INSTYLESHOES = FRAUD or just EXTREMELY SLEAZY??!!

It's absolutely no excuse for that and no excuse should be made for them.

I don't get it. No matter how swamped you are why does it take months to send money out? I'm sure they have a record of every transaction as well as software to show sale price, consignee's cut and their cut. How hard is it to look at that data and pay people what they're owed?

Writing a check, putting it in an envelope and adding a stamp takes a couple minutes. Same thing with sending a paypal payment. Why should they even take a month?

So, (until proven otherwise) ISS got your money from kicks months ago... Using it as a small term loan, as they prioritize your entitled funds for other things?

The "second biggest internet sneaker community" only has 2 "full-time" employees working their bread and butter?

But, now its public. So, now its an issue. Thus, now action(s) will take place.

Interesting...

To bad you're not in the states, I'd give you my lawyer's number personally...

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this whole situation sounds shadier than slim.


and instyleshoes only has 2 employees allegedly but the mods on their forum are quick to lock or delete any posts that are negative towards them.


"Go ahead and judge by the color of my skin
I'll rain threes on you like Mike on Portland
Backpedaling, shrug, like it ain't no thang
I dunk on fools like Pippen on Ewing"

You don't like ISS, so dont go to it. Simple as that.
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Sorry to hear that bro, I personally consign my shoes with Flight Club/Vintagekicks and everything has been smooth sailing so far, I get a phone call 24 hours after something is sold within the store/site and I can pick up my check within 72 hours after the shoes are sold. I've sold a few shoes through them and have been very happy with their service. Hopefully people can ship shoes to them in the future to cosign.

Instyleshoes should pay you INTEREST for the funds they are holding of yours or lessen the commision they charged you. This is obviously a breach of contract, and I would threaten with legal action so they can the get the ball rolling faster.

^It's a shame that steve or anyone official from instyleshoes.com not a mod from there corny messageboard has not posted a answer on here so far.Both of the fulltime workers are by no means shoe heads.They are working just for the money.Might aswell be a manager or a salesperson at Footlocker.
"Nike Continues To Control The Marketplace So Diligenty" John Shanley Financial Analyst.

damn that sucks but either way.... welcome to NT

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at dudes with this "NT VS ISS WAR" type @#%$... Its the internet get over yourself

Now that Steve has put a response on ISS I think things will be fixed soon.
Good luck getting your money back.

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THAT @#%$ IS THE WORST...

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OG SNEAKA HEAD SINCE THE 80'S
<------MIAMI-VICE Those are my boys. the dynamic duo of the 1980's.
TEAM-OLDSCHOOL "YOU GOTTA DO THE TIME"

I have been selling shoes via consignment on Instyleshoes.com for about 6 months now and only my last payment took 13 weeks or so AFTER the sold date to get...

When I signed up for the program the timeframe was 2-4 weeks to get your money...NOW we are looking @ 3 months???

Can ANYONE...including STEVE...explain to me how MORE money coming in via consignment is making it take LONGER to get the money out?

Shouldn't the fact that you are making MORE money with the program make it quicker and easier to get the money out? It seems as though the account which you would draw the money to pay people would be that much larger and thus EASIER to pay...PLEASE explain...

I really would like to continue to be part of the program and I have many more shoes that I would like to sell through Instyleshoes.com, but 3 months a LONG TIME to wait...

JM

^^^^^ So true. The first time I sold some of mine on there, it said 2-4 weeks, but took like 5-6 to get my money, and some of my shoes sold the first day they were put on the site, makes one wonder. If someone buys your pair with a credit card I wouldnt think it take no longer than a week for Instyle to get that money. That being said, those were your shoes sold, not someone elses, so there for, it should take no longer than 3 weeks to get a check for that pair sold.

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Thats unacceptable, sue or at least inquire with a lawyer

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Honestly, you should really think about doing this.
I mean all the evidance is on your side and I know of few people (like myself) who are getting started at selling kicks, and would love to take their spot near the top of the game.


For Sale

Thanks everyone for the supports!

Well, even with all that being said, I (somehow) still think ISS is legit in the sense that they (probably) wouldnt steal anyones money. And that Id eventually get my pay, which could very well be more than half a year after the sold date!! But would that really be the issue anymore?? Isnt the bottom line that they have essentially breached the contract??! Their consignment page clearly states the to wonder if they treat oversea (selling) customers differently...

To jmadidas2001, I completely agree with you and would love to hear the NEW explanations from Steve on here as well! (After all, I learn about their consignment program through his post on NT!!)

Best regards,

GTR290

KMKosu420 have u ever been on their website. Can you honestly say you've been in the forums and know what they're about? How can you try and say all that about them sayin you "hate frauded websites". Instyleshoes.com is a great website. And for all the people who are saying its fraud. Here is the definition for fraud.

Main Entry: fraud
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin fraud- fraus
1 a : any act, expression, omission, or concealment calculated to deceive another to his or her disadvantage; specifically : a misrepresentation or concealment with reference to some fact material to a transaction that is made with knowledge of its falsity or in reckless disregard of its truth or falsity and with the intent to deceive another and that is reasonably relied on by the other who is injured thereby

fraud

Deception carried out for the purpose of achieving personal gain while causing injury to another party. For example, selling a new security issue while intentionally concealing important facts related to the issue is fraud.

1. They didn't decieve you in ANY way. Steve clearly said they were really busy and just needed more time to get things done. It wasn't like they said they'd send you the money in a certain amount of weeks and lied about it. If they weren't busy they would have sent the money when it was supposed to be sent.

2. There was no "falsity" or "reckless disregard", he posted an apology to those who were having to wait longer. So he let you know the situation.

Steve already apologized and there isnt much to do about this except wait it out. Like the other guy said who sold some of his shoes on ISS he said it takes patience as well. Im sure you will get your money in the end anyway.

Oh and also in the second defition it says

Deception carried out for the purpose of achieving personal gain.

There was NO deception. And what would they have to gain from this? Like another person said they are the 2nd most respected shoe community so why would they try and steal your money? Obviously you would just go and sue.So there was NO personal gain either. Cuz you honestly think Steve or any of the other people on their staff are shady to steal? Then maybe you should go and see what their website is REALLY about because you dont know enough about it |I

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They said 3 weeks then 6 ta 10 weeks and told him 12 max and it's now been 16.

How the hell is that not deception?

^^^ Did you read his first post on page 1?

Of course they frauded him, 1. they lied about the amount of time it would take him to get his money. 2. What they gained was the ability to play with his money and use it.
3. they continually kept deceiving him on the amount of time it would take to get his $. Where in his story does it not seem like they are frauding him?



For Sale

figures something like this would happen with iss. i mean their motto is "we rape people".

^ Best SN I've seen in awhile! Truth!!
"I'm puttin' holes in ya body like the pause in a party/ Then drown your open sores with Bacardi/Crazy as it seems, my mind is every thug's dream/Kill 'em clean and leave the murder weapon at the crime-scene."

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False.

ISS gave this individual, and every other consignment seller, the explicit impression that payment would be made within a few weeks. Had he known that payment would take half a year AFTER ISS already received (and apparently SPENT) payment, I sincerely doubt that he - or anyone - would have done business with them. Thus, he's been deceived for ISS' gain. Bad business? You'd better believe it. Foolish? No question. They have a lot to lose by perpetrating such an amateur stunt.... yet here we are.

If you believe that Steve's "heads up" (delivered after the fact, no less) somehow nullifies his obligation to adhere to this initial expectation, your argument is deeply flawed.

Simply because the seller was told he'd have to wait a few weeks for payment does NOT mean that he can wait until the end of time and it's still not considered "fraud."

"Hey man, sorry about the delay.

Things are just CRAAZY here lately. I don't watch over the business anymore and my two part timers just can't handle it so.... that's your problem. We'll pay you as soon as the mag turns a profit. Til then, we need all the cash we can get - including yours. Some of my employees don't even get paid, so what chance do you have?
Stay patient!

Kisses, I$$."

"See, there's no fraud! He explained everything!"

R-iiiiight...


15 weeks stands in bold defiance of every reasonable expectation. Its that simple.

If you sold a shoe through our buy/sell forum and you didn't receive payment for 3 weeks you'd cry fraud. This individual has waited over 4 MONTHS now. On top of that, what would happen if the buyer stopped responding to your email?

If you buy a shoe from ISS, would they wait 15 weeks for payment? Would they just "loan" you the shoes over that period? "Hey Steve, I have such a huge sneaker collection that I hired my idiot cousin to manage all of my acquisitions. I'm a businessman on the go, so I can't get caught up in all that. Anway, I'm sure he'll pay you in due time. Right now, he's just really swamped. What can I say? I'm a busy man, and it's tough for my little intern to keep up with all my wheelings and dealings. These shoes are great, by the way. I've broken a lot of necks over these past five months. I'll pay you back in another 3-4 weeks, promise. You know I'm totally good for it."

You think that'd fly?


This is grimey by any standard.

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Actually, that's pretty much what happened. When listing his item, he was told to expect payment within what, 4-5 weeks, right?


Anyone remember the retiredjordans situation from a couple weeks back? He didn't even attempt to "make things right" until he was publicly called out and exposed. That seems to be the case here as well. They've been content to sit on this problem for 5 months. If something happens in the next few days, I think we'll all know why.


Let's get real, volume has NOTHING to do with the reason behind this delay. How hard is it to cut someone a check? If they queue their payments, wouldn't this guy be first in line by now?

ISS sold something that didn't belong to them. They received payment in full and rather than IMMEDIATELY turning around and sending the shoe's owner his rightful share, it seems they've been "unable" to send that money....

Why?

Surely they've just had his money sitting around all this time, right? After all, it's not THEIR money to spend - it belongs to the seller. Hmm...

What's it gonna be? Is it that you CAN'T send the money (because you don't have it) or that you WON'T send the money?

Either way, now that ISS has their money, getting the seller his share doesn't appear to be much of a priority. How's that for respect?

No matter how you slice it, it's rotten to the core.


They used to have a decent rep, and I even referred people to them in the past, but obviously I won't be doing that in the future. Clearly, the consignment service has been grossly mismanaged. Steve's even admitted that he's understaffed. Whose problem is that? Should it be yours? Should it be mine? No, it's his problem and he'll have to live with the consequences.

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I'm glad they are doing something now [regardless of the odd fact that it took a public post to get something done].

However, as JM said, it doesn't add up.

Where is the money going? They get the money deposited into an account. All that has to be done is distribute out the loot. And like he said, with more shoes (re: more money) coming in, that just makes it easier to get the money to pay the people. Maybe I'm missing something there, but it seems like something ain't right.

Anyway, I hope things get settled and am glad something was done.

babydill.

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