JOE BUDDEN vs CHARLES HAMILTON. dont disrespect LL

I agree with Joe but CH's argument wasnt that stupid but since he was crying and waring a pink button up under that sonic shirt he's a lame and i dontrespect anything he said even if he gave me props i say he's mad stupid and smack his %+% with a comb (pause)
 
Originally Posted by Da Future Nike Rep

Another thing, this was just a typical hip hop debate yall please dont get it twisted. I dont think that CH was out of line in anyway. All that he was doing was stating his opinion.

Ok, Canibus did murder LL on 2nd Round KO however LL came back a few times and delivered! Canibus has amazing wordplay ability however that shouldnt even matter in a battle. IMO LL won with that "Where I Belong" track, he destroyed Canibus on that one. Canibus responses after Second Round KO were not up to par IMO so LL won the battle in my eyes!
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Im done here folks
Really?


If some1 beats someone in anyway shape or form or is just flat out superior it shouldn't matter how long they been doing it or so on.
The only variable to measure in a rap battle is how well and skillfully you disrespect your competition.
That's it.
And that's not directed at dude I quoted, its a blanket statement for all those who close their eyes and ears in the name of "loyalty" andtradition.

Conformity FTL
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what the F does actually experiencing ll at the time have to do with him making better music. Point blank period u put LL against Rakim he loses. I don'twannna here that he was the dude at that time +%!%. In that case 50 is better than almost everyone in the industry right now cuz he's that dude.
 
Originally Posted by rwfanatic

Originally Posted by AiRodney23

They straight disrespected his opinion, dapped each other up and walked out.
They're just lookin at the fact that he's younger so they !%#! on him and not take him seriously which is wack.
 
I love when dudes disrespect LL. He been doing it longer then your favorite rapper has lived. He was the king of battles, go do your homework before you pop inthe last LL cd and say he is wack go dig back 10 albums, 9 albums, 8 albums ago. It aint about selling 1 album and mad ringtones. LL is/was and always will bethat dude. Dont disrespect history.
 
Originally Posted by NuMba1KiCkrocka

Originally Posted by NO ESCAPIN THIS

RAKIM>LL
Kool G>LL
Krs>LL


your opinion doesent mean everyone feels that way

True but thats what we call an opinion
I happen to agree with that opinion whole heartedly
Skill is Skill record sales and history have No bearing on Illness
KRS said it best " A Dope MC is a Dope MC"
With that said perspective is relative and I'll have to agree to disagree.

IMO LL is an overrated MC with mediocre rapping ability that has gotten by on the fact that sex sells and the Machine that is Def Jam
He started off well and there are a decent amount of songs throughout his catalogue that i like don't get me wrong but if u honestly believe that a couplehit songs scattered and pepperred throughout a larger catalogue makes up a great artist then you are entitled to your
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-able opinion

Why is that when there is a question of the GOAT, his name is never really brought up?
The majority of the ppl that are named most often are recognized for rapping above their competition, those that followed and those that preceded at anacceptionally high level.
IMO he hasn't been lyrically fit enough to fall into that category.

A part of me wanted to see him get at Jigga just so J could just go in on him. Even if J didn't go as hard as Canibus, he'd more than likely beconsidered the victor and L woulda got a taste of the whole influence/skill backlash.
Ppl want to know if or why Hip Hop is dead and its because Politics and standing has become a part of ppls perception of ill and tainted the labels.
For every ill punchline you have if I have more pull than you, you lose.
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BS
 
Originally Posted by NuMba1KiCkrocka

Originally Posted by NO ESCAPIN THIS

RAKIM>LL
Kool G>LL
Krs>LL


your opinion doesent mean everyone feels that way
basically...

IMO LL is an overrated MC
being overated can get you a couple years....LL has outdid generations...so u gotta be easy with that horrible opinion...
 


being overated can get you a couple years....LL has outdid generations...so u gotta be easy with that horrible opinion...



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Somebody's Salty.
anything can happen with a machine behind you.
I can't remember the last time somebody said "damn you heard son bars."
or "he killed that #%$%."
 
Originally Posted by meth68

I love when dudes disrespect LL. He been doing it longer then your favorite rapper has lived. He was the king of battles, go do your homework before you pop in the last LL cd and say he is wack go dig back 10 albums, 9 albums, 8 albums ago. It aint about selling 1 album and mad ringtones. LL is/was and always will be that dude. Dont disrespect history.


King Of Battles?


He never won any

I respect him but he killed his legacy a long time ago

Canibus ate him
Dropping all those back to back wack albums
crying cause his record sales are down and blaming def jam


dude should have hung it up along time ago
 
Originally Posted by mossman75

Originally Posted by meth68

I love when dudes disrespect LL. He been doing it longer then your favorite rapper has lived. He was the king of battles, go do your homework before you pop in the last LL cd and say he is wack go dig back 10 albums, 9 albums, 8 albums ago. It aint about selling 1 album and mad ringtones. LL is/was and always will be that dude. Dont disrespect history.


King Of Battles?


He never won any

I respect him but he killed his legacy a long time ago

Canibus ate him
Dropping all those back to back wack albums
crying cause his record sales are down and blaming def jam


dude should have hung it up along time ago
CHUCH
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HABERDASH
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Originally Posted by YDBoUnCe

Originally Posted by NuMba1KiCkrocka

Originally Posted by NO ESCAPIN THIS

RAKIM>LL
Kool G>LL
Krs>LL


your opinion doesent mean everyone feels that way

True but thats what we call an opinion
I happen to agree with that opinion whole heartedly
Skill is Skill record sales and history have No bearing on Illness
KRS said it best " A Dope MC is a Dope MC"
With that said perspective is relative and I'll have to agree to disagree.

IMO LL is an overrated MC with mediocre rapping ability that has gotten by on the fact that sex sells and the Machine that is Def Jam
He started off well and there are a decent amount of songs throughout his catalogue that i like don't get me wrong but if u honestly believe that a couple hit songs scattered and pepperred throughout a larger catalogue makes up a great artist then you are entitled to your
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-able opinion

Why is that when there is a question of the GOAT, his name is never really brought up?
The majority of the ppl that are named most often are recognized for rapping above their competition, those that followed and those that preceded at an acceptionally high level.
IMO he hasn't been lyrically fit enough to fall into that category.

A part of me wanted to see him get at Jigga just so J could just go in on him. Even if J didn't go as hard as Canibus, he'd more than likely be considered the victor and L woulda got a taste of the whole influence/skill backlash.
Ppl want to know if or why Hip Hop is dead and its because Politics and standing has become a part of ppls perception of ill and tainted the labels.
For every ill punchline you have if I have more pull than you, you lose.
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BS
you must be a young cat to say some !$! like this. LL just got on the "sexy" type !$! halfway into his rappin. However you wanna callit, LL stayed with good SONGS which a lot of folks try to play songmaking ability. Dope lyrics doesn't equal a good song as Canibus has proved (and Ibangs with old Canibus heavy). LL's longevity in the game is not a fluke. Dude makes good songs. And the battle !$!, when's the last time anyone hasheard a Canibus song as opposed to a LL song? Exactly....

"I'm Bad" & "Mama Said Knock You Out" are harder than anything KRS-ONE ever put out. CH talkin bout K probably never even heard awhole KRS1 album I bet. "Bridge is Over" is that joint tho
 
That kid got verbally molested. Ortiz looked like he wanted to put hands on duke at one point.
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But seriously LL aint +**%$$@ with KRS, it aint even close, and I $+*! with LL.
 
Originally Posted by mossman75


King Of Battles?


He never won any
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You stupid idiot! I understand if you said Canibus beat LL ( I even think it was close) but to say he hasnt won a battle shows me you dont know hip hophistory. Go somewhere and get educated and come back. But enough bickering and more hating on this herd
 
Originally Posted by ScottHallWithAPick

Originally Posted by mossman75


King Of Battles?


He never won any
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You stupid idiot! I understand if you said Canibus beat LL ( I even think it was close) but to say he hasnt won a battle shows me you dont know hip hop history. Go somewhere and get educated and come back. But enough bickering and more hating on this herd
QFT
 
Originally Posted by ScottHallWithAPick

mossman75 wrote:




King Of Battles?






He never won any
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You stupid idiot! I understand if you said Canibus beat LL ( I even think it was close) but to say he hasnt won a battle shows me you dont know hip hop
history. Go somewhere and get educated and come back. But enough bickering and more hating on this herd








you already know most of these cats just speak on impulse, i swear most of the time they know themselves that they don't know whatthey're talking about
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i don't get it though, you got 3 VERY CAPABLE lyricist Royce, ortiz, and buddens ALL cosigining and saying LL wasthat dude and its NOT ENUFF for some of ya
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Originally Posted by ScottHallWithAPick

Originally Posted by mossman75


King Of Battles?


He never won any
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You stupid idiot! I understand if you said Canibus beat LL ( I even think it was close) but to say he hasnt won a battle shows me you dont know hip hop history. Go somewhere and get educated and come back. But enough bickering and more hating on this herd
THANK YOU! These 2008 dudes swear this is hip hop they are listening to today. To say he never won a battle makes me crack up. LL lived offbattles. Go look around before you speak. This is why hip hop today, look at the audience rappers have to make material for. Go read up on hip hop history,hell go listen to some of it then go back to your g-unit mixtapes.

mossman75 your hip hop card has been officially revoked. Go read, figure out why your statement is the dumbest of '08 and comeback here and let the other people know why your statement is false 10x over again. LL has been in more battles then your favorite rapper, and I don't evencare who your favorite rapper is because it doesn't even matter.
 
Ok TELL ME WHAT ME OR POST ME A BATTLE LL HAS WON? Just because dude been in so many battle dont means he won. His ego and the industry co-signing him made itseem like he won he damn sure got raped by Kool Moe Dee�



I did my hip hop history
 
Originally Posted by Da Future Nike Rep

Another thing, this was just a typical hip hop debate yall please dont get it twisted. I dont think that CH was out of line in anyway. All that he was doing was stating his opinion.

Ok, Canibus did murder LL on 2nd Round KO however LL came back a few times and delivered! Canibus has amazing wordplay ability however that shouldnt even matter in a battle. IMO LL won with that "Where I Belong" track, he destroyed Canibus on that one. Canibus responses after Second Round KO were not up to par IMO so LL won the battle in my eyes!


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