Cause you're on, what a fellow NTer would say, "that water" if you think talent wisethere's 25 emcees with more talent than J-Hova. It's ok to play favorites. Cam'ron is my favorite MC but I know he isn't the best. I dont feelBIG at all but talent wise I cant name 10 emcees who did it betterOriginally Posted by MidEastBeast
I still cant believe how hard NT d-rides shawn
- lookin really
Homie you said Violent By Design>Jay-Z's career! Vinnie Paz's mother would hit the ignore buttonOriginally Posted by MidEastBeast
I just named 25 from the mainstream alone, add 25 underground and he ain't even top 50 but i'm giving him the benefit of the doubt and saying he is top 30 skill-wise and maybe top 15 overall with everything considered.
We can easily debate this, but it seems all the NT jay stans get all hurt and have to eitheror "ignored"
and more than half are blatantly wrong, considering Jay's long career, dude is at 12 albums? not considering the best of both world'strash they're all decent to great
10 that you MIGHT be able to argue about. 10 that I'd consider entertaining a discussion about, not 10 definites and throwing 15 other dudesjust makes your judgement look horrible.
& that;s why your opinion is not respected by the music forum. Come in here spitting baseless opinions like it's the gospels. 18/25rappers you put up couldnt go verse to verse with Jay-Z. You put up a verse by Q-tip and I put one up by Jay-Z 9/10 time Jay's verse is better
Finesse Sosa THANK YOU . . . I've been asking you to post this list for the LONGESTand I aint the only one, either you just found it or you've beed being an @sshole this whole timeI'm copying it to my hard drive
ive been looking for this for the longest all year literally my dude,i rememberyou kept wanting me to post it. im keeping this joint in ms-word from now on.
Only on NT can stuff turn sour.dudes be ready to die for what they believe
Man, you seriously don't know NOTHING about HipHop. I can tell you're one of them fronting +#% cats that THINK they know what REAL HipHopis but in actuality, you don't know spit. You're almost like a fake +#% Premo55(for all my older Niketalk heads.)
back in 1994-1995 this was actually a GOOD arguement....for the youngins reading imagine blasting ready to die and cuban linx back to back andtrying to pick a favorite....
son your opinion is voided because its bias on underground music...
Slick Rick
son has ONE classic album and its better then jay-z's career?
masta ace has never made a album better then reasonable doubt...stop it.
big daddy kane? c'mon b....
royce? come on b....
AZ can't even get outta nas shadow talking bout he better then jay-z....
black thought? nahh...
q-tip? not as a solo artist...
talib and mos def's brand of hiphop will never be better then jay-z.....
andre 3000 is good...where's is solo career?
i LOVE mobb deep....but the days of prodigy being better then jay-z stopped in after amerikkka's nightmare
pun was better then jay-z, his career wasn't.
same goes wit big.....
bottomline, too much leftwing "hippie" hiphop is a turn off....
Originally Posted by Untitled
back in 1994-1995 this was actually a GOOD arguement....for the youngins reading imagine blasting ready to die and cuban linx back to back and trying to pick a favorite....impossible.
Originally Posted by Harlem On The Rise
So what's the albums released rule to being the greatest?? I mean when someone dies you can't expect them to drop albums like someone who lived . . . RIGHT?? So BIG dying is held against him?? Hip Hop fans have GOTTA be the dumbest group of humans still allowed to walk this earth . . . You can't help dying, its inevitable, and I guess we've all taken this GOD like approach to judging someone upon death. Just flat out STUPID. He was the undisputed BEST as soon as he hit the scene and remained in that spot since then . . . I mean the music and the impact speak for itself . . . $!%% how many albums he put out, Ns that lived put out FLAT out garbage albums, and get rewarded because they lived?? BIG is batting 1.000 NOone else can say that (Dead or alive) and NOT be lying . . . That's the fact, all personal feelings aside, if your mad a guy that died 11 years ago is STILL better than your fav rapper, then its your fav rapper and his label you should take that up with, and not a man who isn't here to defend himself . . . Ns got kids to feed and yall talkin about he can't be the greatest cause he only had 2 albums?? %%@+ if he could trade the chance to be with his children and say "$!%% rap", he'd do it in a heartbeat. What's the "Being the GOAT of all time, album limit"?? Since some of you stupid %%%++ wanna just write that in to defend some rapper that had next to no career until BIG was violently removed from his thrown . . . I guess that's the only way to defend someone who needed another to die to solidify a spot for himself . . .
Jay
Nas
KRS
Rakim
Eminem
Chuck D
Rae
Ghost
Andre 3000
Tupac
Mos Def
GZA
Pun who was way more lyrical and basically had the same career as Big, just didn't have as much commercial success and wasn't in the process of selling out.
Cube
Prodigy who sucks now but his prime work in Mobb Deep + HNIC > Big.
That's all the people I can think of off top
Big had 1 classic and 1 album where his lyricism greatly declined, he was just a martyr so people make him out to be the greatest ever. That's why rap fans for the most part suck because they don't want change. No matter how good some one is they will ALWAYS be under Big. He was nice back in the day but his body of work is out classed in every aspect by the people I just named.
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