NT Lawyers Help: Hotel Policies (MARRIOTT?)))

I understand that they have great lawyers and have a @@@# load of money. But I can provide 100% evidence, so what arguments can they use? This ain't acomplex case that involves lack of witnesses, lack of evidence, bloody gloves, etc. It's pretty straight-forward.
 
you wont win.

i could explain it, but legally, you won't win. chiefly because you invited him to your room in the first place regardless of whether or not he was expected to come back, and as such you owed a certain duty to him.

he was not a clientele of the hotel and so they owed him nothing. they bent their own policy to provide what they viewed as a service to you. and to be honest, had they not charged you, one you probably would have requested. them bending their own personal policy means nothing. they HAD to do so due to unusual circumstances. and only after a member of your party had accrued a cleaning debt.

you won't win.

I don't mean to offend you, but I don't take you seriously for the simple fact that your sig has said something about your affection for DJ Bana forwhat seems like over 6 years now.

But I will say that the part I bolded makes very little sense. And as far as "they bent their rules to provide a service to me"
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. I guess I can't reiterate this enough: WHY DIDN'T THEHOTEL SIMPLY CALL ME??
 
Originally Posted by nycknicks105

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at you thinking you'll win. Marriot has GREAT lawyers. At best they will waive the fee and five you complementary free nights, but talk to a lawyer, and see what you can do.
dude isn't trying to win he just wants that good ol "we just wanna make this go away" settlement hush money
 
i see what you saying man, they should have called the cops on your friend, I could probably find your name and number online somewhere and you definitely dontwant me to have access to your room
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they were not looking out for your boy, they only wanted to be able to charge someone for cleaning fees...
 
sorry bro your out of luck...i worked for marriott for 5 years..one thing they did wrong is that they gave your friend an access to the room. they couldve doneother things like kick him out and call the cops and get your friend arrested. if you think your going to get money out of them matter of fact i doubt a lawyerwill take your case since first the amount we are talking about is 250 dollars...lawyers fees and court fees is gonna be more than that. if anything you can dois just talk to the front desk manager or the director of rooms. plus you said they did ask some questions to your friends to connect him to you so thatsprolly why they gave him an access to your room
 
Originally Posted by 22 Deuces 22

you wont win.

i could explain it, but legally, you won't win. chiefly because you invited him to your room in the first place regardless of whether or not he was expected to come back, and as such you owed a certain duty to him.

he was not a clientele of the hotel and so they owed him nothing. they bent their own policy to provide what they viewed as a service to you. and to be honest, had they not charged you, one you probably would have requested. them bending their own personal policy means nothing. they HAD to do so due to unusual circumstances. and only after a member of your party had accrued a cleaning debt.

you won't win.

I don't mean to offend you, but I don't take you seriously for the simple fact that your sig has said something about your affection for DJ Bana for what seems like over 6 years now.

But I will say that the part I bolded makes very little sense. And as far as "they bent their rules to provide a service to me"
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. I guess I can't reiterate this enough: WHY DIDN'T THE HOTEL SIMPLY CALL ME??


i'm in law school. i deal with torts and contracts everyday. i don't care if you take me seriously or not.
 
Originally Posted by jjsrf

i see what you saying man, they should have called the cops on your friend, I could probably find your name and number online somewhere and you definitely dont want me to have access to your room
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they were not looking out for your boy, they only wanted to be able to charge someone for cleaning fees...

How come you seem to understand everything perfectly (in the manner that I'm trying to get my message across), yet a lot of others seem to be clueless?It's not like I'm typing in some crazy language...I feel like everything I'm saying and all my arguements make perfect sense.


sorry bro your out of luck...i worked for marriott for 5 years..one thing they did wrong is that they gave your friend an access to the room. they couldve done other things like kick him out and call the cops and get your friend arrested. if you think your going to get money out of them matter of fact i doubt a lawyer will take your case since first the amount we are talking about is 250 dollars...lawyers fees and court fees is gonna be more than that. if anything you can do is just talk to the front desk manager or the director of rooms. plus you said they did ask some questions to your friends to connect him to you so thats prolly why they gave him an access to your room

There's another thing they could have done before letting my boy in the room, before kicking him out, or before calling the cops. In fact, it would havebeen the simplest thing to do, and it also would have been the most sensible: CALL MY MUTHA @##!$+% CELL PHONE. Secondly, the amount we're talking about isnot 250 dollars. Like I said, entrance to the room opens up a lot of other doors. He could have called the valet and asked to pull-up my car. He could havetaken my car and accessed the crib. It's not about how much the situation cost me, it's what the worst-case scenario could have cost me. And I picturethe worst-case scenario to be that the person who accessed my room could have been a stranger. They could have taken everything in the room, got access to thecar which had more cash and credit cards. Access to the car could have led to access to the crib, and so-on and so-forth.


dude isn't trying to win he just wants that good ol "we just wanna make this go away" settlement hush money
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some people just don't get it though.
 
Originally Posted by Nako XL

Originally Posted by 22 Deuces 22

you wont win.

i could explain it, but legally, you won't win. chiefly because you invited him to your room in the first place regardless of whether or not he was expected to come back, and as such you owed a certain duty to him.

he was not a clientele of the hotel and so they owed him nothing. they bent their own policy to provide what they viewed as a service to you. and to be honest, had they not charged you, one you probably would have requested. them bending their own personal policy means nothing. they HAD to do so due to unusual circumstances. and only after a member of your party had accrued a cleaning debt.

you won't win.

I don't mean to offend you, but I don't take you seriously for the simple fact that your sig has said something about your affection for DJ Bana for what seems like over 6 years now.

But I will say that the part I bolded makes very little sense. And as far as "they bent their rules to provide a service to me"
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. I guess I can't reiterate this enough: WHY DIDN'T THE HOTEL SIMPLY CALL ME??

i'm in law school. i deal with torts and contracts everyday. i don't care if you take me seriously or not.


Okay, so this is what you mean to tell me:

You mean to tell me that just because at some point my boy was in my room, that the hotel staff is entitled to let him in my room again without my permissionand presence? Is that what they teach you in law school? Your reasoning would make some sense if this was the situation: If I showed up to the hotel room at3pm with my boy and checked in, they could say that they saw him check-in with me, and that would be their excuse for letting him in. None of that is the case,and even if it was the case...they would STILL be in the wrong because their policy does not allow anybody access who isn't authorized. Secondly, the staffat check-in was different than the night-staff, so they wouldn't be able to use this excuse anyway.

I just don't see how you can sit there and say I have no chance. The very least they could have done is call me. They let someone who could have been astranger in my room. This person was not authorized to go in my room, nor did the hotel attempt to even contact me regarding the situation. I'm not sayingthat I will win, I'm not saying that I will lose. But how can you say that I have no chance?
 
don't listen to NT's attorneys. Talk to somebody that actually went to Law School, and he or she will tell you if you have a valid arguement and case.
 
Originally Posted by 22 Deuces 22

Originally Posted by Nako XL

Originally Posted by 22 Deuces 22

you wont win.

i could explain it, but legally, you won't win. chiefly because you invited him to your room in the first place regardless of whether or not he was expected to come back, and as such you owed a certain duty to him.

he was not a clientele of the hotel and so they owed him nothing. they bent their own policy to provide what they viewed as a service to you. and to be honest, had they not charged you, one you probably would have requested. them bending their own personal policy means nothing. they HAD to do so due to unusual circumstances. and only after a member of your party had accrued a cleaning debt.

you won't win.

I don't mean to offend you, but I don't take you seriously for the simple fact that your sig has said something about your affection for DJ Bana for what seems like over 6 years now.

But I will say that the part I bolded makes very little sense. And as far as "they bent their rules to provide a service to me"
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. I guess I can't reiterate this enough: WHY DIDN'T THE HOTEL SIMPLY CALL ME??

i'm in law school. i deal with torts and contracts everyday. i don't care if you take me seriously or not.

Okay, so this is what you mean to tell me:

You mean to tell me that just because at some point my boy was in my room, that the hotel staff is entitled to let him in my room again without my permission and presence? Is that what they teach you in law school? Your reasoning would make some sense if this was the situation: If I showed up to the hotel room at 3pm with my boy and checked in, they could say that they saw him check-in with me, and that would be their excuse for letting him in. None of that is the case, and even if it was the case...they would STILL be in the wrong because their policy does not allow anybody access who isn't authorized. Secondly, the staff at check-in was different than the night-staff, so they wouldn't be able to use this excuse anyway.

I just don't see how you can sit there and say I have no chance. The very least they could have done is call me. They let someone who could have been a stranger in my room. This person was not authorized to go in my room, nor did the hotel attempt to even contact me regarding the situation. I'm not saying that I will win, I'm not saying that I will lose. But how can you say that I have no chance?


i agree the hotel shouldn't have let him in your room without contacting you.

but the hotel will just argue that not only was he only there in the first place as a result of your originally bringing him (you arguing that the staff in theevening might have been different and wouldn't have personally recognized him is trivial) but that you also played an instrumental part in his being in thecondition that he was. The court will then ask, do you personally owe any special duty to him and the answer is yes.

The hotel will just argue that they only let him into your room at the end because he was able to provide evidence of his relationship with you, maybe someoneon staff indeed recognized him from earlier, and that frankly they were concerned for his and their own well-fair and decided the safest and most responsiblething to do was to permit him access to your room but do deactivate your door so as to prohibit re-entry in case he tries to come and go. They'll also saythat they intended to alert you to his presence the second you returned and that another reason they deactivated your door was so you wouldn't walk intothe room and be surprised by his presence in case you DIDN'T want him there and he presented a threat as unlikely as that may be. Your whole "hewould have had access to my car and my house at home" argument is weak because they'll just say that they wouldn't have granted HIM access to yourcar or your keys, especially in his condition which is the chief point in this, and there's nothing you could say to prove otherwise. so drop that.

They might then say that in order to avoid any tortious liability that they may incur if they prohibit his access to your room and he goes out of the hotel andgets hurt or even worse dies (in this scenario your lawyer will of course argue that the hotel provided you guys the alcohol and refused him safe haven --because your friend's family will sue you and the hotel for his death) that they decided to do what they saw as the safest thing and just permit him to goto your room and check to insure that he went and stayed there (which im going to assume they did since they saw the vomit in the elevator and hall as well.)

Your only argument will be "Well yes I do know him, and yes I did drink with him, and yes I did know that he was very very drunk by the time we had ourlast drink in the hotel, and yes I suppose I should have known there was a chance that he would try to go back to the hotel to wait for me after the incidentat the bar, and yes if I was with him I would have let him in the room, and no I would not have complained if the hotel had called me when he asked for entryto my room, and yes I agree he did give all accurate information about my identity, enough to prove his association with me, and yes that bellboy did see ustogether entering my room earlier, but I disagree that I am liable for the $250, even though he only knew about my hotel room and subsequently was only thereand vomitting at the time strictly because of my invitation..."

You won't win. Not to say you have "no chance" but in all likelihood, you'd probably never even see trial.
 
I think the re-occurring theme in this thread is that when someone gives you a reason why you're wrong and why you probably won't see any money out ofthis, you completely disregard what they're trying to say as BS.

Just try and get them to drop the 250 charge, and try to let them comp you a couple of nights and keep it moving.

Dude acting like its medical malpractice over here...Amputating the wrong limb and shhhh.
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I think the re-occurring theme in this thread is that when someone gives you a reason why you're wrong and why you probably won't see any money out of this, you completely disregard what they're trying to say as BS.
Aight that's cool, i'll just stop. But I feel that the re-occurring theme in this thread is that people don't seem to quite understandhotel policies regarding protecting your privacy. But I'm going to pursue this and see what happens.
 
Last new years we tore up a room @ the Marriot Marquis in Times Square. I put it on my business credit card and by the morning their was puke all over thebathroom and I wasn't charged for anything. Same goes for MGM Grand Skylofts I was there in August for my birthday we had about 18 people in the roomsmoking piff, ordering room service, drinking until the wee hours of the morning. I ended up puking the next morning all over the rug and I wasn't chargedfor anything but room service.

I would re-read their policies or speak to someone above the manager and tell them that you didn't know this guy(it's your best bet).

Speak to any BS Lawyer, usually consultations are free it would have to be worth the lawyers time, and remember lawyers cost money. Lawyers can cost you$200-$1,000 per hour depending on whats happening so maybe it will cost you less to just pay the $250, or just keep denying you know your friend whocouldn't hold his liquor.
 
it's THEIR policy though.
if they wanted to...they could go into your room, take everything out of it...and then give it to you at the front desk(along with a refund) and kick you out for no reason whatsoever and put someone else in the room
bad business practice?...sure...but not against the law

you're not going to win a legal case on the grounds that they violated their OWN policy.



what you should be doing is looking at your bill and terms of your stay...if you can get them on a contract violation...then you may have a case...but I highlydoubt it.
 
Originally Posted by Dirtylicious

it's THEIR policy though.
if they wanted to...they could go into your room, take everything out of it...and then give it to you at the front desk and kick you out for no reason whatsoever.

you're not going to win a legal case on the grounds that they violated their OWN policy.



what you should be doing is looking at your bill and terms of your stay...if you can get them on a contract violation...then you may have a case...but I highly doubt it.

I'm trying to research these hotel policies, but they are hard to find. But like it's been mentioned before, there's certain privacy that isguaranteed when you rent a hotel room. These include the fact that they are not allowed to give out your room number to anybody (even if someone calls thehotel and says I want to talk to Dirty, they will say that they can only transfer you if you know the room number), and they are not allowed to give anyoneaccess to your room. PERIOD.
 
they are not allowed to give anyone access to your room. PERIOD.
...that's not entirely true
but you are afforded some expectation of privacy when you rent a hotel room.

HOWEVER.. that privacy won't cover your claim though.
the Privacy issue is really geared towards law enforcement and illegal searches.


the counter argument really is going to be... (and it'll a hard one for you to back up).... "sue your boy for the damages/clean-up fees"
 
^ If you booked online I'm pretty sure you have to check a box saying that you read all their policies before submitting payment. If you booked it with anAmEx I would be on the phone with them too.

I asked my friend who is the GM of The Hudson hotel here in NYC and he thinks it's ridiculous! He says if your boy would have puked in his hotel elevator,he would have just called the cops and had him arrested. Not charge you for cleanup fees.
 
What would be your reason for receiving/deserving a big settlement?? Ok...so the hotel made a mistake and broke their own policy by letting someone into yourroom. They made a judgment call. You were not a victim like the McDonald's case. They person in that case burned herself cause the coffee was too hot. Idon't see how you're a victim here. I understand your point about what if you had $$$, jewelry,etc, etc... But you didn't and even if you did youwould only be entitled to the items that were stolen from you and maybe some free stays if you wanted it not millions. It's not like you were raped orassaulted. I just think it'll be impossible to sue when your case is based on "what if".
 
I asked my friend who is the GM of The Hudson hotel here in NYC and he thinks it's ridiculous! He says if your boy would have puked in his hotel elevator, he would have just called the cops and had him arrested. Not charge you for cleanup fees.

What did your boy say about letting dude in my room? Did he say that's a no-no?
 
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