**..:The Official Jewelry Thread Vol. 11: You get a Jesus piece! You get a Jesus piece! Everybody gets a Jesus piece:..**

[westie]

yes because someone needed money and took a pawn for half the value if that, and never came up with enough money to get said coin back... boom pawn shop owns coin at 4-500 give or take especially if coin is in a bezel then they really don't realize what they have and the savings gets passed onto a good negotiator at the right time of the month. This isn't pawn stars, many pawn shops in the hoods don't know what they have, hence why I check them all.

i'm just saying that this is all madness and predatory. 

i've been to a couple pawn shops just off of theconnect's crazy stories of buying below scrap, and haven't seen any deals. they have a bunch of trash that they want too much money for. a couple have been selling tools that were clearly stolen from a job site.  i respect theconnect's hustle, though.

 

[cabased]

Pawn shops where i live pay 8 - 12/gram for 10k - 14k gold and sell for 25 - 35/gram. 90% of the guys working there are pr**ks too. 

 

[luxurytime]

Isn't jewelry predatory in general? I rather be the predator, or eat with the predator, than be the prey. Same goes for watches you want to pay full retail, go ahead, I respect that, but I rather pick up a pre owned for 3/4 price or less in most cases. You'd be surprised how many 5kwatches will get you a grand total of 3-500 dollars, I've seen people fall out when a pawn broker tells them they're oem diamond movado/michlle etc is only going to get them 100 bucks... it's a cold world

 

[theconnect]

yes because someone needed money and took a pawn for half the value if that, and never came up with enough money to get said coin back... boom pawn shop owns coin at 4-500 give or take especially if coin is in a bezel then they really don't realize what they have and the savings gets passed onto a good negotiator at the right time of the month. This isn't pawn stars, many pawn shops in the hoods don't know what they have, hence why I check them all.

This is accurate. If a coin is in a bezel, it's treated like jewelry and they are negotiable. Pawn shops are absolutely not paying anywhere near spot especially if it's in a bezel.



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i'm just saying that this is all madness and predatory. 

i've been to a couple pawn shops just off of theconnect's crazy stories of buying below scrap, and haven't seen any deals. they have a bunch of trash that they want too much money for. a couple have been selling tools that were clearly stolen from a job site.  i respect theconnect's hustle, though.

Lol, you gotta be patient. I live in Phx but my work travel rotation has me in vegas 2 days a week, phx 1 day, then Tucson 2 days. I travel to El Paso once a month. Southside in Tucson and pretty much any of the pawnshops in downtown El paso right on the border with Jaurez are literally gold mines.

My co-workers call my set up the Narco set up.

 

[luxurytime]

LOL narco set up, I'm in NJ/NY so whenever I'm in the bronx,Washington heights,certain neighborhoods have like whole in a wall pawn shops where the person working barely knows anything more than a simple scratch test for gold purity. Bigger places are usually more difficult unless the boss is present to make a deal, employee's tend to stick to the price on the sticker because they don't know better or work on commish.

 

[robyeezy]

my Jesus piece from @iceboxjewelry baby Jesus 54 grams 14k gold 4.5 carats not gonna lie but I think I got the sickest baby piece around

 

[westie]

my Jesus piece from @iceboxjewelry baby Jesus 54 grams 14k gold 4.5 carats not gonna lie but I think I got the sickest baby piece around

why is jesus a white guy with blonde hair and blue eyes

 

[westie]

This is accurate. If a coin is in a bezel, it's treated like jewelry and they are negotiable. Pawn shops are absolutely not paying anywhere near spot especially if it's in a bezel.



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Lol, you gotta be patient. I live in Phx but my work travel rotation has me in vegas 2 days a week, phx 1 day, then Tucson 2 days. I travel to El Paso once a month. Southside in Tucson and pretty much any of the pawnshops in downtown El paso right on the border with Jaurez are literally gold mines.

My co-workers call my set up the Narco set up.

so what you're telling me is that if you put the coin in a bezel it lowers the value? you can take the coin out of the bezel. especially a screw top.

anyone wants to sell gold for below the spot price? hit me up. 

 

[cabased]

Nobody finds it strange that all these jesus pieces have no eyebrows ?

 

[bale]

 
why is jesus a white guy with blonde hair and blue eyes

well jesus pieces made of gold & diamonds are somewhat ironing (I think, kind of) so why not

my Jesus piece from @iceboxjewelry baby Jesus 54 grams 14k gold 4.5 carats not gonna lie but I think I got the sickest baby piece around

Yeah you right, this could actually be one of the GOAT jesus pieces ever, for serious.  I don't think I've ever seen a smaller version with that much diamonds.  That's really cool that they made one that small too cause not everyone wants to wear a 3 x 1.5 inch gold and diamond piece

 
Nobody finds it strange that all these jesus pieces have no eyebrows ?

Almost all those catalog jesuses have eyebrows and the effect on the design seems to range from OK, his eyebrows all the way to them being this unnecessary detail that throws off the design.  The eyes are completely hollowed out on the most popular fully flooded full size jesus pieces, there's really no room for some eyebrows.  There's a picture from a Jacob & Co catalog from back in the days that a Niketalk posted previously where this design of jesus had some eyebrows and it's fail.  I wont post for now though cause it's already been posted many times and someone just posted something they got that's new and it's heat!

 

[theconnect]

so what you're telling me is that if you put the coin in a bezel it lowers the value? you can take the coin out of the bezel. especially a screw top.

anyone wants to sell gold for below the spot price? hit me up. 

It doesn't lower the price but you need to focus on buying it like its a piece of jewelry. Bezels generally damage the coin. Either due to the clamp or wear and tear.

Pawn shops have a wide margin of area to mark down items. Take advantage.

I want a half kilo chain but i refuse to pay a mark up. I'm diligent about checking the high end pawn shops that I find.

Also, many pawn shops openly post the amount they pay for 10k, 14k, etc.

LOL narco set up, I'm in NJ/NY so whenever I'm in the bronx,Washington heights,certain neighborhoods have like whole in a wall pawn shops where the person working barely knows anything more than a simple scratch test for gold purity. Bigger places are usually more difficult unless the boss is present to make a deal, employee's tend to stick to the price on the sticker because they don't know better or work on commish.

This.

Ask to speak to the store manager and pull out the cash as soon as he walks up. Be ready to negotiate.

 

[luxurytime]

It's not that far fetched to come up on smtg at a pawn shop, if you have the gift of gab, and cash in your hand, anything is possible. I've seen Cubans going for 3/4 price cuz they are purchased for scrap or a loan for less. a little rhodium and polish, and it's new to you.

 

[theconnect]

This is my everyday set up. Everything except the bracelet came from a pawn shop and WAY below melt value.

Center diamond is a 1 karat miners cut. VERY rare cut for those that know about diamonds. I added the baguettes to the sides to match the face.
When I had it appraised the lady said just based on the cut she would date the diamond being cut in the early 1900's. The ring is 18kt gold and from the 70's. I got it from a pawn shop just across the border from Juarez in El Paso. I am positive it belonged to a Narco. dollars. I paid 900 dollars for the ring and another 500 to add the bagguets. The insurance appriasal says its worth 8500.

The Kruggerand pendant, ring and baht chain were all purchased from the same pawn shop in Tucson, but at different times. I bought the necklace first. They got the pendant a month later and it sat in the display for 3 months before he finally sold it to me.

Chain is 5 baht (aprox 78 grams). Retail is $4200, Melt value is $2902. I paid $1900 out the door including taxes
Pendant is 1oz. Spot price around $1250+$250 for the bezel. I paid $1090 out the door including taxes

Store manager called me a few weeks ago and said he had come across a ring I would absolutely want. He bought it, then sold it to me for below spot value on just the coin alone.

I believe the Pharoah was a broach or pen and was converted to a pendant. Either way, it weighs 30 or so grams, has 1 karat of diamonds in 18k.
Paid aprox 500 dollars. Cant remember the exact number.

Not pictured, I have a pair of 1 Karat VS diamond earrings for 600 bucks.

Also not pictured, I have two Breitlings, 1 of which was brand new that were purchased from a pawn shop. I picked up a DLC super avenger that I dont wear because it needs a new coating.

Daily watch is a Breitling avenger chrono

I have a Bell and Ross rose gold watch that Im thinking about getting rid of for a Panerai. It did not come from a pawn shop but was purchased second hand. I paid $4200 for it.

 

[marcmac360]

I need to visit pawn shops more. Nice setup theconnect

Pharoah piece is especially dope

 

[luxurytime]

Really nice stuff man, I'd like to see some of the watches, and I might have someone who can help you out with the DLC.

 

[king of chicago]

No. 5 compared to Frank's version of GLC's looks better without eyebrows.

 

[theconnect]

Here is some other random stuff I have in the collection and a few of my watches.  I forgot I had the Breitling Hercules.  All of these are purchases from pawn shops except the cuban chain and pendant.  

The cuban and pendant are 20+ years old.  My dad gave it to me when I graduated highschool in 1997. Its a 200 gram set up but the chain is 22.5 inches so I almost never wear it unless Im going to the beach since I know theres no chance its coming off or over my head when im in the water.  

The ring from the instagram picture is the ring my son won when his team one the little league world series a few years.  Type Jayson Sowden in google and look at his highlight reel.......

The white gold chain with the black diamond dog tags is still one of my favorites all these years later.  

The rose gold rope with the parasailing jesus gets the most attention believe it or not.  

 

[picklez]

I know there's a lot of hate for LAX here but he did have the best diamond Angel pieces i've seen:

 

[freakydestroyer]

I know there's a lot of hate for LAX here but he did have the best diamond Angel pieces i've seen:

Can't call it hate, people here have given him many chances. He blew it for himself.

 

[bale]

No. 5 compared to Frank's version of GLC's looks better without eyebrows.

yeah this is what I mean and look at # 9.  I mean there's already enough going on with it, looks like some kinda man made of garbage or leaves and the eyebrows don't help at all  #1 & #3 are my fav. pieces of all times I think.  I never realized that a Niketalker had a jesus that was shaped like the GLC one. 


@CAbased, here's a "factory jesus" with plenty eyebrows:

If someone has that with a solid back then that's a pretty heavy piece they have.  I say it looks ok cause the eyebrows aren't rhodiumed or iced out or anything.  This one is cool too:

There are lots of jesuses with eyebrows actually.  Good luck.

 

[cabased]

@CAbased, here's a "factory jesus" with plenty eyebrows:

If someone has that with a solid back then that's a pretty heavy piece they have.  I say it looks ok cause the eyebrows aren't rhodiumed or iced out or anything.  This one is cool too:

There are lots of jesuses with eyebrows actually.  Good luck.

Ya there may not be room for diamond eyebrows but there should be some sort of detail where the brows should be. Just my opinion. 

 

[westie]

the connect, i was inspired by your posts and went to 3 more pawn shops today (in the dc area). 1 didn't have any merchandise out at all for whatever reason and told me to come back tomorrow. i was curious what they would pay for a gold coin. they don't buy them or sell them. if someone came in with 33 grams of 22k they would offer them $850. 1 was more of a money changing place and they would convert currency and bullion. they sell bullion for gold value +5% fee and buy for gold price - 5% fee. last place was a more upscale pawn shop with white people working behind the counter. they had some decent stuff, didn't get to ask what they would sell/ buy for since they were about to close.

 

[bale]

 
Ya there may not be room for diamond eyebrows but there should be some sort of detail where the brows should be. Just my opinion. 

Well with the completely flooded pieces there just doesn't seem to be room for them.  Here's another shot (from this thread, again) of one of those Jacob & Co pieces where there's some eyebrows:

On this design and the one with the pointy beard diamonds seem to be the only thing that might work actually.  And well it just doesn't work IMO.  Looks crowded compared to the others.  It's acceptable and all but it just looks better without, the hollowed out eyes really don't allow for them.  On the other ones it transitions right into what people have called "dimples", those 4 vertical lines which are thorns actually.  The crown hides them on this one for the most part though so I guess they manged to sneak eyebrows on.  The other jesuses like I posted might actually work better for most people anyways cause they don't completely rely on diamonds to make the design work and aren't as expensive as the fully flooded pieces.

 

[bostongeorge]

 

[Proposition Joe]

 
I know there's a lot of hate for LAX here but he did have the best diamond Angel pieces i've seen:

He really did though, and it was heavier than the rest @35 grams

for what its worth he never ripped me off and gave me an easy transaction. with these, those nice baby jesus pieces and the rolexes he had it seems he could've ate well of a niche market. I don't know what happened or why he just didn't make the bad situations right