Kanye West is a Genius

Originally Posted by maxb7ty

808's is garbage he really isn't doing anything new, i don't understand why people think this "new sound" is so revoloutionary. kanye has talent but he is wasting his time on this %@%+


it's not revolutionary, I dont know who would say that it is....but I enjoy seeing the evolution of an artist
 
Originally Posted by vctry20

Originally Posted by maxb7ty

808's is garbage he really isn't doing anything new, i don't understand why people think this "new sound" is so revoloutionary. kanye has talent but he is wasting his time on this %@%+


it's not revolutionary, I dont know who would say that it is....but I enjoy seeing the evolution of an artist
how about, a complete rip off of T-Pain?
 
Originally Posted by B Smooth 202

Originally Posted by N3FF 3000

Britney > 'Ye

I can fornicate with Britney, although most people on this board would rather fornicate with Kanye.
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really though? people OD on this argument.

IMO the only thing he did with this "new sound" is lose fans. I could be wrong though.

So who are all these people who to 'fornicate with Kanye' than?
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Well, you for one.... He obviously still has fans, I just said that IMO he lost some. Its really not that hard to understand.
 
Kanye makes garbage music. He is one of the farthest people from a "musical genius" out right now.
 
Originally Posted by digitalO22

Originally Posted by vctry20

Originally Posted by maxb7ty

808's is garbage he really isn't doing anything new, i don't understand why people think this "new sound" is so revoloutionary. kanye has talent but he is wasting his time on this %@%+


it's not revolutionary, I dont know who would say that it is....but I enjoy seeing the evolution of an artist
how about, a complete rip off of T-Pain?


wow what a shocker, a T-pain comparison....you know he wasn't the first dude to ever use autotune right? I can't understand how some people (I dontknow if you do or not) base their opinions on the CD because of autotune
 
Originally Posted by N3FF 3000

Originally Posted by B Smooth 202

Originally Posted by N3FF 3000

Britney > 'Ye

I can fornicate with Britney, although most people on this board would rather fornicate with Kanye.
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really though? people OD on this argument.

IMO the only thing he did with this "new sound" is lose fans. I could be wrong though.

So who are all these people who to 'fornicate with Kanye' than?
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He obviously still has fans, I just said that IMO he lost some. Its really not that hard to understand.
You didn't just say he lost some fans, you said ALL he did was lose fans.
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Well, you for one.
Oh yeah? Word?? I thought it was most of the board though? Where is everybody else? I'm not trying to start @*@%, but it gets old hearing howNT is full of Kanye stans when its not...if anything most threads about dude are filled with people claiming that NT is in love with Kanye, pause, than actualKanye fans themselves
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how about, a complete rip off of T-Pain?
Can you please tell me WHICH T-Pain record sounds like any of the records on 808s? This CD sounds completely different than Pain's work forthe most part. The use of Autotune is the only thing your basing your argument on and even the way Ye uses it doesn't sound the same as T-Paindoes.
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Originally Posted by areyouin729

Originally Posted by N3FF 3000

Originally Posted by samuelturnerr

The reason I made the Britney Spears comment is because she is to me one of the biggest stars in the world everyone knows who she is and everyone hears her music Kanye with his new sound will be there soon


IMO the only thing he did with this "new sound" is lose fans. I could be wrong though.
she lost fans due to her behavior and personal issues and now she is back to normal and people are eating up her comeback

she is sexy again, people who havent bought her albums are buying them again, she is set to do like 500K this week and it will continue to sell as I guarantee that Circus single goes #1 which is her 2nd single

back on the cover of Rolling Stone, lines of perfume, selling out large concerts

People are tired of Kanye and his big cocky ego, Kanye will be his own downfall...it says alot when in a little more then a year's time you sell less than half of what your last album did

if it was anyone else NTers would be trashing the artist but he get's a pass b/c I seriously question who most NTers would choose to smash between Britney and Kanye...word to all you fools wearing shades with lines in them
i'm stating the truth when I say Kanye will never touch Britney as far as mainstream goes as a whole
Agreed but where is the line going to be drawn? Is mainstream really acceptable when both have regressed tremendously?
 
Originally Posted by B Smooth 202

Originally Posted by N3FF 3000

Originally Posted by B Smooth 202

Originally Posted by N3FF 3000

Britney > 'Ye

I can fornicate with Britney, although most people on this board would rather fornicate with Kanye.
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really though? people OD on this argument.

IMO the only thing he did with this "new sound" is lose fans. I could be wrong though.

So who are all these people who to 'fornicate with Kanye' than?
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He obviously still has fans, I just said that IMO he lost some. Its really not that hard to understand.
You didn't just say he lost some fans, you said ALL he did was lose fans.
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Well, you for one.
Oh yeah? Word?? I thought it was most of the board though? Where is everybody else? I'm not trying to start @*@%, but it gets old hearing how NT is full of Kanye stans when its not...if anything most threads about dude are filled with people claiming that NT is in love with Kanye, pause, than actual Kanye fans themselves
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how about, a complete rip off of T-Pain?
Can you please tell me WHICH T-Pain record sounds like any of the records on 808s? This CD sounds completely different than Pain's work for the most part. The use of Autotune is the only thing your basing your argument on and even the way Ye uses it doesn't sound the same as T-Pain does.
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Care to nitpick me any further? The way you stick up for Kanye is flat out gross, period. I'm done with this thread, I'd have a better chance atconvincing John Madden that Brett Favre is overrated.
 
Originally Posted by areyouin729

Originally Posted by N3FF 3000

Originally Posted by samuelturnerr

The reason I made the Britney Spears comment is because she is to me one of the biggest stars in the world everyone knows who she is and everyone hears her music Kanye with his new sound will be there soon
IMO the only thing he did with this "new sound" is lose fans. I could be wrong though.
People are tired of Kanye and his big cocky ego, Kanye will be his own downfall...it says alot when in a little more then a year's time you sell less than half of what your last album did
Realtalk that has already begun, Kanye's approval rating has been dropping quickly this last year, among male and female fans. Everyday I seemore and more people fed up with this cat being a diva, making outlandish statements, and thinking the world revolves around him. There's still a largeamount of fans that blindly support everything he does and says, would have his kids for him, and give him a pass on everything(esp. on nt), but compared to ajust a year ago those numbers aren't even close.



808s might have been #1 in the US but it flopped everywhere else in the world, saw something that said his new album debuted everywhere from 11th to 35th insome countries. So the world isn't supporting this "new sound" either.

'ye needs to get his act together quick or else he'll be lucky if his next album sells 200k its first week
 
The way you stick up for Kanye is flat out gross, period. I'm done with this thread, I'd have a better chance at convincing John Madden that Brett Favre is overrated.
It never fails.
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Why would you infer that I stick up for Kanye for any other reason besides the music he puts out? I'm not trying to nitpick you, rather than point out thebig picture...the whole 'everybody loves Kanye' thing just interferes with the discussion of the music.

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exactly my point
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You #*$%%% are delusional man
 
Originally Posted by CrimsonCloudAttire

Originally Posted by 36 OUNCES

I'll say one thing......He has transcended this rap s' and took it to a whole new level.

He really didn't...but at least he gave yall rap-music-only type people reason to laud him for thinking so.

People act like nobody's ever sung before
People act like nobody's ever used auto-tune before.
Or nobody's ever used synthesizer's before.

I'm a huge Kanye fan, and moreover a fan of good music...but some people need to let his nuts breathe.
QFT.
 
Originally Posted by BrOwNiN187

i knew kanye was a genius the first time i heard college drop out.

i can't hate on the guy for trying something different even if i totally don't feel it. artists are all emo, they won't just make cookies from the same cutter.
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Originally Posted by areyouin729

Britney Spears as a whole is bigger than Kanye West, she is much more marketable to the entire population

NTers need to start realizing NT is small segment and live outside of it as well, her new album is going to outsell Kanye in their respective 1st weeks
Dont compare her latest album to 808's and Heartbreak's record sales, Kanye has said flat out he could care less how many sales he had onthis album. His goal was to get his feelings out and shed a light on what his current state of mind is. If you want to compare her new album to his albumGraduation then I will gladly take Kanye's sales in a second over your girl Britney because that one was clearly out for the sales and is why he pushed itso much more than this one with the whole 50 cent battle.
 
He is a genius. And the way ppl are catching feelings in this thread is evident to that.
 
Kanye's definitely on his strictly business ishh.. I had a feeling he would change up after i heard Drunk & Hot Girls on Graduation.
He told everybody what he was gonna do on Go Hard and just changed his whole swag up.

"tell me what it take to be numba one
i guess its gon be what its gon be
but heres one thing you got to hear
imma tell you like george bush told me
!#!% y'all ni**as im out of here"

He doin it for the money now he dont care about the respect, im not feelin his music like i used to but i cant hate his hustle.
 
Originally Posted by N3FF 3000

Britney > 'Ye

I can fornicate with Britney, although most people on this board would rather fornicate with Kanye.

is this joke still funny?
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and the Andre 3000 comparisons have no base... 808s and Love Below sound nothing alike, the latter being stictly pop.. Andre sold 5 mil WITH the help of BigBoi and the fact that both artists appealed to completely different markets (southern hip hop/pop), not to mention Outkast had a deal with EA Sports which gotthem ALOT of exposure
 
Originally Posted by theUisinthebuildin

Originally Posted by N3FF 3000

Britney > 'Ye

I can fornicate with Britney, although most people on this board would rather fornicate with Kanye.

is this joke still funny?
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and the Andre 3000 comparisons have no base... 808s and Love Below sound nothing alike, the latter being stictly pop.. Andre sold 5 mil WITH the help of Big Boi and the fact that both artists appealed to completely different markets (southern hip hop/pop), not to mention Outkast had a deal with EA Sports which got them ALOT of exposure
Record sales have been on the decline since the Love Below/Speakerboxx days but IMO Kanye has had way more exposure than Outkast ever had. Kanyeis constantly in the news for something whether its him complaining about an award or getting arrested or just saying carzy things like "i want to retireand be a designer". IMO 808's had just as much (if not more) exposure as the love below....its just that The Love Below was better and people liked itmore.
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Kanye did pick up alot of fans with this album but he did lose a huge portion of his older fans with this new sound.
 
Genius when it comes to marketing, but personally I don't consider him a rapper anymore. He's the next Michael Jackson. S*** is goin to his head
 
Originally Posted by CrimsonCloudAttire

Originally Posted by 36 OUNCES

I'll say one thing......He has transcended this rap s' and took it to a whole new level.

He really didn't...but at least he gave yall rap-music-only type people reason to laud him for thinking so.

People act like nobody's ever sung before
People act like nobody's ever used auto-tune before.
Or nobody's ever used synthesizer's before.

I'm a huge Kanye fan, and moreover a fan of good music...but some people need to let his nuts breathe.


i dont think he's talkin bout that. i think hes talkin about what he raps about, how he dresses, and how he acts. its just different.
 
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