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thats scary... b/c that could have been me, one of my family members, one of my friends, one of my fellow NT'ers.
Raw Cell Phone Video Of Fatal BART Police Shooting
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I hate government
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wow....thats the first I have seen/heard of this.....that cop needs to go to jail for a long time.....RIP to this man and god bless his family....
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I really think he mistook his gun for taser. They carry them real close to eachother on those belts. Still I don't see why he would use it. Nonetheless.RIP
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this basically just confirms what every eyewitness said about the incident
OPD was trying real hard to get a hold of that footage
I seriously doubt the officer meant to draw his gun. Do yall really think that anybody, let a lone a police officer would intentionally shoot a man in coldblood on New Years Eve with 50 witnesses watching and recording the incident? !*!%+
Regardless this ++%$ is disgusting. If he doesn't get convicted of manslaughter there will be hell in the streets of Oakland. I wonder how they'regoing to try and justify this. It was a "mistake," a mans life was taken, the officer responsible needs to pay the consequences.
This kind of @!*$ makes me think yall have it way worse than us, In all my years living in Oakland I've never experienced or heard of a cop doing some @!*$like this, it seems like every time i turn around NYPD shoots a **#!%
OPD was trying real hard to get a hold of that footage
I seriously doubt the officer meant to draw his gun. Do yall really think that anybody, let a lone a police officer would intentionally shoot a man in coldblood on New Years Eve with 50 witnesses watching and recording the incident? !*!%+
Regardless this ++%$ is disgusting. If he doesn't get convicted of manslaughter there will be hell in the streets of Oakland. I wonder how they'regoing to try and justify this. It was a "mistake," a mans life was taken, the officer responsible needs to pay the consequences.
Originally Posted by onewearz
this is why hate cops, @!%!+#* cowards. they killed my friend in nyc the same way , 16 times in his back face down and they walked
i hate cops with a passion, all cops.........
This kind of @!*$ makes me think yall have it way worse than us, In all my years living in Oakland I've never experienced or heard of a cop doing some @!*$like this, it seems like every time i turn around NYPD shoots a **#!%
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RIP. The cop made a tragic mistake. That was a mistake. Nobody in their right mind, especially a cop, would shoot a man on the ground with over 100 witnesses.With that said, he is an idiot unqualified for the job he was given. Who is at fault here? The state of California, obviously there is a deficiency in thehiring process within this department.
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Originally Posted by sn00pee
R.I.P. but.....
why did dude even struggle and resist. I swear for the life of me I never understand why people do this, and then mistakes like this happen.
Hmmm, maybe because 2 cops were on top of him, knee in his back and being pushed down while ALREADY handcuffed? Reading is Fundamental.
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^^ thinking the same thing. how you gonna call them thugs and was it confirmed that these guys were part of the fight that happened in the trainstation? Not familiar with BART cops, are they equivalent to MTA or Transit cops in NYC? If they arent under the same jurisdiction as Bay Area Cops, then whyissue them guns instead of tasers?
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^They're "real" cops by law/definition but their training is pretty lame, they're training and standards are upheld by the states "PeaceOfficer Commission"
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Disgusting, RIP.
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its a shame. if this wasnt caught it camera, it wouldnt be a big deal and it'd be stuck out there only on bay local news.
and who cares if hes only a "bart" cop and not in a city department. he's trained to carry a weapon. he puts it on everyday, he should rememberwat side its on.
involuntary my @$#. a taser doesnt weigh 4 pounds.
and who cares if hes only a "bart" cop and not in a city department. he's trained to carry a weapon. he puts it on everyday, he should rememberwat side its on.
involuntary my @$#. a taser doesnt weigh 4 pounds.
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Officers carry tasers on their left, guns on the right. A 2 year should definitely know that. R.I.P . to the victim.
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Coming from someone with an uncle and a father that did time for murder...I can say that is false. Prison is hell.
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Real talk. Sittin' in federal prison for the rest of his life with people who've been put away, themselves, by cops is probably the mosttraumatic experience and ultimate punishment he, a cop, could ever encounter. Think about the daily treatment he's going to receive from the other inmatesbecause of his 1) occupation and 2) his conviction. I guarantee he'll be wishing for the death penalty while he's in there.
We live different lives, I'm not taking it personally..you have your views, I have mine.
In short, BART Police =/= any other Law Enforcement. They're lucky to have guns, in a sense. I use that lightly given the grave circumstances surroundingthis case.
There are a few videos and accounts of what happened, like you, I wasn't there, either. I've heard accounts he was ziptied then released and viceversa. I don't think it has ever been definitively certain what exactly happened. That's why I'm sayingintent goes a long way here.
We've heard that there was a fight ON the train. BART police broke up numerous altercations prior to this one at 2am. They recovered pistols from theothers, I'm sure they were on edge. Not making excuses, but I'm saying I can see where a mistake could occur. Should it have? Hell no. But could ithave? Yes. I don't believe in trying this case in the court of public opinion and saying this officer should die if he made a mistake. The mistake costone person their life, a horrible tragedy; but if he seriously NEVER intended to inflict fatal bodily harm then its a whole new arena.
I don't think BART police are the type to set someone up, because frankly I don't think they're a corrupt force like your typical municipalities.Obviously I could be wrong, but since they usually deal with homeless, people skipping fare, and intoxication, I couldn't imagine there's a lot ofupside to corruption for a transit police.
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That's sad right there, I hope this officer gets hunged..yeah i said it. Will it solve anything? No.
But who cares right..he should be killed too so His family will go through what Grant family are going through.
But who cares right..he should be killed too so His family will go through what Grant family are going through.
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dude you can see that he took his gun out..what you call that..hitting someone accidentally is not doing it on purpose..so if i know where my gun is
and i go for it and point it at you and clearly shoot you, u will call that accident.
When I see you standing and I clearly drive your way and hit you, will that be an accident too? If my car brakes fail for some reason, then yeah that will bean accident. You can't compare that to someone shooting an innocent person at a that range..hence he had other cops with him so what's the excuse? Tellme.
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No, but your example doesn't make any sense.
The officer was conscious of what he was about to do. He pulled his gun, aimed, and fired. He could've aimed somewhere else to incapacitate theindividual if he felt that he was a threat. Leg, arm, whatever. It may not have been a perfectly calculated decision, but it certainly wasn't anaccident.
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If this were a mistake, you would not want to be punished by death. If any of us were in his shoes, imagine how hard it would be right now to prove that it wasaccidental.
It honestly looks like he grabbed his head with both hands after he fired like "what the $##@ did I just do".
It honestly looks like he grabbed his head with both hands after he fired like "what the $##@ did I just do".
Like I've said throughout this entire post - INTENT.
If he intended to kill the guy, or even shoot him with his gun...he should be sentenced to death.
However, like it's been reported and stated, if he honestly thought he was grabbing a taser, its a whole new level of circumstances.
Like the car scenario. If someone purposely aimed to hit you with a car, those are totally different circumstances then someone who didn't. Right?
If he intended to kill the guy, or even shoot him with his gun...he should be sentenced to death.
However, like it's been reported and stated, if he honestly thought he was grabbing a taser, its a whole new level of circumstances.
Like the car scenario. If someone purposely aimed to hit you with a car, those are totally different circumstances then someone who didn't. Right?
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Life in prison would definately be worse than the death penalty. To me it seems like the death penalty would be the easy way out for the cop because in jailhe'd have to suffer a lot more.
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That's right..are they suppose to have the taser and their gun at the same spot? I don't know.
I mean an officer should know what to do..there was no pressure or what so ever on him. He wasn't by himself to say he felt so threatened
by the dude..
I mean an officer should know what to do..there was no pressure or what so ever on him. He wasn't by himself to say he felt so threatened
by the dude..
