THUG MOTIVATION 101 = CLASSIC ALBUM!

Originally Posted by henz0

Without a doubt... So many road trips running this #!%# back over n over
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haha man you to.. get on the highway throw that tm 101 and just die even if you didn't have beats in the back the factories were sounding nice
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def. ah classic imo
 
Originally Posted by henz0

Without a doubt... So many road trips running this %%%% back over n over
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Car rides are the best with 101. If there's any CD you need to listen to in a nice car with a nice system, it's GOTTA be this .. This dominated myfreshman/sophomore year of high school.
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I think there are albums that can be on the line. Soe people dont call Game theory a classic, I think it is , it's debatable. Same here.
 
Originally Posted by Untitled

Mw2889 wrote:
I'd love to hear someone say this isn't a classic.
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it isn't....compare to a ACTUAL classic like get rich, or reasonable doubt, or ready to die and it pales in comparison.








Basically, 101 is NOT a classic. That term gets rapped like no other these days, half the time its usage isn't even justified.

But You're fooling yourself if you don't think Lets Get It, The Inspiration, Trap Or Die, hell even Recession aren't phenomenaltrunk music...If you can't $+!# with Jeezy in the whip, i probably can't $+!# with you.

Originally Posted by Untitled

thats the problem with the south, thing ya call classic its just "meh..its cool"




our classics are universally accepted as classics.
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maybe in the last few years, but in reality the South has spit out classics throughout the 90's though...that's generally the problem with NYers and alot of other East coast dudes in generally, don't know !@@+ about a lot of that good southern music
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Originally Posted by asu334


You cant act like this aint a classic and I can get a whole bunch of people who will tell u that Ready to Die and Reasonable
Doubt was a cool album but it didnt:


1.Make me go buy some 12s so I could hear every bassline and trumpet in the beat like TM101 did


2.It didnt have me coppin the black locs and rockin all black like some ghetto goth steez like TM101 did


3. It didnt have me rockin the snowman like TM 101 did


4. It it didnt have me answering every question by sayin YEAAAAAAAA like TM 101 did
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but you're probably dumb %%+ yong...that or you southern heads really are incredibly delusional...i try to stick up for you guys because you facemore prejudice than any other region but God damn...how old are you 18-19?


Ready to Die and Reasonable Doubt were merely "cool albums"? That's it, really?

Ready to Die didn't have dudes goin out to buy top of the line stereos for their cars?

3. I wouldn't be proud of rockin the snowman, i guess in the south that !@@+ was wet?

4.
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adlibs, i guess.

Originally Posted by asu334


that whole 2003-2005 Jeezy movement is probally the
biggest/quickest movement by a solo artist EVER in Hip Hop
Thug Motivation 101 is in the TOP 50 rap albums of all time
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Um, no on both accounts...

Originally Posted by asu334

Im sure the west coast aint over there sayin Reasonable Doubt is one of the best album
ever either, NY dudes need to get out of they shell ( generally true )
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what? says who? As far as i know most heads will put RD top 15-20 at least

Originally Posted by asu334


I came to this conclusion when my cousin from NY swore to me that ATCQ was a better rap gropu than Outkast
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I was like O I Get It Now
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Uh, ATCQ and Outkast are both widely regarded as a couple of the best groups of all time, having a preference or declaring one is better than the other ishardly outlandish at all.

Originally Posted by nocomment6

. Some people dont call Game theory a classic, I think it is , it's debatable. Same here.
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Comparing 101 to Game Theory, naw im just not ready for all of that...If you're just trying to raise the point that there's gonna be a difference inopinions i feel you.
 
Classic. No doubt.
for me, Thug Motivation ended an era.
Jeezy closed the door on "I lived that life" rappers
dont even spit that +%@# on the mic. let that genre go. Jeezy touched up on that, merked it, and left it for dead

Everything released after TM with the same sorta content falls way short. He ruined southern hip hop for me, cuz Now I expect so much more outta these !%%!%*and i end up disappointed
I cant even rock with Tip the way I used to.
and I aint sayin Jeezy is the greatest or some dope lyricist, but for a Album, he put it together as well as anyone can, and he held my attention.

I cant even explain how much play this gets to this day.
for me, this CD was like hearing "The Infamous..." at an older age with just a lil different perspective

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"I %$%* on *+%%@%..........even when I'm constipated I %$%* on *+%%@%"
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, constipated, thats what we're rappin about?
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if you repeat yourself...on a wack line... you're wack.
this dude is 1 step below mixtape rappers with the punchlines, just a few steps above with song making(notrapping).

I like how everyone plays out "punchline rappers" but all Jeezy does is have better beats, built in chorus'es, adlibs, and even WORSE punchlines.
that makes for good club music, good temporary music, yes... but dude is anti-lyrical.

THIS MAY BE A HIGHLY ENJOYABLE ALBUM BUT A RAP ALBUM NEEDS TO BE LYRICAL TO BE A CLASSIC
 
Originally Posted by ThunderChunk69




this dude is 1 step below mixtape rappers with the punchlines, just a few steps above with song making(not
rapping).
I like how everyone plays out "punchline rappers" but all Jeezy does is have better beats, built in chorus'es, adlibs, and even WORSE punchlines.

that makes for good club music, good temporary music, yes
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Because the rest of those punchline rappers suck at actually making albums. All the things you listed attribute to highly enjoyable music being put out timeand time again from Jeezy

Originally Posted by rwfanatic

ThunderChunk69 wrote:
THIS MAY BE A HIGHLY ENJOYABLE ALBUM BUT A RAP ALBUM NEEDS TO BE LYRICAL TO BE A CLASSIC
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I agree.



I definitely don't, it just so happens that the vast majority of true classics are lyrical.

Originally Posted by Agthekid

Hood Classic-Yes

Hip Hop Classic-No
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pretty much my stance on it
 
Originally Posted by purplehazze96

Originally Posted by Untitled

Mw2889 wrote:
I'd love to hear someone say this isn't a classic.
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it isn't....compare to a ACTUAL classic like get rich, or reasonable doubt, or ready to die and it pales in comparison.
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Basically, 101 is NOT a classic. That term gets rapped like no other these days, half the time its usage isn't even justified.

But You're fooling yourself if you don't think Lets Get It, The Inspiration, Trap Or Die, hell even Recession aren't phenomenal trunk music...If you can't $+!# with Jeezy in the whip, i probably can't $+!# with you.

Originally Posted by Untitled

thats the problem with the south, thing ya call classic its just "meh..its cool"




our classics are universally accepted as classics.
Click to expand...

maybe in the last few years, but in reality the South has spit out classics throughout the 90's though...that's generally the problem with NYers and a lot of other East coast dudes in generally, don't know !@@+ about a lot of that good southern music
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Originally Posted by asu334


You cant act like this aint a classic and I can get a whole bunch of people who will tell u that Ready to Die and Reasonable
Doubt was a cool album but it didnt:


1.Make me go buy some 12s so I could hear every bassline and trumpet in the beat like TM101 did


2.It didnt have me coppin the black locs and rockin all black like some ghetto goth steez like TM101 did


3. It didnt have me rockin the snowman like TM 101 did


4. It it didnt have me answering every question by sayin YEAAAAAAAA like TM 101 did
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but you're probably dumb %%+ yong...that or you southern heads really are incredibly delusional...i try to stick up for you guys because you face more prejudice than any other region but God damn...how old are you 18-19?


Ready to Die and Reasonable Doubt were merely "cool albums"? That's it, really?

Ready to Die didn't have dudes goin out to buy top of the line stereos for their cars?

3. I wouldn't be proud of rockin the snowman, i guess in the south that !@@+ was wet?

4.
laugh.gif
adlibs, i guess.

Originally Posted by asu334


that whole 2003-2005 Jeezy movement is probally the
biggest/quickest movement by a solo artist EVER in Hip Hop
Thug Motivation 101 is in the TOP 50 rap albums of all time
Click to expand...


Um, no on both accounts...

Originally Posted by asu334

Im sure the west coast aint over there sayin Reasonable Doubt is one of the best album
ever either, NY dudes need to get out of they shell ( generally true )
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what? says who? As far as i know most heads will put RD top 15-20 at least

Originally Posted by asu334


I came to this conclusion when my cousin from NY swore to me that ATCQ was a better rap gropu than Outkast
indifferent.gif





I was like O I Get It Now
Click to expand...


Uh, ATCQ and Outkast are both widely regarded as a couple of the best groups of all time, having a preference or declaring one is better than the other is hardly outlandish at all.



Im sayin it all depends on what standards you use to call an album classic. See the difference with alot of NY heads and southerners is thatsoutherners treat hip hop like any other music. Lyrics are important in music but not really if the song has good music and the hooks are memorable and thewhole album has a theme to it thats unique

Take Earth Wind and Fire they werent "lyrical" like a Hip Hop purest would say. They just made good music. Nobody siill can tell me what the heck17.5 means (Im talkin about the EWF) they just tell me it doesnt matter it probally means nothing but the music is good.

I just think that too many people look into hip hop lyrics for knowledge, they have books for that Im tryin to be entertained. I mean thats what music isright? Entertainment? I seen a lot of the albums NT cause classics. I check them out and some them are so hard to get into because the music is lackin.

"I used to hit the kitchen lights cockroaches everywhere/I hit the kitchen lights now theres marble floors everywhere" You cant tell me that lineisnt Notorius Bigiest if Chris Wallace would have said it it would go down as one of the best album starter lines in history. Im not comparing jeezy to Big Imjust sayin you people act like alot of what jeezy says is so out of the league of what BIG said they was both talkin about crack.
 
^I'm pretty sure we're arguing the same side for the most part.

I was the first to say an album doesn't HAVE to have great lyrics for it to be a classic, we've also been making the same points about the overallentertainment level of Jeezy's music.

I see where you're coming from with the EWF reference but i think lyrics are one of those things that substantially deviates rap from other genres ofmusic, because of that it's appropriate that significance is placed on lyrical value and content.

As far as people looking into rap for "lyrics and knowledge," people bring up that point all the time, especially when discussing underground hiphop. Let me say this, i don't know anybody who truly looks to gain knowledge via a rappers lyrics
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Regardless, a lot of people need to understand that the entertainment argument and the idea of being entertained by the music we listen to goes both ways.It's all subjective, different individuals will have different taste. Some of us are entertained by a Jeezy or a Young Dro while at the same time some ofus are "entertained" by lyricism, creativity, and thought provoking #*!*.

It just so happens that if someone is more into the latter they're labeled as "backpack" or an elitist while the other is criticized for notlistening to "true hip hop, real music" etc
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