So I've come to the conclusion that Big Daddy Kane may just be theee most influential rapper ever.

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Hear me out for a second...

It is my belief that no other rapper has directly and indirectly done more to influence the rap game than Kane.

Besides dropping classic albums and having bars for days, #%*% that itt goes beyond that. Its about his style, his charisma, his presence, that "I'mThat Man" .. "That Ladies Man"..."Nobody's #%*% 'n With Me" arrogance that he brought about everytime you heard him spit orsaw him. Thats what I'm talking about.

He has directly had a hand in cultivate the style of 2 of the games greatest Notorious B.I.G. and Jay-Z, both of who studied Kane from near and far(Jay fromtouring and traveling with him) and Big from just being a huge fan (according to Mr. Cee, can be seen in the fact that in his early vids Big sported the BDKbandana) Both of these artist adopted what would be the trademarks style of their careers from Kane, and in turn soooooooooooo many rappers have adopted theirstyle's way of carrying themselves directly from B.I.G and Jay.

In turn you have your T.I's, Waynes, Kanye's and anybody else who spits the bragadocious raps.

With that said Kane has indirectly fathered the Rap Game... No Disrespect but #%*% Krs, Rakim, Chuck D etc... The game owes its longevity, meteoric rise, andits world wide appeal to Big Daddy Kane.

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He has directly had a hand in cultivate the style of 2 of the games greatest Notorious B.I.G. and Jay-Z, both of who studied Kane from near and far(Jay from touring and traveling with him) and Big from just being a huge fan (according to Mr. Cee, can be seen in the fact that in his early vids Big sported the BDK bandana) Both of these artist adopted what would be the trademarks style of their careers from Kane, and in turn soooooooooooo many rappers have adopted their style's way of carrying themselves directly from B.I.G and Jay.
Thats the thing, he gave them the model to follow, but if Jay and BIG did it better wouldn't that make them more influential? To me it does,but being a 90s baby gives me a different perspective on Kane.
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*typical music forum nter* he didnt influence Kanye! or Jay Z...*goes back to listening to reasonable doubt and eating a dozen donuts*
 
You can easily see his influence on Jay the wordplay the laidback attitude . Kane was dope and pretty much any rapper that tried the smooth approach in someway got it from BDK . And another thing is his flow was versatile he go hard like on "RAW" or give you that "Im so smooth" .
 
Originally Posted by haiti5

*typical music forum nter* he didnt influence Kanye! or Jay Z...*goes back to listening to reasonable doubt and eating a dozen donuts*
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you obviously ain't listened to kane homey.

you sound real dumb right now.
 
I don't know if it was ever said on here before, but it's pretty on point.

I've always felt that rappers wanted to have that 'swagger' like Kane, and spit like Rakim... it just happens that one is easier to fake than theother.

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Originally Posted by itsphillthy

Originally Posted by haiti5

*typical music forum nter* he didnt influence Kanye! or Jay Z...*goes back to listening to reasonable doubt and eating a dozen donuts*
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you obviously ain't listened to kane homey.

you sound real dumb right now.
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Originally Posted by B Smooth 202

He has directly had a hand in cultivate the style of 2 of the games greatest Notorious B.I.G. and Jay-Z, both of who studied Kane from near and far(Jay from touring and traveling with him) and Big from just being a huge fan (according to Mr. Cee, can be seen in the fact that in his early vids Big sported the BDK bandana) Both of these artist adopted what would be the trademarks style of their careers from Kane, and in turn soooooooooooo many rappers have adopted their style's way of carrying themselves directly from B.I.G and Jay.
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Thats the thing, he gave them the model to follow, but if Jay and BIG did it better wouldn't that make them more influential? To me it does, but being a 90s baby gives me a different perspective on Kane.

Nah, because here's the thing (at least what I think)

Big and Jay took Kane's blueprint right? So therefore, w/o Kane, you wouldn't have Big and Jay as the presently stand. Then you wouldn't have theirsons running around today.

So, W/O Kane's influence...Big and Jay may not have had the influence they have today, they in turn wouldn't have affected current rappers like theydo.

Kane's style has affected 3 generations (so to speak) of rappers.

Kane started the lineage, he's the grandfather (so to speak).
 
Big Daddy Kane did influenc B.I.G. and Jay, but that doesn't set him up to possibly be the most influential rapper ever. In an era with the artiststhat you mentioned KRS1, Rakim, G Rap, and lets not forget LL Cool J, Kane's work never did anything to push these other greats out of the picture lp forlp. Kane was a great rapper with style and original delivery, but he's nothing more than a much appreciated building block towards what we are workingwith in today's HipHop.
 
Originally Posted by B Smooth 202

He has directly had a hand in cultivate the style of 2 of the games greatest Notorious B.I.G. and Jay-Z, both of who studied Kane from near and far(Jay from touring and traveling with him) and Big from just being a huge fan (according to Mr. Cee, can be seen in the fact that in his early vids Big sported the BDK bandana) Both of these artist adopted what would be the trademarks style of their careers from Kane, and in turn soooooooooooo many rappers have adopted their style's way of carrying themselves directly from B.I.G and Jay.
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Thats the thing, he gave them the model to follow, but if Jay and BIG did it better wouldn't that make them more influential? To me it does, but being a 90s baby gives me a different perspective on Kane.



This is precisely the reason why I say he is thee most influential. They didn't do it better they just had more eyes on them than Kane had during his day,rap is/was more widely promoted accessible and respected during Jay/Big's era. Thus they brought Kane's style mainstream and thus he is the protypefor what rappers these days aspire to be.

Hence my statement... He is thee most influential rapper.
 
Originally Posted by haiti5

*typical music forum nter* he didnt influence Kanye! or Jay Z...*goes back to listening to reasonable doubt and eating a dozen donuts*
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you obviously ain't listened to kane homey.

you sound real dumb right now.

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Big Daddy Kane did influenc B.I.G. and Jay, but that doesn't set him up to possibly be the most influential rapper ever. In an era with the artists that you mentioned KRS1, Rakim, G Rap, and lets not forget LL Cool J, Kane's work never did anything to push these other greats out of the picture lp for lp. Kane was a great rapper with style and original delivery, but he's nothing

i dont feel like arguing so ill jus agree
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Originally Posted by B Smooth 202

He has directly had a hand in cultivate the style of 2 of the games greatest Notorious B.I.G. and Jay-Z, both of who studied Kane from near and far(Jay from touring and traveling with him) and Big from just being a huge fan (according to Mr. Cee, can be seen in the fact that in his early vids Big sported the BDK bandana) Both of these artist adopted what would be the trademarks style of their careers from Kane, and in turn soooooooooooo many rappers have adopted their style's way of carrying themselves directly from B.I.G and Jay.
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Thats the thing, he gave them the model to follow, but if Jay and BIG did it better wouldn't that make them more influential? To me it does, but being a 90s baby gives me a different perspective on Kane.

I don't get what doing it "better" (debatable) has to do with influence. Jay and BIG doing it "better" still has notinfluenced OTHER MC's as much as Kane's whole MO.

Y'all know I'm not big on the "ever" craziness. A lot of what you said about Kane (minus the lyrics) could be said about Cool J. A lot ofthat could also be said about Rakim (maybe minus the whole "ladies man" steez). I would say that these guys, along with G Rap, Slick Rick, KRS andChuck D built the model for MC's as we know them today.
 
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With that being said, you get no argument from me champ. Good post, however a better post would be to make a comparison between Kane and Slick Rick and whowas/is more influential.
 
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Big Daddy Kane did influenc B.I.G. and Jay, but that doesn't set him up to possibly be the most influential rapper ever. In an era with the artists that you mentioned KRS1, Rakim, G Rap, and lets not forget LL Cool J, Kane's work never did anything to push these other greats out of the picture lp for lp. Kane was a great rapper with style and original delivery, but he's nothing more than a much appreciated building block towards what we are working with in today's HipHop.
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If you are the blueprint for the 2 greatest rappers of all time, I think that makes you more than a building block.
 
Originally Posted by illphillip

Originally Posted by B Smooth 202

He has directly had a hand in cultivate the style of 2 of the games greatest Notorious B.I.G. and Jay-Z, both of who studied Kane from near and far(Jay from touring and traveling with him) and Big from just being a huge fan (according to Mr. Cee, can be seen in the fact that in his early vids Big sported the BDK bandana) Both of these artist adopted what would be the trademarks style of their careers from Kane, and in turn soooooooooooo many rappers have adopted their style's way of carrying themselves directly from B.I.G and Jay.
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Thats the thing, he gave them the model to follow, but if Jay and BIG did it better wouldn't that make them more influential? To me it does, but being a 90s baby gives me a different perspective on Kane.
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I don't get what doing it "better" (debatable) has to do with influence. Jay and BIG doing it "better" still has not influenced OTHER MC's as much as Kane's whole MO.

Y'all know I'm not big on the "ever" craziness. A lot of what you said about Kane (minus the lyrics) could be said about Cool J. A lot of that could also be said about Rakim (maybe minus the whole "ladies man" steez). I would say that these guys, along with G Rap, Slick Rick, KRS and Chuck D built the model for MC's as we know them today.

Yeah, but I think he was getting at the fact that he provided a major influence for perhaps, two of the biggest rap influences of our (at leastmy) generation.

Of course G.Rap, Ra, K.R.S, L.L. have their 'sons' in rappers like Pun, Nas, E, etc....

But do you think the rappers that they infulenced have had as large of an impact as the rappers that Kane did?
 
I've said it before and I'll say it again........BDK is the total package when it comes to rap.

But then again he's my fav rapper ever so take it for what it's worth.
 
His style is very influential...the way he did it is how mainstream rappers try to do it...but in my household big daddy kane was listened to a lot more thanrakiml but as I grew older I could see that Rakim's rhymes and flow was as influential as BDK persona...but that's my opinion
 
Ummmmmmmmm NAH!
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Like I'm younger than most of the cats that got to hear him fresh in his prime, but NAH! I see what you sayin tho, but think about what you'resaying. BDK influenced two of the greatest to do it.....and they in turn influenced a whole generation, but Rakim and 2pac's influence got BDK by leaps andbounds! I wish I had the time, but I know this gon turn out to be a good thread so I'll be back in here to throw in my 200 cents..
 
good thread.... that Cee podcast was ill right? Thats what influenced me to make that Kane thread a min ago....

I love **** like that....I should post more of them joints...its one with Kane...


as for the thread, I cant go all the way there and say he's the #1 (agree with illPhill with ranking everything). Its like Aristotle and all them ethicaltheory dudes: yea, he may been the first one on it, but if a follower who studied the OG and based his **** off that (but revised/updated with his own spin onit) was the one who really had the people living by that mentality, the OG aint considered the most influential....was he (one of) the foundation(s)? goeswithout saying.
 
Hold On I don't want y'all to take my statement about Krs, G Rap, Rakim etc out of context... I fully understand and respect their greatness and allthe influence that they have had on the game.

My point is that as a whole, in terms of package, Kane's MO can be directly observed in so many rappers whom have patented it as a large part of theirpresentation. Like others have said it is specific MO that majority of up and comers identify and attempt to personify. Without BDk the modle for rappers wouldbe drastically different.
 
I know y'all hate the word but this man is the definition of it. SWAG.

Saw him perform at the Brooklyn Hip-Hop festival three years a go and he was the best performer aside from The Roots I have ever seen. His stage presence wasphenomonal. Him and Rakim are responsible for all this $#!% we have right here.
 
Ez... yea that Cee podcast about early big lead to this and yes it was very ill... I love to hear about the person behind the persona it just adds anotherdeminsion to their art. Biggie was that man G

And Free... I believe you, Kane is on the short list of artist I NEED to see before its all said and done
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