Jadakiss Has Great Potential But Shows Very Little

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Ok i understand the whole little bad boy thing but three 2 albums in a 8 year period is disgusting. Sheek and Styles have drop 3 albums and they haven'twait too long drop their albums. I mean come on Kiss 2001 Kiss tha Game Goodbye then Kiss Of Death 2004. Then Last Kiss 2009 that's horrible. When Kiss ison his beast he does his thing but he doesn't have too much too show for it
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Sheek last album was sooooooooooo slept on.

i know kiss album not gonna come nowhere near as hard as that joint.

jada the fave but styles and sheek make better albums than dude.
 
jada is washed up... that simple. nice flow...


but not marketable at all. he cant sell records, and thats what its all about.
 
Originally Posted by never wear them

jada is
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washed up... that simple. nice flow... makes him top 5 dead or alive without being able to sell....
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I remember when selling records wasn't a big issue....what happened to the game and the love for the art??!!! Kiss is >>>>> 95 % of thelames in the game hip hop is just not the same!!
 
While I respect your love of the art, as I myself love the art more than life itself, Jada can't be top 5 DOA, can he? He's gotta be gassed by now.It's been 10 years AND SOME, and dude still isn't really that big, nor is he all that versatile. He's done what he's always done fairly well,but that hasn't gotten him far at all. How can EVERYBODY'S else's opinion outside of NY be irrelevant? The fact is... if he really was top 5 DOA,it wouldn't have had 10+ years worth of difficulty appealing to the common rap fan. Isn't that what being the best means-- there's a consensus onyour appeal, right? that would be like T-mac being considered the best IMO. As much as I really liked T-Mac in his prime, he was nothing but a scorer. Jada hasALWAYS scored points with catchy wordplay, but never put up wins in the sales column or added and diversity to his flow. Jada may be top 5 DOA as far as NYlegends go, but he's nowhere as well received as (and I'll just pick 5 people....) Jay-Z, Big, Pac, LL, or Nas. Damn, and they're all from NY too.I guess he's not even top 5 DOA in his home state. Let it go... [/deflation process]
 
pssh, ya some ungrateful cats....
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jadakiss on ANY given verse is better then ANYBODY's favorite rapper, that includes Nas and Jay-z.

he's flat out THAT dangerous on feature.

homie's only has 2 albums BECAUSE puff has handcuffed these guys for about 3/4th of the lox's career

im CONFIDENT enough to say that if jadakiss flow with your favorite rapper on a track 9.9999/10ths of the time he outshined em.

and for people complaining bout his flow...why fix something that ain't broke? look at lloyd banks..changed his flow and now he's damn nearunlistenable to me.
 
Originally Posted by Untitled

pssh, ya some ungrateful cats....
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jadakiss on ANY given verse is better then ANYBODY's favorite rapper, that includes Nas and Jay-z.
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selling opinions as facts FTL...
 
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you ain't EVER gotta worry bout son now goin in on tracks.......his track record speaks for itself.
 
Originally Posted by DearWinter219

While I respect your love of the art, as I myself love the art more than life itself, Jada can't be top 5 DOA, can he? He's gotta be gassed by now. It's been 10 years AND SOME, and dude still isn't really that big, nor is he all that versatile. He's done what he's always done fairly well, but that hasn't gotten him far at all. How can EVERYBODY'S else's opinion outside of NY be irrelevant? The fact is... if he really was top 5 DOA, it wouldn't have had 10+ years worth of difficulty appealing to the common rap fan. Isn't that what being the best means-- there's a consensus on your appeal, right? that would be like T-mac being considered the best IMO. As much as I really liked T-Mac in his prime, he was nothing but a scorer. Jada has ALWAYS scored points with catchy wordplay, but never put up wins in the sales column or added and diversity to his flow. Jada may be top 5 DOA as far as NY legends go, but he's nowhere as well received as (and I'll just pick 5 people....) Jay-Z, Big, Pac, LL, or Nas. Damn, and they're all from NY too. I guess he's not even top 5 DOA in his home state. Let it go... [/deflation process]
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I feel u fam and u make valid points but this is all opinonated...your right the boy sells no records whatsoever...but you're tellin mebecause LL has and has had a Hall of Fame career because of his female fanbase that he's a better lyricist than Kiss....I know u know better than that myG...
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record sales mean nothing to me..but that's just me
 
Originally Posted by DearWinter219

Originally Posted by Untitled

pssh, ya some ungrateful cats....
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jadakiss on ANY given verse is better then ANYBODY's favorite rapper, that includes Nas and Jay-z.
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selling opinions as facts FTL...
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jadakiss been on songs wit nas and jay-z... and i don't see where jigga or god son "outshined" jadakiss

only one where he took second place was "show discipline" cuz nas blacked out..but anybody else INCLUDIN jay-z? pssh...goodlook

jadakiss's problem has been "packaging" all that lightning in a bottle and releasing it as a album...thanks to puff daddy we haven't gottenthat many albums cuz of it.

matter fact, Jadakiss is so good ya would be HARDPRESSED even finding a wack jadakiss verse....son is just tooconsistant.

his problem has ALWAYS been things outside of his control...the POLITICS of hiphop music bizz.....
 
You hit the nail on the head early on sdfbheat. It's all opinion. All I'm saying is that based on appeal (not just sales but appeal in general), thecommon opinion is that Jada ain't all that noteworthy. Nobody's rushing to D/L the latest Jada, letalone buy it. So while yes it may be true that he is very talented and skilled, he can't be as GREAT as they say. Talent is common. Greatness is rare. Andwhether you like it or not, there is more women on earth than men. And a lot of those women like rap. It may be looked down upon to "pander" to thefemale audience, but it is a legit grind. If you can grind out TWENTY YEARS worth of music to please the females (Which make up the majority of rap consumersanyway), then that right there is GREATNESS, whether you want to except it or not. Take a look at the RnB field. Few make it that long. 20 years of hits is anachievement musically regardless of the genre.
 
Originally Posted by Untitled

Originally Posted by DearWinter219

Originally Posted by Untitled

pssh, ya some ungrateful cats....
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jadakiss on ANY given verse is better then ANYBODY's favorite rapper, that includes Nas and Jay-z.
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selling opinions as facts FTL...
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jadakiss been on songs wit nas and jay-z... and i don't see where jigga or god son "outshined" jadakiss

only one where he took second place was "show discipline" cuz nas blacked out..but anybody else INCLUDIN jay-z? pssh...goodlook

jadakiss's problem has been "packaging" all that lightning in a bottle and releasing it as a album...thanks to puff daddy we haven't gotten that many albums cuz of it.
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re-packaging the same opinions and re-selling them as fresh facts FTL... quit it... it's annoying..
 
Originally Posted by DearWinter219

Originally Posted by Untitled

Originally Posted by DearWinter219

Originally Posted by Untitled

pssh, ya some ungrateful cats....
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jadakiss on ANY given verse is better then ANYBODY's favorite rapper, that includes Nas and Jay-z.
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selling opinions as facts FTL...
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jadakiss been on songs wit nas and jay-z... and i don't see where jigga or god son "outshined" jadakiss

only one where he took second place was "show discipline" cuz nas blacked out..but anybody else INCLUDIN jay-z? pssh...goodlook

jadakiss's problem has been "packaging" all that lightning in a bottle and releasing it as a album...thanks to puff daddy we haven't gotten that many albums cuz of it.
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re-packaging the same opinions and re-selling them as fresh facts FTL... quit it... it's annoying..
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ok there champ...who u think is better then jadakiss BAR FOR BAR? im DYIN to know.....
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Originally Posted by DearWinter219

You hit the nail on the head early on sdfbheat. It's all opinion. All I'm saying is that based on appeal (not just sales but appeal in general), the common opinion is that Jada ain't all that noteworthy. Nobody's rushing to D/L the latest Jada, let alone buy it. So while yes it may be true that he is very talented and skilled, he can't be as GREAT as they say. Talent is common. Greatness is rare. And whether you like it or not, there is more women on earth than men. And a lot of those women like rap. It may be looked down upon to "pander" to the female audience, but it is a legit grind. If you can grind out TWENTY YEARS worth of music to please the females (Which make up the majority of rap consumers anyway), then that right there is GREATNESS, whether you want to except it or not. Take a look at the RnB field. Few make it that long. 20 years of hits is an achievement musically regardless of the genre.
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oh i get it.................your opinion is garbage
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carry on....son talkin bout "appealing to the females...
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sad everybodythinks they a A&R now.....
 
Originally Posted by Untitled

Originally Posted by DearWinter219

Originally Posted by Untitled

Originally Posted by DearWinter219

Originally Posted by Untitled

pssh, ya some ungrateful cats....
grin.gif


jadakiss on ANY given verse is better then ANYBODY's favorite rapper, that includes Nas and Jay-z.
Click to expand...
selling opinions as facts FTL...
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jadakiss been on songs wit nas and jay-z... and i don't see where jigga or god son "outshined" jadakiss

only one where he took second place was "show discipline" cuz nas blacked out..but anybody else INCLUDIN jay-z? pssh...goodlook

jadakiss's problem has been "packaging" all that lightning in a bottle and releasing it as a album...thanks to puff daddy we haven't gotten that many albums cuz of it.
Click to expand...
re-packaging the same opinions and re-selling them as fresh facts FTL... quit it... it's annoying..
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ok there champ...who u think is better then jadakiss BAR FOR BAR? im DYIN to know.....
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Listening to hip-hop ""bar for bar" FTL
 
Originally Posted by Untitled

Originally Posted by DearWinter219

You hit the nail on the head early on sdfbheat. It's all opinion. All I'm saying is that based on appeal (not just sales but appeal in general), the common opinion is that Jada ain't all that noteworthy. Nobody's rushing to D/L the latest Jada, let alone buy it. So while yes it may be true that he is very talented and skilled, he can't be as GREAT as they say. Talent is common. Greatness is rare. And whether you like it or not, there is more women on earth than men. And a lot of those women like rap. It may be looked down upon to "pander" to the female audience, but it is a legit grind. If you can grind out TWENTY YEARS worth of music to please the females (Which make up the majority of rap consumers anyway), then that right there is GREATNESS, whether you want to except it or not. Take a look at the RnB field. Few make it that long. 20 years of hits is an achievement musically regardless of the genre.
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oh i get it.................your opinion is garbage
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carry on....son talkin bout "appealing to the females...
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sad everybody thinks they a A&R now.....
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Nah, not at all. I'm just a rapper who ain't trying to be the next Jadakiss....

My opinion is garbage because I think LL has had a great career? How old are you? You sound childish and ignorant at best
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Kiss was NOT better than Hov on Blackout. He was on Reservoir Dogs tho.

"Anything i'm on is a classic, any _ I ever had beef with, son is a bastard..."
 
Originally Posted by DearWinter219

You hit the nail on the head early on sdfbheat. It's all opinion. All I'm saying is that based on appeal (not just sales but appeal in general), the common opinion is that Jada ain't all that noteworthy. Nobody's rushing to D/L the latest Jada, let alone buy it. So while yes it may be true that he is very talented and skilled, he can't be as GREAT as they say. Talent is common. Greatness is rare. And whether you like it or not, there is more women on earth than men. And a lot of those women like rap. It may be looked down upon to "pander" to the female audience, but it is a legit grind. If you can grind out TWENTY YEARS worth of music to please the females (Which make up the majority of rap consumers anyway), then that right there is GREATNESS, whether you want to except it or not. Take a look at the RnB field. Few make it that long. 20 years of hits is an achievement musically regardless of the genre.
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real talk I hear what u saying Winter....but this I suppose is what makes these threads all opinion....see I can respect getting a female fanbase and rockinwit that as u said they outnumbering us by plenty....20 years in the game is a long long time and is a real good look legendary if u will...but I justcan't say Jada ain't one of the greatest ever...as far as the potential factor I do agree he could have been huge with the talent he has but insteadPuff jay-jerked um....and then D-Block was for the hood all day...The Champ is Here Mixtape
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is still something I can knock...and what better than throwin in the new BigMike and getting your Kiss fix...but real talk I agree with what ur saying fam...
 
Originally Posted by DearWinter219

Originally Posted by Untitled

Originally Posted by DearWinter219

Originally Posted by Untitled

Originally Posted by DearWinter219

Originally Posted by Untitled

pssh, ya some ungrateful cats....
grin.gif


jadakiss on ANY given verse is better then ANYBODY's favorite rapper, that includes Nas and Jay-z.
Click to expand...
selling opinions as facts FTL...
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jadakiss been on songs wit nas and jay-z... and i don't see where jigga or god son "outshined" jadakiss

only one where he took second place was "show discipline" cuz nas blacked out..but anybody else INCLUDIN jay-z? pssh...goodlook

jadakiss's problem has been "packaging" all that lightning in a bottle and releasing it as a album...thanks to puff daddy we haven't gotten that many albums cuz of it.
Click to expand...
re-packaging the same opinions and re-selling them as fresh facts FTL... quit it... it's annoying..
Click to expand...
ok there champ...who u think is better then jadakiss BAR FOR BAR? im DYIN to know.....
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Listening to hip-hop ""bar for bar" FTL
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and ladies and gentleman, this is why you got kayne having a GARBAGE asssss album out thats him singing and thats why LIL wayne is trying to do arock album...
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cuz of people like duke....

can't name me someone that is BAR FOR BAR better then jadakiss...straight dodging all sorts of valid points, then talkin bout jada should appeal toladies...the lox made a album called we are the street, not we all the bed sheets.......
 
"I can have a brand new start again//
As long as L.A. ain't cheap with the marketing//"

*insert Jadakiss laugh here*
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Preciate it... I think what's throwing dude off is that he's obviously biased towards Jada, but I'm not. I'm just not rooting for dudeneither. I'm not knocking Jada AT ALL. Dude is nice as %!%+ with what he does. But because I'm not from NY, I don't have that hometown pride Iguess. I'm just calling it the way I see...
 
and ladies and gentleman, this is why you got kayne having a GARBAGE asssss album out thats him singing and thats why LIL wayne is trying to do a rock album...image cuz of people like duke....

can't name me someone that is BAR FOR BAR better then jadakiss...straight dodging all sorts of valid points, then talkin bout jada should appeal to ladies...the lox made a album called we are the street, not we all the bed sheets.......


You just gone put words in my mouth huh? I guess... do you. You might get it one day.
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iHateTimeDotCom wrote:
like i been sayin for YEARS (since high school)

Jadakiss is an overglorified punchline rapper... i mean u KNOW u cant b #+%% but a punchline rapper if lloyd banks makes a better album than u...

i dare anybody to say either of jada's weak %$! cds are better than hunger for more... and i hate g unit...
woooooooowwwwwwwwww
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By Your Side>>>>>The Whole Hunger 4 More Album all together...come on!!
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Show Discipline no really show some!!!

Styles P. features on Kiss' albums are better than the trash Banks puts out...Banks albums were
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Money in the Bank series best Banks I heard....nothing on his albums compares to the Victory freestyle or the Banks workout....thats when he was
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...Banks albums better than Jada's...I know it's all opinion but what isthis game coming to!!!!!
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