Minimum requirement to get into heaven...vol. any pentecostals?

Originally Posted by ScottHallWithAPick

Originally Posted by JsindaA

Originally Posted by FIRST B0RN

Originally Posted by RKO2004



It's not destroying, but kudos for trying to demonize us of those who don't believe in your magical afterlife.
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You demonized yourself by trying to discourage people from getting closer to God.
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Thats easy...look at your first post in this topic. If you choose not to believe what we do....even think we are crazy, then fine. But to mock it? That's totally unnecessary, it does kinda discourage those who may be on the fence, and it's a bit childish to say the least. We're grown, we can agree to disagree and keep it moving.
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ummm correct me if im wrong but isnt discouraging something apart of disagreeing? If you say i want Mcdonalds for lunch and I say dont get that thats gross. I am discouraging you from doing it arent I? So if you say Jesus is the only way to Heaven and I say that's a ridiculous policy and start a disagreement whats the difference. I know I may have worded it wrong but I hate how people get so sensitive when you say something about their religion when they don't know how offensive they are. First Born on the 1st 2 pages was called a demonized destroyer who is going to hell. Ummm that's mean

WHO SAID HE WAS GOING TO HELL?!
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Originally Posted by RKO2004




You have to accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior. But you must also live the life as God/Jesus would want. Oh and listen/read/follow Gods' word.You wont be judge by your good works but your heart. If you have these and follow these then you should be on your way.
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Well right there you said he aint going to heaven because he doesnt accept jesus christ so is there a 3rd choice I am not aware of. If so I'llretract my statement
 
Originally Posted by RKO2004

Originally Posted by FIRST B0RN

Originally Posted by RKO2004



It's not destroying, but kudos for trying to demonize us of those who don't believe in your magical afterlife.
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You demonized yourself by trying to discourage people from getting closer to God.
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And when did I do this?
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Look at your past post over time. You tried to crap on me much in the past when I was trying to spread the word.

And for the people calling B.S. go here...

Endtime.com. Take a few minutes to just look around.

And once again I like NT's sense of humor. You guys really give me a good laugh.


i believe in jesus and everything, but that website is sort of suspect. not only do they charge outrageous prices for their products, but theybring up the whole new world order conspiracy. i dunno...
 
Originally Posted by ScottHallWithAPick

Originally Posted by JsindaA

Originally Posted by FIRST B0RN

Originally Posted by RKO2004



It's not destroying, but kudos for trying to demonize us of those who don't believe in your magical afterlife.
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You demonized yourself by trying to discourage people from getting closer to God.
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And when did I do this?
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Thats easy...look at your first post in this topic. If you choose not to believe what we do....even think we are crazy, then fine. But to mock it? That's totally unnecessary, it does kinda discourage those who may be on the fence, and it's a bit childish to say the least. We're grown, we can agree to disagree and keep it moving.
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ummm correct me if im wrong but isnt discouraging something apart of disagreeing? If you say i want Mcdonalds for lunch and I say dont get that thats gross. I am discouraging you from doing it arent I? So if you say Jesus is the only way to Heaven and I say that's a ridiculous policy and start a disagreement whats the difference. I know I may have worded it wrong but I hate how people get so sensitive when you say something about their religion when they don't know how offensive they are. First Born on the 1st 2 pages was called a demonized destroyer who is going to hell. Ummm that's mean

In a sense yes...but you can disagree without discouraging....like, in your example, you want McD's and I say that's not what I like butdo you. Still it is kinda discouraging but my point was there is no reason to mock it. Disagree but to mock that's childish. And ftr, I never called him ademonizing destroyer
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Originally Posted by ScottHallWithAPick

Originally Posted by RKO2004




You have to accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior. But you must also live the life as God/Jesus would want. Oh and listen/read/follow Gods' word.You wont be judge by your good works but your heart. If you have these and follow these then you should be on your way.
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Well right there you said he aint going to heaven because he doesnt accept jesus christ so is there a 3rd choice I am not aware of. If so I'll retract my statement
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Oh I thought you was saying one of us said "YOUR GOING TO HELL!". But as I said before I believe Christ is the way.
 
Originally Posted by Sidewayze

Originally Posted by justhotkicks

Originally Posted by SpringfieldXD

accept Jesus -------> go to heaven.

its that easy.

read John 3:16
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I wouldn't say that. What's the point in saying..."I accept Jesus" if all you are doing is saying it? You have to accept andBELIEVE which is going to change some behaviors naturally. I don't have a rulebook so don't ask me for that but I can say something all day but if Idon't believe it, it means nothing....and beliefs are backed by actions so.......it's not that easy.
 
Originally Posted by finnns2003

Originally Posted by RKO2004

Originally Posted by FIRST B0RN

Originally Posted by RKO2004



It's not destroying, but kudos for trying to demonize us of those who don't believe in your magical afterlife.
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You demonized yourself by trying to discourage people from getting closer to God.
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And when did I do this?
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Look at your past post over time. You tried to crap on me much in the past when I was trying to spread the word.

And for the people calling B.S. go here...

Endtime.com. Take a few minutes to just look around.

And once again I like NT's sense of humor. You guys really give me a good laugh.
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i believe in jesus and everything, but that website is sort of suspect. not only do they charge outrageous prices for their products, but they bring up the whole new world order conspiracy. i dunno...




Scaring people into submission is what organized religion does, and they do it well. It's been "the end of days" since the 18th century.
 
Originally Posted by I R Andre

Originally Posted by finnns2003

Originally Posted by RKO2004

Originally Posted by FIRST B0RN

Originally Posted by RKO2004



It's not destroying, but kudos for trying to demonize us of those who don't believe in your magical afterlife.
laugh.gif
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You demonized yourself by trying to discourage people from getting closer to God.
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And when did I do this?
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Look at your past post over time. You tried to crap on me much in the past when I was trying to spread the word.

And for the people calling B.S. go here...

Endtime.com. Take a few minutes to just look around.

And once again I like NT's sense of humor. You guys really give me a good laugh.
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i believe in jesus and everything, but that website is sort of suspect. not only do they charge outrageous prices for their products, but they bring up the whole new world order conspiracy. i dunno...
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Scaring people into submission is what organized religion does, and they do it well. It's been "the end of days" since the 18th century.

No not that part. I'm talking about the sign stuff. I don't buy anything
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. I only look at the link with the signs of whats to come. Submission? Stop. You believe what you want bro. Wait let me get the link real quick...
 
So if you say Jesus is the only way to Heaven and I say that's a ridiculous policy and start a disagreement whats the difference. I know I may have worded it wrong but I hate how people get so sensitive when you say something about their religion when they don't know how offensive they are. First Born on the 1st 2 pages was called a demonized destroyer who is going to hell. Ummm that's mean
but you don't believe in hell though...
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Originally Posted by Dirtylicious

So if you say Jesus is the only way to Heaven and I say that's a ridiculous policy and start a disagreement whats the difference. I know I may have worded it wrong but I hate how people get so sensitive when you say something about their religion when they don't know how offensive they are. First Born on the 1st 2 pages was called a demonized destroyer who is going to hell. Ummm that's mean
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but you don't believe in hell though...
I think deep down they do which is why they get touchy when we say "Christ is the way". I know if I was an Atheist it wouldn't meananything to me since I wouldn't be subscribed to any of it.
 
Originally Posted by RKO2004

Originally Posted by I R Andre

Originally Posted by RKO2004

http://www.endtime.com/ProphecyTopics.aspxhttp://www.endtime.com/ProphecyTopics.aspxhttp://www.endtime.com/ProphecyTopics.aspxhttp://www.endtime.com/ProphecyTopics.aspx

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It's becoming harder and harder to take you seriously.
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OK whatever. You do you. That one world government/economy is looking real possible huh?
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You remind me of a religious NothingBefore. It's like Christians want the entire world to be doomed just so they can say I told you so.
 
Originally Posted by I R Andre

Originally Posted by RKO2004

Originally Posted by I R Andre

Originally Posted by RKO2004

http://www.endtime.com/ProphecyTopics.aspxhttp://www.endtime.com/ProphecyTopics.aspxhttp://www.endtime.com/ProphecyTopics.aspxhttp://www.endtime.com/ProphecyTopics.aspxhttp://www.endtime.com/ProphecyTopics.aspx

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It's becoming harder and harder to take you seriously.
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OK whatever. You do you. That one world government/economy is looking real possible huh?
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You remind me of a religious NothingBefore. It's like Christians want the entire world to be doomed just so they can say I told you so.
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Stop reaching kid you almost poked me in the eye. I don't know howmany times I have to say it until it gets through...


I WANT EVERYONE TO GO TO HEAVEN. I DON'T PLEAD WITH YOU FOR MY HEALTH. I DON'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT "I TOLD YOU SO". I ONLY CARE ABOUT YOU GOINGTO WHERE I'M TRYING TO GO.

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As long as i worship god then im good...but in order to worship god i can't really go against the bible feel me?...so if im going to church meanwhile imdrinking/smoking and just doing all this crazy *$!+ then how would good look at me?...how would i receieve any of his blessings if im basically going againsthim. Thats how I look at it.
 
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As long as i worship god then im good...but in order to worship god i can't really go against the bible feel me?...so if im going to church meanwhile im drinking/smoking and just doing all this crazy *$!+ then how would good look at me?...how would i receieve any of his blessings if im basically going against him. Thats how I look at it.
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Originally Posted by RKO2004

Originally Posted by Dirtylicious

So if you say Jesus is the only way to Heaven and I say that's a ridiculous policy and start a disagreement whats the difference. I know I may have worded it wrong but I hate how people get so sensitive when you say something about their religion when they don't know how offensive they are. First Born on the 1st 2 pages was called a demonized destroyer who is going to hell. Ummm that's mean
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but you don't believe in hell though...
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I think deep down they do which is why they get touchy when we say "Christ is the way". I know if I was an Atheist it wouldn't mean anything to me since I wouldn't be subscribed to any of it.


You are really full of yourself aren't you? Seriously. You think those of us that say we don't believe actually do? Like we just say wehold different beliefs? You really don't get it and honestly, I don't expect you to. You are too caught up in your eternal 'ministry' to seethe wrongs in your words. I know I sure as hell don't believe in hell, but someone telling me that my choices are leading me on my path to everlastingagony is offensive. I don't have to believe in hell to know that someone telling me to 'go to hell' is an insult. Just as I don't have to beblack to find racism offensive. The thought of you thinking your views are the only way to eternal happiness is sickening. Are those that believe in adifferent god condemned to hell?
You act as if you are just trying to save people. Like your moronic sentiments are going to change anyone's mind about god. Oh and no one is trying to'destroy' your 'good work.' Really, hop off of your cross. Take the sign off that says i.n.RKO.i. I don't think martyrs anxiously awaittheir persecution. You wait for it like a single mom tax refund. No one is trying to 'discourage' anyone from getting closer to god. Notice no onehas said don't go near religion. We just acknowledge the ridiculousness in your actions. I don't see any non-believer saying YOU are living yourlife wrong.

Oh and you don't know why you get clowned? You posted that in the same thread you tell people to go to endtimes.com! That is the equivalent of saying"George Bush wasn't such a bad guy..just got to Foxnews.com." You really are incredulous as to why you are clowned? How can that be? I mean ifyou are so small minded as to why that would be, why should anyone listen to what you think is the "truth?"
 
Originally Posted by lobotomybeats

Originally Posted by RKO2004

Originally Posted by Dirtylicious

So if you say Jesus is the only way to Heaven and I say that's a ridiculous policy and start a disagreement whats the difference. I know I may have worded it wrong but I hate how people get so sensitive when you say something about their religion when they don't know how offensive they are. First Born on the 1st 2 pages was called a demonized destroyer who is going to hell. Ummm that's mean
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but you don't believe in hell though...
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I think deep down they do which is why they get touchy when we say "Christ is the way". I know if I was an Atheist it wouldn't mean anything to me since I wouldn't be subscribed to any of it.
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You are really full of yourself aren't you? Seriously. You think those of us that say we don't believe actually do? Like we just say we hold different beliefs? You really don't get it and honestly, I don't expect you to. You are too caught up in your eternal 'ministry' to see the wrongs in your words. I know I sure as hell don't believe in hell, but someone telling me that my choices are leading me on my path to everlasting agony is offensive. I don't have to believe in hell to know that someone telling me to 'go to hell' is an insult. Just as I don't have to be black to find racism offensive. The thought of you thinking your views are the only way to eternal happiness is sickening. Are those that believe in a different god condemned to hell?
You act as if you are just trying to save people. Like your moronic sentiments are going to change anyone's mind about god. Oh and no one is trying to 'destroy' your 'good work.' Really, hop off of your cross. Take the sign off that says i.n.RKO.i. I don't think martyrs anxiously await their persecution. You wait for it like a single mom tax refund. No one is trying to 'discourage' anyone from getting closer to god. Notice no one has said don't go near religion. We just acknowledge the ridiculousness in your actions. I don't see any non-believer saying YOU are living your life wrong.

Oh and you don't know why you get clowned? You posted that in the same thread you tell people to go to endtimes.com! That is the equivalent of saying "George Bush wasn't such a bad guy..just got to Foxnews.com." You really are incredulous as to why you are clowned? How can that be? I mean if you are so small minded as to why that would be, why should anyone listen to what you think is the "truth?"






Listen kid, don't you believe that your right? I see you do with the heat behind your words. You have faith in what you say and I like wise. Offensive? Itshouldn't even be an insult if it doesn't exist. Like I said. I believe Christ is the only way. Thats what I believe so what you mad about? Tell emwhy?

Moronic? Ridiculous? Don't even get me started on that subject. 2 + 5 = 15
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Hey and no one has to listen to me. They can if they want.
 
Originally Posted by RKO2004

Originally Posted by lobotomybeats

Originally Posted by RKO2004

Originally Posted by Dirtylicious

So if you say Jesus is the only way to Heaven and I say that's a ridiculous policy and start a disagreement whats the difference. I know I may have worded it wrong but I hate how people get so sensitive when you say something about their religion when they don't know how offensive they are. First Born on the 1st 2 pages was called a demonized destroyer who is going to hell. Ummm that's mean
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I think deep down they do which is why they get touchy when we say "Christ is the way". I know if I was an Atheist it wouldn't mean anything to me since I wouldn't be subscribed to any of it.
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You are really full of yourself aren't you? Seriously. You think those of us that say we don't believe actually do? Like we just say we hold different beliefs? You really don't get it and honestly, I don't expect you to. You are too caught up in your eternal 'ministry' to see the wrongs in your words. I know I sure as hell don't believe in hell, but someone telling me that my choices are leading me on my path to everlasting agony is offensive. I don't have to believe in hell to know that someone telling me to 'go to hell' is an insult. Just as I don't have to be black to find racism offensive. The thought of you thinking your views are the only way to eternal happiness is sickening. Are those that believe in a different god condemned to hell?
You act as if you are just trying to save people. Like your moronic sentiments are going to change anyone's mind about god. Oh and no one is trying to 'destroy' your 'good work.' Really, hop off of your cross. Take the sign off that says i.n.RKO.i. I don't think martyrs anxiously await their persecution. You wait for it like a single mom tax refund. No one is trying to 'discourage' anyone from getting closer to god. Notice no one has said don't go near religion. We just acknowledge the ridiculousness in your actions. I don't see any non-believer saying YOU are living your life wrong.

Oh and you don't know why you get clowned? You posted that in the same thread you tell people to go to endtimes.com! That is the equivalent of saying "George Bush wasn't such a bad guy..just got to Foxnews.com." You really are incredulous as to why you are clowned? How can that be? I mean if you are so small minded as to why that would be, why should anyone listen to what you think is the "truth?"
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Listen kid, don't you believe that your right? I see you do with the heat behind your words. You have faith in what you say and I like wise. Offensive? It shouldn't even be an insult if it doesn't exist. Like I said. I believe Christ is the only way. Thats what I believe so what you mad about? Tell em why?

Moronic? Ridiculous? Don't even get me started on that subject. 2 + 5 = 15
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Hey and no one has to listen to me. They can if they want.

I will tell you why, "kid." Me believing I am right holds no belief of superiority over anyone. Do you get that? I am not saying anyoneis going this way or that way. I am not saying I am doing anything wrong or right. I am not trying to get anyone to be atheist. It is offensive when someonetells you that their idea of what is the worst thing possible is what you have coming. How do you not understand that? It's like when people say thingsare "gay" and mean it in a derogatory sense. I don't find there to be anything wrong with someone or something that is gay. But if someone tellsme I am "being gay" I can tell they don't mean that in a good way. Like I said, I don't believe in hell, but I can get pissed when someonetells me that that is where I am resigned to if I don't change. And this isn't a atheist vs. believers thing. I stick up for anyone that is told thattheir positive way of life is wrong. If you told a muslim that their ways were wrong I would stick up for them just the same. It's your arrogance that isastounding. If you think you are a positive spokesperson for your religion, you are doing them a disservice.

You don't understand this, and if I had time I would draw it out for you, but YOUR god isn't the only god. There are people out there doingthings in reverence to their god and are perfectly great people. Never do they acknowledge your god. Are they destined for hell?

Oh, and what "subject" are you talking about?
 
Originally Posted by lobotomybeats

Originally Posted by RKO2004

Originally Posted by lobotomybeats

Originally Posted by RKO2004

Originally Posted by Dirtylicious

So if you say Jesus is the only way to Heaven and I say that's a ridiculous policy and start a disagreement whats the difference. I know I may have worded it wrong but I hate how people get so sensitive when you say something about their religion when they don't know how offensive they are. First Born on the 1st 2 pages was called a demonized destroyer who is going to hell. Ummm that's mean
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I think deep down they do which is why they get touchy when we say "Christ is the way". I know if I was an Atheist it wouldn't mean anything to me since I wouldn't be subscribed to any of it.
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You are really full of yourself aren't you? Seriously. You think those of us that say we don't believe actually do? Like we just say we hold different beliefs? You really don't get it and honestly, I don't expect you to. You are too caught up in your eternal 'ministry' to see the wrongs in your words. I know I sure as hell don't believe in hell, but someone telling me that my choices are leading me on my path to everlasting agony is offensive. I don't have to believe in hell to know that someone telling me to 'go to hell' is an insult. Just as I don't have to be black to find racism offensive. The thought of you thinking your views are the only way to eternal happiness is sickening. Are those that believe in a different god condemned to hell?
You act as if you are just trying to save people. Like your moronic sentiments are going to change anyone's mind about god. Oh and no one is trying to 'destroy' your 'good work.' Really, hop off of your cross. Take the sign off that says i.n.RKO.i. I don't think martyrs anxiously await their persecution. You wait for it like a single mom tax refund. No one is trying to 'discourage' anyone from getting closer to god. Notice no one has said don't go near religion. We just acknowledge the ridiculousness in your actions. I don't see any non-believer saying YOU are living your life wrong.

Oh and you don't know why you get clowned? You posted that in the same thread you tell people to go to endtimes.com! That is the equivalent of saying "George Bush wasn't such a bad guy..just got to Foxnews.com." You really are incredulous as to why you are clowned? How can that be? I mean if you are so small minded as to why that would be, why should anyone listen to what you think is the "truth?"
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Listen kid, don't you believe that your right? I see you do with the heat behind your words. You have faith in what you say and I like wise. Offensive? It shouldn't even be an insult if it doesn't exist. Like I said. I believe Christ is the only way. Thats what I believe so what you mad about? Tell em why?

Moronic? Ridiculous? Don't even get me started on that subject. 2 + 5 = 15
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Hey and no one has to listen to me. They can if they want.
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I will tell you why, "kid." Me believing I am right holds no belief of superiority over anyone. Do you get that? I am not saying anyone is going this way or that way. I am not saying I am doing anything wrong or right. I am not trying to get anyone to be atheist. It is offensive when someone tells you that their idea of what is the worst thing possible is what you have coming. How do you not understand that? It's like when people say things are "gay" and mean it in a derogatory sense. I don't find there to be anything wrong with someone or something that is gay. But if someone tells me I am "being gay" I can tell they don't mean that in a good way. Like I said, I don't believe in hell, but I can get pissed when someone tells me that that is where I am resigned to if I don't change. And this isn't a atheist vs. believers thing. I stick up for anyone that is told that their positive way of life is wrong. If you told a muslim that their ways were wrong I would stick up for them just the same. It's your arrogance that is astounding. If you think you are a positive spokesperson for your religion, you are doing them a disservice.

You don't understand this, and if I had time I would draw it out for you, but YOUR god isn't the only god. There are people out there doing things in reverence to their god and are perfectly great people. Never do they acknowledge your god. Are they destined for hell?

Oh, and what "subject" are you talking about?



I believe I'm superior because my beliefs say Christ is the way? Well if you don't believe in it then why worry about it. I say all the time believewhat you want, but I also tell you what I believe. I understand what your saying but too bad. I can't go and change God or the bible. I can't changethat. Do you think drunks like being told that they have to change or they'll die? No one likes hearing that they are living wrong. I'm not sayingI'm living right either so don't change my words. I have said it before, we are all human and no one is greater than the other. But our actions and ourhearts are. Just because you think people are living right doesn't mean they are living right. Some can say Kurt Warner but if He is not living for Godthen He is doing it in vain. Your calling me arrogant and you come through and call what I believe moronic? Stop. Maybe I should subscribe to 2 +3 = 37 right?I mean that is how we got here right? A bang out of NOTHING right? I'm doing a disservice because I'm expressing what I believe? I can say the exactsame for you doing a disservice for Atheist. "Jesus is made up". Don't get mad because I told you what I believe. Get over!

There is only 1 GOD. Like I said, He is the tree and we are branches. I never said Muslims were wrong. There are a few things that actually separate us. Themain is they believe Jesus was just a prophet but I believe He is the Son of God. That is for God to judge, Once again I believe Jesus is the way. I came inhere to respond to my mans questions and a few other things. Why don't you get off of me and get on your Atheist pals who come in with the "
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Oh and the subject of nothing = nothing. You want to give me a link so I can better understand.

Oh and to the Muslims and etc, I didn't say you were going to Hell like my boy here is hinting to. I just happen to believe Christ is the way. I didn'tcrap on your prophets of beliefs, We are all one in the same. We are all leaves, twigs and branches and we must get back to our roots.
 
When will NT learn......it's a waste of time arguing Religion, Race and Politics on here.

Save yourself some time....State your position and go to the next topic.
 
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