Black Woman Walking vol. black woman walking

This ain't even about their looks.

In the end you could see a reply by some guy from jersey and I understand when he say's the problem is not with the fact that they hollerin at the broads,the prob with the broads
are it's usually somebody they don't want to talk to them that are hollerin at them.

Now if it was somebody they found attractive these so called black women wouldn't have a lot to complain about.
 
Originally Posted by ATLien Seeko

This video is dumb. It's obviously more of a CLASS issue than race. If you have some white girls walking through a trailer park or any poor white neighborhood, and there are guys out, they'll probably get treated the same. Know why? Because the level of manners and respect isnt there mostly due to CLASS! In a more upscale black neighborhood, the chances of this happening is a lot lower than if you were in a hood. Look at where they shot the film! It's in a hood! Some of those women obviously don't have much respect for their bodies physically (overweight) and I think that also has something to do with how men approach. Off the bat, when men see a woman who is physically fit and cares for her body, there's something that automatically goes off in our heads that gives them a certain level of respect that women who are kinda on the sloppy side dont get. Know why? Because she cares enough about HERSELF to keep up her shape. That also can be a reflection of responsibility. Now unles you're a big girl lover, am I right?
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this guy gets it.

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Originally Posted by blazersfan

Originally Posted by ATLien Seeko

This video is dumb. It's obviously more of a CLASS issue than race. If you have some white girls walking through a trailer park or any poor white neighborhood, and there are guys out, they'll probably get treated the same. Know why? Because the level of manners and respect isnt there mostly due to CLASS! In a more upscale black neighborhood, the chances of this happening is a lot lower than if you were in a hood. Look at where they shot the film! It's in a hood! Some of those women obviously don't have much respect for their bodies physically (overweight) and I think that also has something to do with how men approach. Off the bat, when men see a woman who is physically fit and cares for her body, there's something that automatically goes off in our heads that gives them a certain level of respect that women who are kinda on the sloppy side dont get. Know why? Because she cares enough about HERSELF to keep up her shape. That also can be a reflection of responsibility. Now unles you're a big girl lover, am I right?
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this guy gets it.

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i think it goes beyond class. It's on some level cultural. While this type of stuff does happen in lower class white america it's far more prevalentamong lower class black people than say lower class asian people. I'll give you it happens outside of black/hispanic culture but it's not JUST a classissue, it's cultural as well.
 
Originally Posted by ebayologist

Originally Posted by blazersfan

Originally Posted by ATLien Seeko

This video is dumb. It's obviously more of a CLASS issue than race. If you have some white girls walking through a trailer park or any poor white neighborhood, and there are guys out, they'll probably get treated the same. Know why? Because the level of manners and respect isnt there mostly due to CLASS! In a more upscale black neighborhood, the chances of this happening is a lot lower than if you were in a hood. Look at where they shot the film! It's in a hood! Some of those women obviously don't have much respect for their bodies physically (overweight) and I think that also has something to do with how men approach. Off the bat, when men see a woman who is physically fit and cares for her body, there's something that automatically goes off in our heads that gives them a certain level of respect that women who are kinda on the sloppy side dont get. Know why? Because she cares enough about HERSELF to keep up her shape. That also can be a reflection of responsibility. Now unles you're a big girl lover, am I right?
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this guy gets it.

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i think it goes beyond class. It's on some level cultural. While this type of stuff does happen in lower class white america it's far more prevalent among lower class black people than say lower class asian people. I'll give you it happens outside of black/hispanic culture but it's not JUST a class issue, it's cultural as well.
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To an extent. But if you want to take it there, it's regional too. Lower class Asian Americans arent going to act the same as lower class Asians in Asia. But it keeps coming back to class, which is the common denominator.
 
I definitely agree with you on a lot of what you're saying. My only issue is the fact that a lot of unprincipled "young'ins" seemingly condone the misogynistic, damn near licentious, behavior of overt "cat-calling" as acceptable behavior. And also, just because other groups "CAN be JUST as disrespectful" to their women doesn't mean it's OK for my black women to go through the same ishhh--no capt'n.
I've said repeatedly that this has nothing to do with race, and the implications of the vid show it as such. The mention of the woman who hadthe European boyfriend was a nice touch. The mention of the woman who said "I doubt white women go through this" or whatever is quite disturbing, forit gives the impression that ONLY black females go through this type of thing daily. My point has always been that ALL women go through this when they walkpast a group of guys. Locker room talk is reserved for the presence of other men in groups, and when a femal comes by, it incites a near instinctive reactionto become a dumbazz. Seriously. And, like I said, the only thing that may change is the slang terms used.

Obviously, there are two sides to every story. In fact with this, we have three sides (if you include that of the guys). But the only side to me that would be remotely relevant would be that of the woman who hates such attention but is forced to deal with it on a constant basis. Her struggle is the one I'm interested.
And, as such, you are the person the video is trying to reach. It is, however, preaching to the choir. Simply stating a problem exists is nothing.The root of the problem is the issue. Perhaps those who do not feel this is common knowledge may benefit from this vid. I don't think there are too manywomen out there like that. I doubt that if you show this to a hundred women, they won't all nod in agreement at what this states. However, make those womenall of different nationalities but raised in metro areas of the US, and the numbers won't change.

Not trying to be smart or anything but did a White woman really direct this? If so, it's of little consequence anyway. Lets be real. My brothas are very forward.
I got the impression the only white woman in the video put it together. I could be wrong.

I'm in no way trying to belittle you or what you're saying with this question but, "have you lived in the hood before?". The way my dudes refer to females is down right disgraceful and disrespectful. As already pointed out, there are females that crave such attention. But then there are those that don't want such attention and deserve better.
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Seriously? I'm from Detroit, Michigan, which, by the way the "What's the worst city you've everbeen to" thread went is the BIGGEST hood in America. And I'm not talking Birmingham or some other suburban mess, I'm talking about REAL Detroit
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There was no race other than black in my grade level my entire time in school, until I got to college. Now, be that as it may, I worked in school systemsand what not all through school and even today. What I see carries with it no racial prejudice, in terms of the way men objectify women. The only difference IHAVE seen is the perception of the "hotness" of the women. Those that are percieved pretty get preferential treatment and a softer tone, those thatare overweight or percieved as "average" get the BIZNESS. That is in no way shape or form correct, but it happens... regardless of race.

I'm not disagreeing with you, but this vid was akin to me making a video about the way a group of girls acts when a guy walks by. Ifhe's nice looking, he'll get a different tone of voice, a different look, a different vibe altogether than the condescending, sometimes downright evillooks he gets from that same group if he's balding, portly or not that handsome. Don't LET his shoes be scuffed.
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That's not correct, either,but my making a vid pointing that out, then saying its ONLY white women who do it would be TOTALLY off base, and could even be seen as offensive to some inthis ultra-politically correct society of crybabies that we've become.
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Originally Posted by JoeBonnano

Well... My point was that people are slightly more disrespectful toward women that are not quote-unquote beautiful. Why that is, I don't know. But it is across the board, all races, colors, creeds, religions, genders, etc. Everyone in America is already slightly more hostile to a larger or less attractive person.

Now, in regards to the film, all the women were average, IMO. I'm not hating, I'm just stating my opinion. As such, the things said to them would already be less respectful, if only for the fact that the men saying these things don't really care if the women respond or not. Like, if a dime walked past, the men would probably try to use their A-game to approach. However, being that these women were at best 6's, the men felt they had nothing to lose by trying something ridiculous... If the woman comes off as saditty, as some of these women spoke, then the man would go EXTRA hard at making them fell inferior. It's like being bested at an academic question by a known idiot... you'd be furious.

Now, as it goes with the sizing up, I think the women are very naive if they don't think they are getting sized up every opportunity a man gets. I size up a freakin room the SECOND I walk in. Now, I may not be as obvious as some of my contemporaries, but I still do it. That's human nature. The one woman said something about a white guy not turning around to see the white womans behind... Hell, most of the guys I know look at breasts first. I suppose that just illustrates the differences in priorities in terms of sex appeal...

Like I said, this was biased, IMO. She obviously didn't talk to any skeeo's (Although I suspect ol girl with the akademiks hoodie on was fronting), freaks or whatever. That would have been very telling if she had, because those types LIKE that sort of attention, and are probably bollocksing it up for everyone else...
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"I don't see white guys looking ...like...at a white women's butt when they walk by"

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Total B.S. Sounds like they looking for an excuse to say "I don't F with black men.".
 
Originally Posted by lilpro4u

I'm black. I just fail to understand why my borthers holler at chicks like that. Granted their are bops that fall for their foolery, but any decent chick is going to keep it movin'.
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What makes you think they are looking for a "decent" chick?
 
I watched the film and I thought it was biassed. I wanted to hear some input from the men they are referring or just some random men from the street.

Futhermore, I could be wrong but it seems like these black men that they are refering to that are giving them harrassing calls and treatments were"thirsty" type men. The women aren't dimes, but with the economy and the way it is now, you going to have a plethora of broke dudes trying toquench their thirst like Sprite trying to make chitlins' out of pig droppings.

Lets face it---your not going to see the Halle Berry or Beyonce type women complaining about their treatment on these types of so called documentaries. Andthey get the SAME treatment too.

the formula is simple: (broke thirsty dudes w/ nothing to lose) + (unattractive to average looking woman) = Black Woman Walking


First of all, a guy with means, and i mean a man with some means (mainly $) isn't going to talk to these types of women, I'm keeping it100%---Brokeness attracts brokeness. Like many have said in this thread before---they are REALLY upset because the wrong type of dudes are sweating them.It's 2009---dudes must step your standards game up. If men step their standards up, the women will too.


Also, these women have delusions and exaggerations of the grandiose and what is not there, putting extras on what is going on around their situation andenvironment---they have to make up for their shortcommings in other ways--- usually with their cocky, sassy, and hollier-than-thou attitude and persona mainlydemonstrated in the areas where that documentary was filmed (primarily on the East Coast). The internet is FILLED with these types of women surprisingly.

What dude with means is going to put up with that? Do you think a woman of means that has it going on for herself is going to let some cat calls phase her?

Bottom-line---if you are an unattractive female, you will attract copious numbers or broke thirsty men---point blank. That is really what's going on here.It has absolutely nothing to do with race, that is chittlin' scraps. This is more of a geographic socioeconomic issue--- to say it in hoodterms---'them girls be mad cause them po' hoodboys be tryna spit' wit no weed re-up.
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Thats how I see it.
 
I haven't read this whole topic but I did watch the video and I must say that if I see a chick with a big booty it is almost impossible for me NOT tostare. If I am with my boys then I will make sure they see the same thing I see so we can bask in the glory together. It also even harder for me to not saysomething to her or try to get at her because I want to hit that so bad. I know for sure I am not perfect with how I approach females but I have been workingon it to be less offensive. The thing is that some girls like it some girls dont. these chicks can't speak for all black women. Sorry

The chicks in the vid were a bad choice. Not b/c of their looks but b/c they are insecure. One chick said that dudes do offensive things w/o saying anythinglike staring and nodding to their boys.
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There was another part were they said white dudes don't do what black dudes do. I know, they do worse! Whenever I go to the bar with one of my whitefriends I see mad white dudes grabbing chicks and being offensive. I have many white friends who I work with also that harass all the fine white girls(evensome black girls). These chicks is talking on subjects they know nothing about. Of course a white dude isn't gonna say anything to you.......you are ablack chick with an afro!
 
Originally Posted by Dylishis




I swear the youngins watch too much MTV and BET! Seeing Jay-Z with a girl like Beyonce thinking that's how it really works.
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Nahhh, real talk, most dudes can get a girl close to Beyonce's looks if they're game is on point. Maybe a little less pretty and polished, but withmore chest or butt.



Anyway, I understand that the cat calls and ogling is disrespectful but some of these females are complaining about getting hollered at in the streets. To methat's ridiculous and it's contradicting the laws of nature. If a man see's a woman he's interested in, why wouldn't he approach her. Somewomen already claim the don't mess with dudes they meet in the club, so damn, where do you want me to approach you? If I come at you in a respectful manneron 137th and Lenox, why the animosity? If you not feeling me just let me know you gotta man or that you're busy.
 
because it'd be more fun to make a video on Youtube and blame the fact that you're alone on something being wrong with all the man and not lookinternally perhaps on why you can't find a partner, or even furthermore, if it is true then why do you attract this type of guy and attention? I get sickof hearing that, "there's no good guys out there," and especially singled out at black men. There's plenty of us, most of us are just lookingfor better than some bitter, angry, blame her problems on the world type female. Though it is true, some successful/smart dudes do consciously limit themselvesto non black women or women of a particular type/demographic, but that's a whole different topic in itself. I know a few of them though.
 
The only females who enjoy gettin hollared at by guys like that are ones who spread so damn easy

As a guy u see dudes doin wat these girls say all the time goto New York go hang out at the playgrounds bball courts in busy areas and dudes cant helpthemselves.

Same in the projects dudes sit around hollarin at girls all day long shoutin all kinda stuff atem mostly for fun to pass the time n b laughin about it,if ashorty gives them her number its a bonus they gonna have some fun

Ive been around mad guys who just switch when some shorty walks by n all of a sudden act thirsty hollarin n yellin at her like they never seen a woman b4

Ive been with my girl walkin to the subway n had a group of dudes shout out wats wrong with black b cause im white I just keep it movein n she dont care muchabout it but alot of girls and young women feel uneasy.

Me Ill look if a girl is fine ill look but not stood there with my tongue out n eyes poppin out my skull just suttley look after all when u stop lookin u dead

Mad dudes be actin like its a meat market out there n chicks are perading for them and they cant let them walk by without sayin somthin its sad really when u akid in the playgroud its one thing but its likea alotta dudes dont grow out of it.

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To me that's ridiculous and it's contradicting the laws of nature. If a man see's a woman he's interested in, why wouldn't he approach her. Some women already claim the don't mess with dudes they meet in the club, so damn, where do you want me to approach you? If I come at you in a respectful manner on 137th and Lenox, why the animosity? If you not feeling me just let me know you gotta man or that you're busy.

Some women probably don't want to be bothered, for whatever reason. Some have a bad experience, and then they think all guys in thestreet are the same so whether you're respectfully approaching her or not, you're just some dude on the street to them.

Some guys are really cool and respectful. I've had some good conversations with guys when I'm out and about...but I don't give my number out in thestreet because I'm not really comfortable with that, and I'll tell a dude that. I always get that same question though "So, where do you meetpeople?"
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Most guys that I talk to, I meet through mutual friends or in school. When you're exchanging numbers with someone you just met on thestreet, the initial attraction is physical. There's that immediate romantic expectation... and that weirds me out. I don't like it. Plus, you havethose guys out there (even if they have cool personalities and aren't disrespectful) that are just bagging girls on the street just to do it. If you cameup to holler at me, you've probably been doing it all day, everyday.
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Street hollering is just weird, I think. I don't get tangled up in it. I knowpeople make great matches in the streets sometimes but I can't do it! Nothing wrong with it though, if it works for you!


But those old IGNANT #@*%*# just out in the streets doing that catcalling and #+!* just to do it? They already know they're ignorant. Those goon %!@ clownsthat have to be degrading and profane...I don't even acknowledge it.
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Sometimes when I'm feeling goofy I'll make some crazy remark, that'sfun. But most of them are those dumb %!@ sitting ducks, standing on bus stops with a pocket full of weed... about to get scooped up by the cops anyway.
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Too stupid to even know not to draw attention to themselves.
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@ cats concerned more about how 'hot' the girls in the videowere than the issue at hand. could they have used better looking females sure, are the females in the video as horrid looking as described, hellno (but of course on NT a brown skinned black girl isnt as appreciated as a light skinned one
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- i must admit i too used to think this was a 'black problem', and have said many times that ive never seen any other race do this. however afterreading a few replies (mostly those from NYC) i see how im probably wrong.


Originally Posted by MexicanSoul

Whats funny is that it does happen and the sad truth is a lot of women, all races, respond to this.

from a block away, "AYE MA!!!!" and you get the good ole head turn, pause, neck talking for a few seconds, then the stop for you to catch up.
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- and there lies the problem. see, these same women in the video i bet has a female friend or relative the responds to it. if females didnt respond to thisdudes wouldnt do it. plain and simple. dudes only do this because it works. females find comfort in believing it only works with whoes but from what ive seenit all depends on if the girl likes the guy. if he's all bummy then its a "eww, leave me alone", but let it be some dude they like they'lleat that +%++ up.

- so to the females.....talk to ya girl she's the problem. and that goes for alot of common complaints today females have about men and the waythey're treated. females hold the key. if they say no....thats it there is nothing you can do about it. if females hold their standards higher on who theygive the {} to these cats will tighten up.


- its funny because its the inverse with me. i purposely dont approach females or even attempt to be polite with a 'hey', because most times when theysee me coming you can tell from the expression on thier faces they're expecting some 'hey baby' type steez, turning they nose all up in the air. ijust keep it moving like they aint even there.
 
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