All of the ancient civilizations you mentioned never produced anything anywhere near the Qur'an alone. I have no problem if you disagree with me...but do not LIE. Now you're just crossing the line. There are texts that pre-date and have since come after the quran that are LONGER AND have a more subjective quality of "truth" as evidenced by their faithful followers than anything you can ever assert. STOP ASSERTING YOUR OPINION AS FACT. How could humans have possible came up with it ? HOW DID HUMANS GET TO THE MOON?...WE JUST DID IT! How did we build the pyramids?...WE JUST BUILT THEM! How did the romans have aqueducts?...THEY JUST MADE THEM! How did humans harness electricity?...WE JUST HARNESSED IT! How did humans create vaccines and treat disease?....WE JUST STUDIED IT! THATS HOW. Where do you draw the line between what WE can do and what "god" can do? If you watch this entire lecture with an open mind I don't see how you can still claim otherwise, unless you are�purposefully�refusing to admit you are wrong. I will watch this later this week and let you know everything thats wrong with it. "Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY." --Herman Goering at the Nuremberg Trials Last Edited By: sillyputty 01/29/12 7:04 PM. Edited 4 times.
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Boys Noize		#708	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 3820 01/29/12 6:40 PM	I had a lot I want to respond to but I see Silly Putty was doing work last night How can one possibly think that passages WITHIN the Quaran can be used as EVIDENCE supporting the claim that it is divine? Like, I can't even wrap my head around that. The book you are claiming is holy... is proven to be so because of the book. My mind is blown. Evidence obviously means something completely different to you. MANCHESTER UNITED FC tumblr / portfolio
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NobleKane		#709	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 26087 01/29/12 6:44 PM	wow i dont think ive ever seen a longer post than the one silly putty typed on one of them last pages in this thread. jesus christ(no offense to anyone in here) i would never waste my time typing that much because most likely nobody is going to read it because its too long and its probably something likely stated already in this thread. damn you guys are stubborn For Sale brand new Deadstock Nike Lebron 3 birthday pack size 11.5 $200 shipped via paypal payment sent as gift pm me or email at brownnoble@yahoo.com if interested.
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tkthafm		#710	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 709 01/29/12 6:46 PM	So your explanation for the Qur'an and all it's proven miracles (evidences) is that it .... just happened ? Powerful argument. I don't even know how to refute this logic. Anyway, I'm looking forward to your response to the video though not expecting much more than poor logic, ignoring evidences and bad graphs .gif .jgp images. Civilize the mind but make savage the body
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AKA LONGSTROKE		#711	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 493 01/29/12 6:47 PM	Hey, *HAS GOD* WRITTEN ANYTHING DOWN AS OF YET? Do me a favor, let the world know when it happens!**
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Beware The Underdog		#712	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 777 01/29/12 6:48 PM	sillyputty wrote: How did we build the pyramids?...WE JUST BUILT THEM! HOW?..... Post 777 I see What You Did there GOD. Timberwolves > Spurs. Duncan is ancient, Ginobili is garbage, Parker is a cheater. Franchise Full of Fail.
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shoefreakbaby		#713	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 961 01/29/12 6:50 PM	^^^^ lol
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Boys Noize		#714	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 3821 01/29/12 6:51 PM	NobleKane wrote: wow i dont think ive ever seen a longer post than the one silly putty typed on one of them last pages in this thread. jesus christ(no offense to anyone in here) i would never waste my time typing that much because most likely nobody is going to read it because its too long and its probably something likely stated already in this thread. damn you guys are stubborn I have read everything in this thread. It's an interesting debate. Even the longest post by silly putty only takes a few minutes, if that, to read though. Some topics, like one on religion, SHOULD be thorough. It would be a damn shame to oversimplify something as big as the topic of religion. I really should be using this time to study though MANCHESTER UNITED FC tumblr / portfolio
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sillyputty		#715	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 3050 01/29/12 7:01 PM	tkthafm wrote: So your explanation for the Qur'an and all it's proven miracles (evidences) is that it .... just happened ? Name any proven miracle in the Quran. Any one. That is a legitimate miracle. Just name ONE. If miracles can happen in the koran, then the same miracles happen in the these spiderman comics because you haven't given a clear distinction as to why islam is *so much more valid than* belief in spiderman. Powerful argument. I don't even know how to refute this logic. Logic, in and of itself, has a way of working that way. Anyway, I'm looking forward to your response to the video though not expecting much more than poor logic, ignoring evidences and bad graphs .gif .jgp images. ahem You were the one that said Jews and christians and everyone that came before them were actually Muslims. What a brilliant and profound conclusion. BRB, learning that I'm actually a muslim. "Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY." --Herman Goering at the Nuremberg Trials Last Edited By: sillyputty 01/29/12 7:03 PM. Edited 1 time.
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Beware The Underdog		#716	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 778 01/29/12 7:07 PM	So this Silly rabbit don't want to tell me how we built the pyramids? Timberwolves > Spurs. Duncan is ancient, Ginobili is garbage, Parker is a cheater. Franchise Full of Fail.
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NobleKane		#717	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 26089 01/29/12 7:15 PM	AKA LONGSTROKE wrote: Boys Noize wrote: NobleKane wrote: wow i dont think ive ever seen a longer post than the one silly putty typed on one of them last pages in this thread. jesus christ(no offense to anyone in here) i would never waste my time typing that much because most likely nobody is going to read it because its too long and its probably something likely stated already in this thread. damn you guys are stubborn I have read everything in this thread. It's an interesting debate. Even the longest post by silly putty only takes a few minutes, if that, to read though. Some topics, like one on religion, SHOULD be thorough. It would be a damn shame to oversimplify something as big as the topic of religion. I really should be using this time to study though He's illiterate, can't you tell? Therefore, he does not understand that there are capable people on this forum, then in this thread. Perhaps is Silly wrote in the THE CAT IN THE HAT rhyming style, he'd get it. was a personal attack necessary? For Sale brand new Deadstock Nike Lebron 3 birthday pack size 11.5 $200 shipped via paypal payment sent as gift pm me or email at brownnoble@yahoo.com if interested.
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NjCollector		#718	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 1601 01/29/12 7:20 PM	Sillyputty:longstroke Amirite?
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tkthafm		#719	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 710 01/29/12 7:20 PM	How is this guy still asking for examples, yet claiming to have looked at what I posted ? Refute the first video I posted under scientific miracles... (err, confirmation bias) Spiderman comics (or any other book for that matter) contain the same linguistic/scientific/historical/societal impact miracles as the Qur'an ? Nah. Nothing parallels the Qur'an. Prove otherwise. "Yeah, this book somehow contains all this previously unknown information without a single contradiction/mistake and I can't explain how it came to be... it just... happened... it can't be God... it just happened" Civilize the mind but make savage the body Last Edited By: tkthafm 01/29/12 7:23 PM. Edited 1 time.
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ATGD7154xBBxMZ		#720	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 6721 01/29/12 7:24 PM	tkthafm wrote: Again, you claiming them to not be true/convincing etc means nothing. Plenty of others, including experts in their respective feels felt otherwise, many strongly enough to convert (already mentioned some). You aren't convinced. That's fine. There will always be non-believers, but this has no bearing on the legitimacy of the evidence provided.� I can't provide a better "single evidence" than the Qur'an itself. It's a incomparable miracle on many different levels. Spare me the irrelevant pictures or oversimplifications of "you cant use the book saying its from God as evidence it's from God" .... because that's not what I'm doing. I'm looking at the content (linguistic/scientific/historical etc etc) and then making my conclusion. If a book is from God it must be perfect in every way correct ? I did my research and found this to be true for the Qur'an. There's still an element of faith, but no other religion on Earth can put forth as strong of a case, to the point where it actually becomes illogical to believe it's NOT divine. Just look at your inability to provide me with any reasonable alternative origin for the Qur'an. All of the ancient civilizations you mentioned never produced anything anywhere near the Qur'an alone. How could humans have possible came up with it ?� If you watch this entire lecture with an open mind I don't see how you can still claim otherwise, unless you are�purposefully�refusing to admit you are wrong. With this logic, your defying of rationality, and your inability to provide evidence that the Quran in fact comes from Allah it being divine is just as likely as it being extraterrestrial. So where you say it came from GOD I can say it came from aliens.
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