WHAT CREW HAS THE BEST ROSTER OUT?

pssh, part of being a fan of someone is KNOWING when they started they decline....

as a GROUP wutang was done AFTER the W

as solo artist:

raekwon only has 1 CLASSIC and one GOOD album (cuban LINX, immoblilarity)

RZA has one GOOD album (first bobby digiital) the rest suck

inspectah deck has one GOOD album (his first one) the rest were meh...

U-god has one GOOD album (redemption) the rest were wack....

GZA has one CLASSIC (liquid swords) one great album (beneathe the surface) and 2 GOOD ones with DJ muggz and his last release

METH has a GOOD but overated debut. and the rest were straight meh...the derrick coleman of rap.

ODB had one CLASSIC (return to 36 chambers) and one good one (ninjaplease)

GHOST has nuffin but classics and greats

CAP only has a great debut, everything else is meh...(yingyang theory) and trash

Masta killa has a great debut....a decade late but great nonetheless wit no set date, but after that...nuffin good.

the ROC ALBUMWISE during their prime had more heat......to deny it is being a salty backpacker/dipset hater/nas fan that never cared for the roc after ether.
 
No one said the Wu hasn't declined, we all know they fell off.

It doesn't change the fact that they have a much better roster than roc, and the classic materials from both; when compared against each other, leansheavily in the favor of Wu.

How anyone can say Roc > Wu, I don't understand, it's just bad taste in music. Jim Jones ? Really fam ?

BTW, I'm not a Wu stan, I'm just a fan of good hip-hop and there's no denying Wu when it comes to that. Backpacker ? what does that even mean ? Inever understand that concept. Dipset hater ? Sure, they are garbage. Nas fan ? Yeah, of his old material, that doesn't impact my opinion on this. You saidroc had more heat "ALBUMWISE" in their prime ?
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Originally Posted by Untitled

pssh, part of being a fan of someone is KNOWING when they started they decline....
as a GROUP wutang was done AFTER the W
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I don't know why you dumb n's cant get it through your heads...Ive repeatedly stated, were strictly talking about both crews during their respectiveprimes. God damn, how many times do i have to say it.

Untitled wrote:
as solo artist:

raekwon only has 1 CLASSIC and one GOOD album (cuban LINX, immoblilarity)

RZA has one GOOD album (first bobby digiital) the rest suck

inspectah deck has one GOOD album (his first one) the rest were meh...

U-god has one GOOD album (redemption) the rest were wack....

GZA has one CLASSIC (liquid swords) one great album (beneathe the surface) and 2 GOOD ones with DJ muggz and his last release

METH has a GOOD but overated debut. and the rest were straight meh...the derrick coleman of rap.

ODB had one CLASSIC (return to 36 chambers) and one good one (ninjaplease)

GHOST has nuffin but classics and greats

CAP only has a great debut, everything else is meh...(yingyang theory) and trash

Masta killa has a great debut....a decade late but great nonetheless wit no set date, but after that...nuffin good.




for the most part you're on point here, a few things wrong and you haven't even touched on a few of the affiliates but OK, go through each Roc artistand lets see what they're working with

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the ROC ALBUMWISE during their prime had more heat......to deny it is being a salty backpacker/dipset hater/nas fan that never cared for the roc after ether.
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That's what it always comes down to with Jay stans when they're loosing an argument

In reality though, Im huge Jay fan, I'm actually not that heavily into Wu-Tang, personally i prefer Ghost and Rae's solo discographies. I'm not oneof you ignorant as east coast dudes, I %@+! with Jay and Nas equally. Im not a dipset hater, i take there music for what it is, some great stuff some OK stuff,unfortunately a cult fallowing consisting of the @*%+ riders of all @*%+ riders was formed and does horrible things for the Dips overall image. Backpack?
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Originally Posted by youngjordan23

And if your really talkin like every album yopu mentioned is a classic
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I'm dead serious. Ask around, the albums I posted are either widely regarded as classics or indisputable classics

Originally Posted by youngjordan23

Typical for someone to bring the age argument. I'm 20 now so i was young during the Wu's time, but that doesn't effect my ears. i don';t wanna here that you had to experience it bull #*#.
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Funny I'm actually a little bit younger than you. Maybe i shouldn't have brought age into it i just think the results would be telling. I feel you though, i get hit with the youn'n +$!% all the time when i discuss hip hop with older heads. I know first hand that age doesn't always mean anything, hell my little brother is 15 and ill take his word over 75% of the people on the internet when it comes to music
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Are you gonna really sit here and tell me that there are nine hiphop albums, yet alone Wu tang Albums better than RD or Blueprint. Not only did you state such
a thing but then you said that jay's other work isn't even Close to these wu
albums do you know how F'n rediculous that sounds.
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I never said that. I listed nine Wu albums and proceeded to say the only Jay album on par with any of them is Reasonable Doubt, i didn't even say any of them were better than RD because i wouldn't agree with that. BP is good album, no more no less, however Ive argued about BP too many times in the last week and im just not up for it. I'll give it to though just for the sake of argument. I'll also give you The Black Album because i love it and i feel it's the next closest behind RD. That still leaves you six Jay albums short of the nine Wu albums i listed.
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you want me to give you AG, Vol. 1-3, and BP2 also?

As for the other albums you listed, the only ones that are classic albums or even great are The B. Coming, The Truth, College Drop Out, & Diplomatic Immunity. I'll admit I haven't heard State Prop 2.
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Right there are seven albums alone you think are great compared to the nine you posted from the wo so to say this isn't even a close discussion is false.the Roc Did it's thing consistently for 7-8 years and have the classic Albums, Singles, Freestyles to back it up.
 
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1. I never said that album for album the Roc wan't close to the Wu, you haven't been meaning to do it but you've repeatedly put words in my mouth
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2. I only posted nine, there's a lot more than that, see Untitled's breakdown for some examples. If you really want to pit each crews album titles headto head we can do that
 
Lets explain what a backpacker is for record...its a Fan of underground rap and is

EXTREMELY ANTI mainstream or anything that has to do with commerical success,

inspite of some of albums ACTUALLY being great albums on their own merit....

Ya tellin me killa cam's 2 albums one the ROC weren't better then most of the lower members of wu?

C'mon.....kanye's catalog (sans that atrocious 808's) isn't better then most wu members NOT named ghost, GZA, Rae?

Jay's catalogue isn't better then mostly ALL the wu members? Only person seein jay is ghostface...and even him being consistant isn't enuff.

And roc's lower members albums are better then WU's lower member's albums...its pretty easy to say that, and that's where the argument is won.

Jim Jones disography is solid, say what u want bout duke but its solid.

Juelz santana's 2 albums are solid

Freeway's 2 albums are solid

Beanie's first 3 albums are great (4th one was bleh)

Killa cam's disography is solid

Young Gunz albums were solid

State prop's first and second album is great.

U Add DJ CLUE's professional series and the Dream team album

and I seriously can't see wutang pullin out anymore solid albums outside what I listed..

Sure u can throw in LA the darkman's first and only, gravediggaz, killa army, shyhiem the rugged child, Theodore unit, etc...but face it, they not matchinthe ROC in their prime.
 
Originally Posted by Untitled

Lets explain what a backpacker is for record...its a Fan of underground rap and is

EXTREMELY ANTI mainstream or anything that has to do with commerical success,

inspite of some of albums ACTUALLY being great albums on their own merit....

Ya tellin me killa cam's 2 albums one the ROC weren't better then most of the lower members of wu?

C'mon.....kanye's catalog (sans that atrocious 808's) isn't better then most wu members NOT named ghost, GZA, Rae?

Jay's catalogue isn't better then mostly ALL the wu members? Only person seein jay is ghostface...and even him being consistant isn't enuff.

And roc's lower members albums are better then WU's lower member's albums...its pretty easy to say that, and that's where the argument is won.

Jim Jones disography is solid, say what u want bout duke but its solid.

Juelz santana's 2 albums are solid

Freeway's 2 albums are solid

Beanie's first 3 albums are great (4th one was bleh)

Killa cam's disography is solid

Young Gunz albums were solid

State prop's first and second album is great.

U Add DJ CLUE's professional series and the Dream team album

and I seriously can't see wutang pullin out anymore solid albums outside what I listed..

Sure u can throw in LA the darkman's first and only, gravediggaz, killa army, shyhiem the rugged child, Theodore unit, etc...but face it, they not matchin the ROC in their prime.
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Well, then that doesn't describe me. I don't hate all mainstream, or what is/was commercially successful, but a lot of what is out now is garbage.Plain and simple.

As for your list, I disagree with almost everything you said, but let's not get into that. Let's do what was mentioned before, Wu-Tang albums vs Roc;side by side.
 
Wow!
Wu Vs The Roc is not even comparable.
I know dudes love to love Jay, but lets be some what rational fellas.
Wu Tang was serious.
 
Originally Posted by iLLscan

Wow!
Wu Vs The Roc is not even comparable.
I know dudes love to love Jay, but lets be some what rational fellas.
Wu Tang was serious.
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I'm sayin'
Among most real heavy hip-hop heads this wouldn't be a discussion at all.
 
Originally Posted by MidEastBeast

I'm down, let's go album for album Wu-Tang vs Roc heat and come out with a winner (wu-tang
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Ok I'll start................ Blueprint Vol. 1
 
Originally Posted by MidEastBeast

iLLscan wrote:
Wow!


Wu Vs The Roc is not even comparable.


I know dudes love to love Jay, but lets be some what rational fellas.


Wu Tang was serious.
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I'm sayin'
Among most real heavy hip-hop heads this wouldn't be a discussion at all.




This is what happens when you talk hip hop with teeny boppers, with the exception of Untiled, i have seen a single constructive response explaining how the Rocin its prime was better than the Wu in their prime.
 
purplehazze96 wrote:
MidEastBeast wrote:
iLLscan wrote:
Wow!


Wu Vs The Roc is not even comparable.


I know dudes love to love Jay, but lets be some what rational fellas.


Wu Tang was serious.





I'm sayin'
Among most real heavy hip-hop heads this wouldn't be a discussion at all.




This is what happens when you talk hip hop with teeny boppers, with the exception of Untiled, i have seen a single constructive response explaining how the Roc in its prime was better than the Wu in their prime.


Because the name ROC still holds weight wayyyyyyyyy after its been demolished, someone says they belong to the Roc today they get respect.........someone says they got signed to the Wu %+**#* like !+# was you thinkin. I'm nit sayin the Wu wasnt the *%$# back in the day, but to compare them to the Rocin their hay day is blasphemy! They dont call Hova, Hova for no reason. He is the God of rap. Hov > Wu. The simple fact that the most reconcilable rapperfrom your click speaks loud to me.... ODB? He's the star of the click and he'd not better then the a Rocs top 5..... Jay, Chris, Beans, Free, Ye
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"He is the God of rap" (talking about jay-z)

There goes any credibility you have and ever will have.
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just goes to show that among real hip-hop heads, this isn't a matter of debate, except for maybe how close roc comes, but nobody is debating who is on topoverall.
 
You right it wouldn't be a discussion with hip hop heads because those who call themselves hiphopheads don't want to let go of the golden era of hiphopand feel like everything put out in that time period is gold. Now hip hop fans would realize that Rocafella had a better un at the top than Wu tang.


nor have i saw anthing explaining how wu tang was batter in it's prime just a long $%% list of albums.
 
Let me break it down for you

Wu > Roc

-Wu made better music (Their list of classics > Roc by a landslide)
-Wu has had a far larger impact than Roc
-Wu's roster is > Roc's, then and now.

Roc doesn't have anything on Wu except for maybe record sales recently. That's about it.

I'm definitely guilty of not wanting to let go of the golden era though.
 
Originally Posted by MidEastBeast

Let me break it down for you

Wu > Roc

-Wu made better music (Their list of classics > Roc by a landslide)
-Wu has had a far larger impact than Roc
-Wu's roster is > Roc's, then and now.

Roc doesn't have anything on Wu except for maybe record sales recently. That's about it.

I'm definitely guilty of not wanting to let go of the golden era though.
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Even though this is totally off my og topic.... name me 1 wu album better then blueprint 1 or reasonable doubt, or american ganster, or thedynasty, or name 1 wu rapper better then young chris!
 
Originally Posted by 51and3rd

Originally Posted by MidEastBeast

Let me break it down for you

Wu > Roc

-Wu made better music (Their list of classics > Roc by a landslide)
-Wu has had a far larger impact than Roc
-Wu's roster is > Roc's, then and now.

Roc doesn't have anything on Wu except for maybe record sales recently. That's about it.

I'm definitely guilty of not wanting to let go of the golden era though.
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Even though this is totally off my og topic.... name me 1 wu album better then blueprint 1 or reasonable doubt, or american ganster, or the dynasty, or name 1 wu rapper better then young chris!
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there are dozens of answers, but sure,
36 chambers and ghostface; I HOPE you didn't think that was a challenge in any way.
 
Even though this is totally off my og topic.... name me 1 wu album better then blueprint 1 or reasonable doubt, or american ganster, or the dynasty, or name 1 wu rapper better then young chris!

I told myself I was not going to entertain this topic anymore, but I could not resist after this statement.
Cuban Linx, Liquid Swords, Supreme Clientele, Enter The 36, Ironman are all better. American Gangster? Now you wildin duke.
Young Chris is cool & all, but really? Ghost, Rae, Deck, Rza, Meth...................
I mean, you just throwing I SH at the wall & hoping it sticks at this point.
No Dipset, but the Wu was truly a movement. They were not to be effed with. Pac paid homage. Deathrow never, ever said a slick word abot Wu when they weretrying to maintain their brand off of beefing with the east. Big closed his mouth when Wu called him out (Meth excluded). Nas wanted to get on their records(and did. They effed with Nas). When Wu started to get on that mafioso I SH, so did Big, Nas & 75% of the east coast.
Wu brought back truck jewles. Wu mashed out Funk Flex & his lame Lugs. Wu made dudes check certain labels after Cuban Linx. Wu made dudes rock Clarks &fleece wears. Mazda MPV's were full of goons because of Wu. I could go on......................
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