So I'm listening to LAD and....

dapper d · Feb 10, 2009

Originally Posted by Harlem On The Rise

Explain to me what Deck was trying to say on that "Truimph" verse?? The %%!* was hot, but exactly what point do YOU think he was tryin to get across . . . Not to mention he spit it on a Tony Touch mixtape BEFORE Wu-Tang Forever came out

Ghostface story on impossible is better than the story BIG told on "Somebodys Gotta Die"?? "Ninjaz Bleed"?? "I Got A Story To Tell"?? OK . . .

Gza?? Dude has absolutely NO charisma, how can you even compare him to an MC with as much personality as BIG, that's an insult to the art. Gza is ill no doubt, but lets just be serious here . . .

"Its ill when MCs used to be on cruddy %%!*/
Took home Ready To Die LISTENED studied %%!*/
Now they on some money %%!*? Succesful out the gate"

I love Wu, but Rae and Ghost wasn't on that Scarface %%!* when they first came out, Ready To Die was the beginning of this "Coke" rap, Cuban Linx was basically the FIRST album to be formulated around JUST that . . . But I don't really remember them talkin about keys and being out of town till AFTER Ready To Die hit. I know Ghost REALLY did his thing or whatever, but they wasn't talkin about that on record until BIG basically made it possible for an east coast artist to make OUR version of "Gangsta" rap, which is this "Coke" rap, all the way down to the robberies and %%!* . . .

Go back and listen to Ghost & Rae's verses off of 36 Chambers, tell me how many "Coke" refernces they have between the 2 of them.

Time to go in...

First of all the there would be no Life After Death without Cunban Linx...
Ready To Die was straight on the corner hustling...robbing N's album...
Then Rae and Ghost came with that extra fly kingpin, drinking crystal type of fly @%!#...
The blue print for Life After Death...Lays wit Cuban Linx...
Also remember 36 chambers wasn't their album...it was RZA's vision...
Yet when they got some good solo time (Can it be so simple, CREAM) they got to talk their @%!#...
Cuban Linx was Raes album and he did one no one ever heard before...

Now wit the verses...
Everything about that Deck verse is perfect...Deck was basically tryin to say how +@++!%% ill he is...Does that stop it from being one of the greatest verse ofall time...
What was Big tryin to say in...Kick in the Door...Last Days...Hypnotize...He's talking @%!# about how ill...That doesn't stop those from being somemean verses...

Ghost Story in impossible is better then those big stories (Even though they are all classic)...for one reason...He told a complete story in ONE VERSE...notonly was it complete but it had so many details...You knew everything from how he died...to their fathers robbing banks together...to that dirty @@!*+tashia...

Again not to take anything away from Bigs stories...But it took him a whole song to get out what Ghost said in that verse...
Your a writer...So imagine making a story rap thats like a 100 bars...then having to take away 70 of those bars..and still have the details to make it aclassic...

and that GZA verse is just mean...matter fact that is one of the few times he did show a lot of personality...

At the end of the day I feel like I'm nit picking at @%!#...
I just disagree wit your point that life after death is leagues better...
These two albums are classic (Life after death being better) and they both belong in the same sentence...

spot rusherz · Feb 10, 2009

LAD is classic

mr monday niight · Feb 10, 2009

i don't like LAD much either

thunderchunk69 · Feb 10, 2009

Originally Posted by SEND ONE

This board is %#! backwards. Dudes want to praise @##!#@%@ and at the same time talk down about this album.

First off Big never got a "pass". He came in the game on some commercial type @%+# (Juicy) to begin with, but also had the streets on lock. The difference with Big is that he knew how to balance it perfectly. Y'all gotta remember when RTD came out being "commercial" was frowned upon until Big showed if done correctly it can be beneficial to all parties. Son achieved a certain level with that album and did nothing more than try to push it to the next one with LAD......and it worked. And for the record, I'd take some of the "filler" on this album over a lot of todays singles.

I dont think this cd is perfect but at the same time I dont see how anyone cant rock with it.

"Playa Hater"

AGREED on many points, but you have to realize this is the same public that bought Ma$e album, thinking it was a classic (and some of you still do

)
so he didn't need a pass to sell commercial music in the BadBoy/Platinum/Ice age of hiphop.

seymore cake · Feb 10, 2009

Originally Posted by purplehazze96

Originally Posted by Tom Jooks

The problem is you guys are too scared to admit that you like something. I guarantee 90% of you go on wikipedia and check the reviews before you can say an
album is in your top 10. Learn how to form your opinion.

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^who the +@$% are you determine that about other peoples opinions? I swear, that's why this forum is a %+%# hole. Too many dudes who think they know more than the next guy, on some "holier than thou" tip.

N_ said he guarantees 90% people are incapable of forming their own opinions. Does Wikipedia even give album reviews?

It's time to bounce yo. Maybe you're right, either way it's a loose loose for the people who actually care about this %+%#.

_ got up under your skin huh?

purplehazze96 · Feb 10, 2009

The whole thread has yo.

NT music forum is like the D League of music forums and you got people who honestly thing their opinions are worth more than everybody else's.

It's the equivalent of Rajon Rondo telling Gabe Pruitt his jump shot is wack.

N_'s really think they're doin it.

dapper d · Feb 10, 2009

Listen man You gotta question someone's hip hop ears if they don't see the greatness in this album...
Its just that great...
Most things can be objective...unless its absolute greatness...
We can disagree on T.I.'s latest album...but not a album that basically defines are culture and has become the blueprint for commercially released hiphop...EVERY rap artist wants a Life After Death in their catalogue...a album that has the streets and the charts...

I mean Really...Classic Beats...Classic Lyrics...What the $@+# More do u want....

yungmatt · Feb 10, 2009

Originally Posted by Dapper D

Listen man You gotta question someone's hip hop ears if they don't see the greatness in this album...
Its just that great...
Most things can be objective...unless its absolute greatness...
We can disagree on T.I.'s latest album...but not a album that basically defines are culture and has become the blueprint for commercially released hip hop...EVERY rap artist wants a Life After Death in their catalogue...a album that has the streets and the charts...

I mean Really...Classic Beats...Classic Lyrics...What the $@+# More do u want....

Agreed

Originally Posted by yungmatt

And this is EXACTLY why I do not argue about music anymore... Its all about personal preference.

purplehazze96 · Feb 10, 2009

Originally Posted by Dapper D

Listen man You gotta question someone's hip hop ears if they don't see the greatness in this album...
Its just that great...
Most things can be objective...unless its absolute greatness...
We can disagree on T.I.'s latest album...but not a album that basically defines are culture and has become the blueprint for commercially released hip
hop...EVERY rap artist wants a Life After Death in their catalogue...a album that has the streets and the charts...

I mean Really...Classic Beats...Classic Lyrics...What the $@+# More do u want....

I haven't seen anybody with the exception of Mr Monday Night deny this....

visualmusic · Feb 10, 2009

You people fail to see the difference between facts and opinions.

Everyone must question someones 'Hip Hop ears' because they don't see the greatness of this album? Do you people honestly think this way?

harlem on the rise · Feb 10, 2009

Ready To Die was actually a concept album (as was Cuban Linx) it was chronicing BIGs life from a corner hustler to this "Kingpin". That being said

"Goin outta town blowin. . ."
"Things Done Changed"

"Till I figuired out Nicks when for 20s down south . . .
"I had the masterplan, I'm in the caravan/
On my way to Maryland . . ."
"Everyday Struggle"

"They heard about the pounds you got down in Georgetown/
& they heard you got half of Virginia locked down"
"Warning"

All the $!@* they talk about on Cuban Linx is $!@* BIG was on throughout the whole album.

Its not really anything to argue about, the proof is in the pudding, listen to 36 then RTD then Cuban Linx, BIG was on that Don $!@* on Ready To Die a yearbefore,

"How you livin Biggie Smalls/
In mansions and Benz, givin ends to my friends/
And it feels stupendis"

Tell me how Ghost & Rae was on ANY type of fly $!@* before BIG??

If Ready To Die came before Cuban Linx, how can you say it is the "Blueprint" to Life After??

it makes no sense, if you remember the 90s Idon't even know how its a discussion. BIG was on that FLY $!@* back when Ghost was barley even showin his face. BIG was rickin the Versace shades in"Juicy", with the rented mansion

how was ANYone from the east on that Don $!@* before BIG?? The extended version to "Warning" video .. . The Notorious BIGs whole persona was the DON, Biggie Smalls was the corner rapper, lyrcist lounge dude . . .

mytoasterspeak · Feb 10, 2009

Me personally, I got down with them Wu cats for a minute, but after that Forever cd, I was cool on them @%$#!@. Dudes looke like bums to me. I feel like if yougo be on all that coke and ill intellectual gangsta *+!@, at least have some shine to yourself. Thing about B.I.G. though was, he knew how to toe that line ofstreet music and dance floor music and STILL have that flow that made you be like "Hey, rewind that". That is now that recipe for modern hip-hopminus the strong word play and lyrics. Now cats just want that 808 and a catchy hook. On a sidenote, I remember when that Wu -Tang Forever came out, I wasamped, listened to it for two days straight, then decided you're not allowed to enter my ears anymore, and promptly flung that trash out the window, *+!@was garbage except a few songs.

southsidechi773 · Feb 10, 2009

This thread is Incredible and Disgusting at the same time.I cant believe people are comparing this album to anything.

This Man basically tore/shredded every beat that was set before him with no force.

I cant believe I hear the words "Commercial" and "Filler" associated with this.

This album set the bar so high that Hip Hop has never recovered from it.

If this album isnt in your top five ever,I feel sorry for your mothers..."wobbledee,wobbledee drop it like its hot"...cornballs!

mideastbeast · Feb 10, 2009

I can name 50 albums that came out after LAD that are better. I won't waste my time doing that, I'll just say

Violent By Design > Biggies career.

My bad.

Throw all the Jus Allah verses on VBD in a hat, pick one, and you have something worth more than anything Christopher Wallace has ever done in his entire life.

On some verses, I'll take 4 Jus Allah bars over Biggie's discography.

purplehazze96 · Feb 10, 2009

^^Son you're so below what little discussion is taking place in this post you shouldn't even open your mouth.

Talking about the word commercial shouldn't even be associated with the album.

FOH

You peasant, your opinion on my top 5 is irrelevant

How old are you? A situation where the question is actually valid.

we get money · Feb 10, 2009

Originally Posted by purplehazze96

The whole thread has yo.

NT music forum is like the D League of music forums and you got people who honestly thing their opinions are worth more than everybody else's.

It's the equivalent of Rajon Rondo telling Gabe Pruitt his jump shot is wack.

N_'s really think they're doin it.

Aight then if it's so wack get your *$% the %$#@ outta here

NT Music Forum = GOAT

purplehazze96 · Feb 10, 2009

Originally Posted by WE GET MONEY

purplehazze96 wrote:

The whole thread has yo.

NT music forum is like the D League of music forums and you got people who honestly thing their opinions are worth more than everybody else's.

It's the equivalent of Rajon Rondo telling Gabe Pruitt his jump shot is wack.

N_'s really think they're doin it.

Click to expand...

Aight then if it's so wack get your *$% the %$#@ outta here

NT Music Forum = GOAT

I can't leave this place yo,

This is the first online community I ever participated in.

I love yall and hate yall at the same time.

mideastbeast · Feb 10, 2009

This isn't even up for discussion, but I'll give you 2 bars. That's all Biggie is worth in comparison to Jus Allah.

"Beast deceiving us, ways devious, possessing
My peeps to walk streets with stolen heat like Prometheus"

for the slow dudes... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheus

Well, there goes Biggies career.

southsidechi773 · Feb 10, 2009

Mideastpuddycat you cant be serious,lol.

harlem on the rise · Feb 10, 2009

MidEastBeast

I hope your not serious . . .

But ANY way we have this argument EVERY year, end NO one ever changes their opinion. I guess we got it out the way for 09 EARLY . . . Somebody start aStillmatic VS Blueprint thread or somethin, my man just said Jedi Mind Tricks is better than BIG . . .

*** puts on "Long Kiss Goodnight" ***

/thread

mideastbeast · Feb 10, 2009

Just stop.

Biggie had no idea who Prometheus is and could never in his life rhyme on such a high level. I haven't even bought out any real heat yet.

Post up a few Biggie bars or a verse and I will show you something that rips it to shreds and makes Biggie look like your local myspace rapper.

Dude's here can't comprehend.

I was being nice saying I wouldn't be mad if you had LAD as top 20 after you cut it down to one CD because I know most dudes here have very, very limitedexposure to music. Personally, LAD is top 200... and I'm from Brooklyn, and I love Biggie.

This is going to be like that eminem/paz thread all over again

@ all the Biggie stans here. Appreciate him all you want but talk about LAD being the greatest hip hop album since 1997 ? You are just asking to have biggiebodied and !+#* on.

untitled · Feb 10, 2009

Originally Posted by Ballerific703

It's a good CD but it is overrated, MAD filler on this album

pick the songs you think is filler....i got my pimp hand on deck..

untitled · Feb 10, 2009

Originally Posted by MidEastBeast

I can name 50 albums that came out after LAD that are better.

[table][tr][th=""]Publication[/th] [th=""]Country[/th] [th=""]Accolade[/th] [th=""]Year[/th] [th=""]

[/th] [/tr][tr][td]Blender Magazine[/td] [td]USA[/td] [td]The 100 Greatest American Albums of All time[/td] [td]2002[/td] [td]#25[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Ego Trip[/td] [td]USA[/td] [td]Hip Hop's 25 Greatest Albums by Year 1980-98[/td] [td]1999[/td] [td]#1[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Hip-Hop Connection[/td] [td]UK[/td] [td]The 100 Greatest Rap Albums 1995-2005[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]#14[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Rolling Stone[/td] [td]USA[/td] [td]List of Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Albums of All Time[/td] [td]2003[/td] [td]#483[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Rolling Stone[/td] [td]USA[/td] [td]The Essential Recordings of the 90s[/td] [td]1999[/td] [td]*[/td] [/tr][tr][td]The New Nation[/td] [td]UK[/td] [td]Top 100 Albums by Black Artists[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]#60[/td] [/tr][tr][td]The Source[/td] [td]USA[/td] [td]100 Best Rap Albums[/td] [td]1998[/td] [td]*[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Vibe Magazine[/td] [td]USA[/td] [td]51 Albums representing a Generation, a Sound and a Movement[/td] [td]2004[/td] [td]
[/td] [/tr][/table]

i doubt it.

purplehazze96 · Feb 10, 2009

dapper d · Feb 10, 2009

Originally Posted by Harlem On The Rise

Ready To Die was actually a concept album (as was Cuban Linx) it was chronicing BIGs life from a corner hustler to this "Kingpin". That being said

"Goin outta town blowin. . ."
"Things Done Changed"

"Till I figuired out Nicks when for 20s down south . . .
"I had the masterplan, I'm in the caravan/
On my way to Maryland . . ."
"Everyday Struggle"

"They heard about the pounds you got down in Georgetown/
& they heard you got half of Virginia locked down"
"Warning"

All the $!@* they talk about on Cuban Linx is $!@* BIG was on throughout the whole album.

Its not really anything to argue about, the proof is in the pudding, listen to 36 then RTD then Cuban Linx, BIG was on that Don $!@* on Ready To Die a year before,

"How you livin Biggie Smalls/
In mansions and Benz, givin ends to my friends/
And it feels stupendis"

Tell me how Ghost & Rae was on ANY type of fly $!@* before BIG??

If Ready To Die came before Cuban Linx, how can you say it is the "Blueprint" to Life After??

it makes no sense, if you remember the 90s I don't even know how its a discussion. BIG was on that FLY $!@* back when Ghost was barley even showin his face. BIG was rickin the Versace shades in "Juicy", with the rented mansion

how was ANYone from the east on that Don $!@* before BIG?? The extended version to "Warning" video . . . The Notorious BIGs whole persona was the DON, Biggie Smalls was the corner rapper, lyrcist lounge dude . . .

Kool G. Rap was on some Don gansta %%+@ before any of these N's...
Kane was on some fly %%+@ before any of these N's...
Ready To Die is a robbery....Stick Up kid...on the Corner hustling album...Something Big said himself...
you mention a couple of verse's and a video but thats not what the album is about...
Rae and Ghost built a WHOLE ALBUM around that %%+@...
The Prove is in the pudding...after Rae put that alubm what did u get...
Do or Die...It was written...reasonable DOubt...LIfe After Death...
Ill put it like this...
Without black Moon and 36 chambers there would be no ready to die...
Without cuban linxs there would be no life after death...

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So I'm listening to LAD and....

dapper d

spot rusherz

mr monday niight

thunderchunk69

seymore cake

purplehazze96

dapper d

yungmatt

purplehazze96

visualmusic

harlem on the rise

mytoasterspeak

southsidechi773

mideastbeast

purplehazze96

we get money

purplehazze96

mideastbeast

southsidechi773

harlem on the rise

mideastbeast

untitled

untitled

purplehazze96

dapper d

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