Is It A Stretch To Say Dre 3000 Is Better Than Nas? Why?

not a stretch at all - i can relate to 3 stacks more and i think he is one of the most creative emcess of all time

he's number 1 on my list and nas is 4th
 
Originally Posted by MidEastBeast

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Dre isn't seeing Nas, sorry.
You picked two pretty average Nas featured verses. You couldn't just say Eye for an Eye or Verbal Intercourse?

And to everyone who says Andre 3000 is overrated, could you please explain that to me? 3 Stacks is definitely my favorite MC ever.
 
Originally Posted by D723

Originally Posted by MidEastBeast

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Dre isn't seeing Nas, sorry.
You picked two pretty average Nas featured verses. You couldn't just say Eye for an Eye or Verbal Intercourse?

And to everyone who says Andre 3000 is overrated, could you please explain that to me? 3 Stacks is definitely my favorite MC ever.

He's overrated cause alot of cats put dude in a top without a solo album

Q-Tip & Pharoahe Monch have solo albums and been part of groups and i wouldn't put them near a top five, and i think they are better than andre 3000
 
Originally Posted by mossman75

Originally Posted by D723

Originally Posted by MidEastBeast

^ Affirmative action, Fast Life

Dre isn't seeing Nas, sorry.
You picked two pretty average Nas featured verses. You couldn't just say Eye for an Eye or Verbal Intercourse?

And to everyone who says Andre 3000 is overrated, could you please explain that to me? 3 Stacks is definitely my favorite MC ever.

He's overrated cause alot of cats put dude in a top without a solo album

Q-Tip & Pharoahe Monch have solo albums and been part of groups and i wouldn't put them near a top five, and i think they are better than andre 3000


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where the hell did this 3000 obsession come from..dudes jus hopped on his balls after those features he did the past 3 years..im not sayin he aint nice..butcant nobody paint a picture like esco. no isssh he is a hypocrite..we all are..2pac was the biggest..even big was a hypocrite. ppl are like human
 
Originally Posted by Illuztrious

Originally Posted by N3FF 3000

Originally Posted by Illuztrious

3000 is the only rapper I respect being compared or even surpassing Nas.


What about Jay?
Nah.

Jay was never really a deep dude to me. Nas & 3000 are storytellers...artists. Jay just bigs himself up. Every song is me, me, me. That's not inspiring.


Truth.

I don't even put Jay in the same category as these two, these dudes are true artists/MCs. Not that I don't respect Jay, cause he's one of the bestrappers ever, but he's not messing with these two on a creative/artistic level.

Anyway, I'm a huge Nas fan, but as far as RIGHT NOW, I'll say 3k is light years ahead. Nas is on the decline and 3k is probably at his peak. But forthe record Pre-Illmatic/Illmatic/IWW Nasty Nas > damn near any artist you could possibly mention.
 
Originally Posted by iHateTimeDotCom

Originally Posted by mossman75

Originally Posted by iHateTimeDotCom

u think pharoahe monch is a better rapper than 3k?

ban this dude...
He is

bar for bar Monch would run circles around Andre

u on that dust...


If anything you are on "that dust"

Monch on Stress: The Extinction Agenda > anything andre has ever done (lyrically)
 
Originally Posted by iHateTimeDotCom

im not takin an L cuz im not 3k... or a fan like that... but i cant tolerate monch at all... his flow is terrible...

his flow terrible
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really have you ever heard a Monch song


dude has one the best flows in rap
 
That's nice but doesn't change the fact that lyrically Monch is a lot nicer than Dre, who gets mad overrated on NT.

Stress: The Extinction Agenda literally changed what lyricism meant when it dropped.

No way is he better than Nas either.
 
Originally Posted by The Natural Mystic

But I feel like Nas when featured on other people songs he doesnt excel as much as he does on his solo albums where Dre shuts his collaborators down. But I feel like Nas when featured on other people songs he doesnt excel as much as he does on his solo albums where Dre shuts his collaborators down.

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Are you kidding me? Verbal Intercourse> Any verse dre has dropped on anything, Eye for an Eye? Give it up fast? It's Mine? Live N_ rap? live at the BBQ? Fast Life? calm down? Music for life? That's off the top but are you guys serious? He shut these tracks down against these guys in their prime. Lets be serious here.

Dre is in my top 10 but he ain't seeing Nas.
exactly what i was going to say
 
^That classic right there


Monch got bars for day



Comprehend the guidelines
My chest out chinchilla all relaxed on the sidelines
I'm so famous
Understand, New York City respects my game like Joe Namath
And I protect my name like your @%#+
In prison, y'all don't hear me
Y'all don't listen
Y'all just wanna shine
Y'all just wanna glisten
Floss, knowing that the soul is still missing
(Who am I?) I am the poetical pastor
Slave to a label but I own my masters
Still get it poppin' without artist & repertoire
Cause march is a monarch only minus the A&R
When my brain excels, your train derails
Pop s__ make you feel +The Clipse+ like pharell

You will feel me
You will admire
(My) Struggle
(My) Hustle
(My) Soul, Desire



My book is a ovary
The pages I lust to turn
My pen's the penis
When I write the ink's the sperm

Desire, the fire that ignites the torch to burn
This is not rocket science
This easy to learn
My mic's the gavel
When I talk courts adjourned
Respect, even if you were ??? you couldn't earn
I embody antibiotics
You are infected with germs
Rap's fatally ill, please get concerned
Players, pick turns to play, get burned
I color commentate the game like chick perms
This is the moment of truth for my opponents and liars
Talk is alone invoke the emotion of black choirs
Fire, you don't wanna get burned like Rich Pryor
Move back, who's that, there, the live wire
You will feel me
You will admire
(My) Struggle
(My) Hustle
(My) Soul, Desire
 
Originally Posted by NO ESCAPIN THIS

Thats how I feel a lot of these NY gods would be considered mediocre if they were from the south
Ignorant kids like you run rampant . It`s sad that you would even consider region as a factor in greatness . All these dudes that are labeled "gods" is because they`ve made classic music , which I'm sure you haven't even listened to. This ain't no filler bullissh man ... Get outta of your outhouse and live a lil , lil nukkkka.
Yea why u mad? Maybe u need to get out of your "outhouse" as u put it cause you must be blind or ignorant if u dont realise half thetime people mostly these backpacking holier than thou I get alllllll my knowledge from rap lyrics shun anybody with lyrics below the Mason Dixon line asaverage or ok. Are you telling me if Killer Mike, Goodie mob collectivley and solo, Phonte, Witchdoctor, Devin, UGK among others wouldnt be consider elite ifthey were from a different region? While a rapper like Camron, ATCQ, Mobb Deep among others wouldnt be looked at as yo they aight
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if they was from the south?

I speak my mind Im from the hood I aint scared of yall
 
Lol cats be killin me on here talkin Nas is GOAT.... he aint even the best out his hood..... HOVA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Originally Posted by purplehazze96

Originally Posted by realtalkitsDC

inspektahdeck wrote:

^^^^^Scarface,Luda,TIP,Cee-lo,UGK.................(dont get me wrong ya boy is nice but ya be giving son too much props)
Well you can take Luda and TIP of that list without even taking another look. Cee-lo could never hang with 3 stacks in anyway and same goes for
UGK. So that leaves Scarface and i cant see him being better then 3 stacks or even big boi at that in any aspect of hip hop.


It's obvious that your opinion is biased, are you ready to declare yourself a 3 Stacks stan? Cee Lo has "hung" with Dre on numerous occasions, maybe you just aren't aware of this?

Cee Lo isn't the lyricist that 3 Stacks or Nas are but all this talk that Cee Lo would get bodied are ludicrous in the truest sense of the word. Like I said Mr. Green has gone bar for bar with Dre a few times.

Scarface is more of a legend then Andre is,
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and if he (3000) heard you talking about Face like that he'd probably tell you to quiet yourself. Dre is a top tier MC, so is Scarface, and there are certain aspects of the game that Face is definitely better at. Hell UGK too, there's less of a case to make for Pimp C and Bun but regardless they've never been embarrassed by Dre or Big Boi.
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Not quite, as a matter of fact i think Nas is the betterof the two and in no way would scarface be "embarrased" by either of them i just said in my opinion i dont think hes better then either members ofoutkast. Thats not saying that hes (scarface) not one of my favorite southern artists of all time its just my opinion.
 
Ok so you didn't say scarface couldn't hang with 3 Stacks but you did say Andre and Big Boi are better than him in every facet of hip hop. Believe, Iunderstand that's your opinion I just don't agree. Oh yea and Cee Lo is closer to seeing Dre lyrically than Scarface is.
 
Originally Posted by purplehazze96

Ok so you didn't say scarface couldn't hang with 3 Stacks but you did say Andre and Big Boi are better than him in every facet of hip hop. Believe, I understand that's your opinion I just don't agree. Oh yea and Cee Lo is closer to seeing Dre lyrically than Scarface is.
Agreed its just a shame that a lot of other people wont be able to realize this because he goes the singing route a majority of the time.
 
3 stacks is better than monch

that dont mean monch aint nice...

and people like rap for different reasons - if you enjoy rappers who talk about moving pyramids with their mind and blah blah, cool

i prefer emcees i can 1. relate to or 2. have unique creativity ( which are the andre 3ks or phonte's of the game)

Andre produces as well - he is earthtone 3 if you didnt know -
 
Originally Posted by flossb15

3 stacks is better than monch

that dont mean monch aint nice...

and people like rap for different reasons - if you enjoy rappers who talk about moving pyramids with their mind and blah blah, cool

i prefer emcees i can 1. relate to or 2. have unique creativity ( which are the andre 3ks or phonte's of the game)

Andre produces as well - he is earthtone 3 if you didnt know -

well andre raps about spaceships

Spaceships dont come equipped with rearview mirrors
They dip as quick as they can
The atmosphere is now ripped
Im so like a Pip, Im glad its night
So the light from the sun would not burn me on my bum
 
Originally Posted by mossman75

Originally Posted by flossb15

3 stacks is better than monch

that dont mean monch aint nice...

and people like rap for different reasons - if you enjoy rappers who talk about moving pyramids with their mind and blah blah, cool

i prefer emcees i can 1. relate to or 2. have unique creativity ( which are the andre 3ks or phonte's of the game)

Andre produces as well - he is earthtone 3 if you didnt know -

well andre raps about spaceships

Spaceships dont come equipped with rearview mirrors
They dip as quick as they can
The atmosphere is now ripped
Im so like a Pip, Im glad its night
So the light from the sun would not burn me on my bum
Yea thats a metaphor for not looking back
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Pharoh actuallyjust raps about Pyramids
 
Originally Posted by asu334

Originally Posted by mossman75

Originally Posted by flossb15

3 stacks is better than monch

that dont mean monch aint nice...

and people like rap for different reasons - if you enjoy rappers who talk about moving pyramids with their mind and blah blah, cool

i prefer emcees i can 1. relate to or 2. have unique creativity ( which are the andre 3ks or phonte's of the game)

Andre produces as well - he is earthtone 3 if you didnt know -

well andre raps about spaceships

Spaceships dont come equipped with rearview mirrors
They dip as quick as they can
The atmosphere is now ripped
Im so like a Pip, Im glad its night
So the light from the sun would not burn me on my bum
Yea thats a metaphor for not looking back
grin.gif
Pharoh actually just raps about Pyramids
what song has Monch ever rapped about a Pyramid?
 
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