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Minimum requirement to get into heaven...vol. any pentecostals?
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Hell + NT= HT
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Originally Posted by RKO2004
I will tell you why, "kid." Me believing I am right holds no belief of superiority over anyone. Do you get that? I am not saying anyone is going this way or that way. I am not saying I am doing anything wrong or right. I am not trying to get anyone to be atheist. It is offensive when someone tells you that their idea of what is the worst thing possible is what you have coming. How do you not understand that? It's like when people say things are "gay" and mean it in a derogatory sense. I don't find there to be anything wrong with someone or something that is gay. But if someone tells me I am "being gay" I can tell they don't mean that in a good way. Like I said, I don't believe in hell, but I can get pissed when someone tells me that that is where I am resigned to if I don't change. And this isn't a atheist vs. believers thing. I stick up for anyone that is told that their positive way of life is wrong. If you told a muslim that their ways were wrong I would stick up for them just the same. It's your arrogance that is astounding. If you think you are a positive spokesperson for your religion, you are doing them a disservice.Originally Posted by lobotomybeats
Listen kid, don't you believe that your right? I see you do with the heat behind your words. You have faith in what you say and I like wise. Offensive? It shouldn't even be an insult if it doesn't exist. Like I said. I believe Christ is the only way. Thats what I believe so what you mad about? Tell em why?
Moronic? Ridiculous? Don't even get me started on that subject. 2 + 5 = 15OK!
Hey and no one has to listen to me. They can if they want.
You don't understand this, and if I had time I would draw it out for you, but YOUR god isn't the only god. There are people out there doing things in reverence to their god and are perfectly great people. Never do they acknowledge your god. Are they destined for hell?
Oh, and what "subject" are you talking about?
I believe I'm superior because my beliefs say Christ is the way? Well if you don't believe in it then why worry about it. I say all the time believe what you want, but I also tell you what I believe. I understand what your saying but too bad. I can't go and change God or the bible. I can't change that. Do you think drunks like being told that they have to change or they'll die? No one likes hearing that they are living wrong. I'm not saying I'm living right either so don't change my words. I have said it before, we are all human and no one is greater than the other. But our actions and our hearts are. Just because you think people are living right doesn't mean they are living right. Some can say Kurt Warner but if He is not living for God then He is doing it in vain. Your calling me arrogant and you come through and call what I believe moronic? Stop. Maybe I should subscribe to 2 +3 = 37 right? I mean that is how we got here right? A bang out of NOTHING right? I'm doing a disservice because I'm expressing what I believe? I can say the exact same for you doing a disservice for Atheist. "Jesus is made up". Don't get mad because I told you what I believe. Get over!
There is only 1 GOD. Like I said, He is the tree and we are branches. I never said Muslims were wrong. There are a few things that actually separate us. The main is they believe Jesus was just a prophet but I believe He is the Son of God. That is for God to judge, Once again I believe Jesus is the way. I came in here to respond to my mans questions and a few other things. Why don't you get off of me and get on your Atheist pals who come in with the "
Oh and the subject of nothing = nothing. You want to give me a link so I can better understand.
Oh and to the Muslims and etc, I didn't say you were going to Hell like my boy here is hinting to. I just happen to believe Christ is the way. I didn't crap on your prophets of beliefs, We are all one in the same. We are all leaves, twigs and branches and we must get back to our roots.
You gotta be kidding me. Did I hint that you said that about Muslims? If you look in my post you will see I said "if you told..." Ieven made it in bold for you now. Are you drunk on the blood of christ? I said it hypothetically hence the "IF." Carry on. Maybe if I threw a"-lobotomybeats 3:16" after it you would see that as gospel.
Oh and the whole "I just believe Christ is the way" thing is your way of saying "This is why I believe everyone else is wrong." Where didI tell you to change the bible? I really hope you aren't this dense. Also, your "Jesus is made up" line really indicates how little you knowabout Atheist's views on Jesus. A lot of Atheist believe that were was a historical Jesus. "Son of God?" Not so much. Your ideas on what makesyou heaven-worthy are so terribly flawed that I can only hope that no one close to you with any trace of understanding or knowledge ever dies. I'd hatefor you to have to ponder if a wonderful person was heaven-worthy even though they subscribed to a different or no deity. I would hate for you to have toclimb off the soapbox behind your lectern and make amends for their now burnt flesh. The forced humility would crush you.
And if you don't see how your "alcoholics = non-believers" analogy is a joke than there is little hope for you outside of possibly being an altarboy.
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I'm not the most religious person, but to me logic like this is very flawed.
People expect for God to use "Divine Intervention" every time something goes wrong, someone get killed, someone goes hungry, etc. If that was the case Earth would be Heaven, nobody would get sick, get hurt, etc.
Yes, I question why stuff like this happens, but God gave every person on Earth free-will to do as he chooses. And I guess sometimes (on Earth) good doesn't triumph over evil.
Yeah but explain why it would happen (going hungry) to a little kid who's never done anything wrong. Or an innocent person getting killed. I could understand if it happens to someone who is a bad person but come on man. Think about it. Also, me eating, staying alive, or something going right isn't my picture of this so called "heaven" anyways.
I used to wonder "why" also. But if you think about God isn't responsible for ANY of that. He gave us free will to do as we please.We as the U.S. could have helped so many people in our own country and around the world pertaining to hunger. We just have some F'd up people on thisplanet who don't want to play nice. An I think you gotta look deeper for the hunger thing too.
The true question is, why do people not want to help the homeless and starving? We're always looking up for the miracle when we can be the miracleourselves.
You gotta be kidding me. Did I hint that you said that about Muslims? If you look in my post you will see I said "if you told..." I even made it in bold for you now. Are you drunk on the blood of christ? I said it hypothetically hence the "IF." Carry on. Maybe if I threw a "-lobotomybeats 3:16" after it you would see that as gospel.
Nice. That Stone Cold line ran through my head when I read that.
Oh and the whole "I just believe Christ is the way" thing is your way of saying "This is why I believe everyone else is wrong." Where did I tell you to change the bible? I really hope you aren't this dense. Also, your "Jesus is made up" line really indicates how little you know about Atheist's views on Jesus. A lot of Atheist believe that were was a historical Jesus. "Son of God?" Not so much. Your ideas on what makes you heaven-worthy are so terribly flawed that I can only hope that no one close to you with any trace of understanding or knowledge ever dies. I'd hate for you to have to ponder if a wonderful person was heaven-worthy even though they subscribed to a different or no deity. I would hate for you to have to climb off the soapbox behind your lectern and make amends for their now burnt flesh. The forced humility would crush you.
It is what it is and its written as it was wrote. Too bad. Simple as that. I believe in what Jesus said. I'm not changing that just becausesomebody did nice things. He said if you deny me I will deny you. I can't change that. I can only inform. Deal with it just like I'm dealing with yourbeliefs.
And if you don't see how your "alcoholics = non-believers" analogy is a joke than there is little hope for you outside of possibly being an altar boy.
OK thanks.
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I'm not the most religious person, but to me logic like this is very flawed.
People expect for God to use "Divine Intervention" every time something goes wrong, someone get killed, someone goes hungry, etc. If that was the case Earth would be Heaven, nobody would get sick, get hurt, etc.
Yes, I question why stuff like this happens, but God gave every person on Earth free-will to do as he chooses. And I guess sometimes (on Earth) good doesn't triumph over evil.
Yeah but explain why it would happen (going hungry) to a little kid who's never done anything wrong. Or an innocent person getting killed. I could understand if it happens to someone who is a bad person but come on man. Think about it. Also, me eating, staying alive, or something going right isn't my picture of this so called "heaven" anyways.
insert typical "god only gives us what we can handle" b.s. logic here.
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Yeah but explain why it would happen (going hungry) to a little kid who's never done anything wrong. Or an innocent person getting killed. I could understand if it happens to someone who is a bad person but come on man. Think about it. Also, me eating, staying alive, or something going right isn't my picture of this so called "heaven" anyways.
The true question is, why do people not want to help the homeless and starving? We're always looking up for the miracle when we can be the miracle ourselves.
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Yeah but explain why it would happen (going hungry) to a little kid who's never done anything wrong. Or an innocent person getting killed. I could understand if it happens to someone who is a bad person but come on man. Think about it. Also, me eating, staying alive, or something going right isn't my picture of this so called "heaven" anyways.
insert typical "god only gives us what we can handle" b.s. logic here.
See you just trashed our beliefs. We give the reasons but its up to y'all to believe it.
Religion threads never end well
Of course not because there is always the casual "God doesn't exist" dude rolling through.
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Well wrestling is fake...Originally Posted by RKO2004
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Yeah the storylines and a few other things but the pain isn't. I used to getOriginally Posted by lobotomybeats
Well wrestling is fake...Originally Posted by RKO2004
Originally Posted by ReliantJ
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i don't believe in religion. at all. i'm not saying that i don't believe in an afterlife, but i definitely do not believe in an orthodox deity or aheaven or hell, per say. i feel a higher power in my soul, and i do think that there is more after death.
i just believe that you should put positive energy in the world, and it will come back to you.
religion, in short, was made to control and unify.... when in the history of humanity there has been more discourse and people killed in the name of religionthan for any other cause.
just look at this thread. we shouldn't be arguing about this.
the bible, quran and whatever other religious scriptures are just stories... allegories (
i am taking this idea from haze that's why i'mlaughing )
we are living in a world that is spoon feeding us fallacy.... you can say that we are in a trance. we need to transcend (i know i use that word a lot butwhatevs) the physical restraints we may have and become concerned with the metaphysical. find the key to unlock the ignorance that is imprisoning your mind.
[q-tip] if knowledge is the key just show me the lock [/q-tip]
i sound crazy
i just believe that you should put positive energy in the world, and it will come back to you.
religion, in short, was made to control and unify.... when in the history of humanity there has been more discourse and people killed in the name of religionthan for any other cause.
just look at this thread. we shouldn't be arguing about this.
the bible, quran and whatever other religious scriptures are just stories... allegories (
we are living in a world that is spoon feeding us fallacy.... you can say that we are in a trance. we need to transcend (i know i use that word a lot butwhatevs) the physical restraints we may have and become concerned with the metaphysical. find the key to unlock the ignorance that is imprisoning your mind.
[q-tip] if knowledge is the key just show me the lock [/q-tip]
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Originally Posted by ReliantJ
Anyone watching Ellen? Dude just proposed to a hottie
Wait what? You must be on the West. Ellen comes on at 4? We get it at 10 AM.
Take the Vid down man
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i dont believe in religion/afterlife, but shouldn't the only requirement be that you should be a good person while you're alive?
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Hmmm. If your kids grew up and became successful but gave you no acknowledgment and disowned you but you knew you were responsible for theirsuccess how would you feel?
The requirements seem to be on the same level as getting into Yale
Why you say that fam?
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Why you say that fam?Originally Posted by RKO2004
Hmmm. If your kids grew up and became successful but gave you no acknowledgment and disowned you but you knew you were responsible for their success how would you feel?
The requirements seem to be on the same level as getting into Yale
what exactly is the point of your question? i don't expect to be taken care of for the rest of my life, no matter how much i did for them. i'd do itout of love, not so i can get something back later in life. id love to see how you're going to spin this to where you think religion solves all wrongdoings
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Originally Posted by CWrite78
Why you say that fam?Originally Posted by RKO2004
Hmmm. If your kids grew up and became successful but gave you no acknowledgment and disowned you but you knew you were responsible for their success how would you feel?
The requirements seem to be on the same level as getting into Yale
what exactly is the point of your question? i don't expect to be taken care of for the rest of my life, no matter how much i did for them. i'd do it out of love, not so i can get something back later in life. id love to see how you're going to spin this to where you think religion solves all wrong doings
Do you read? I didn't say anything about them taking care of you. I'm talking about them treating you like they never knew you or give you any type ofcredit, not gifts, but the slightest thank you for helping them get to where they are.
I'm going to have to quit trying to reason with you dudes because y'all be laying there waiting to go in on somebody.
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Originally Posted by RKO2004
Originally Posted by CWrite78
Why you say that fam?Originally Posted by RKO2004
Hmmm. If your kids grew up and became successful but gave you no acknowledgment and disowned you but you knew you were responsible for their success how would you feel?
The requirements seem to be on the same level as getting into Yale
what exactly is the point of your question? i don't expect to be taken care of for the rest of my life, no matter how much i did for them. i'd do it out of love, not so i can get something back later in life. id love to see how you're going to spin this to where you think religion solves all wrong doings
Do you read? I didn't say anything about them taking care of you. I'm talking about them treating you like they never knew you or give you any type of credit, not gifts, but the slightest thank you for helping them get to where they are.
I'm going to have to quit trying to reason with you dudes because y'all be laying there waiting to go in on somebody.
i understood. and again, if it turns out like that.. well, what do you want to me to do? i believe every parent does what they do out of love, not for a thankyou or "slight credit". granted, a thank you once in awhile would be nice but my kids being successful is enough for me even if they disown me.
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Originally Posted by CWrite78
Originally Posted by RKO2004
Originally Posted by CWrite78
Why you say that fam?Originally Posted by RKO2004
Hmmm. If your kids grew up and became successful but gave you no acknowledgment and disowned you but you knew you were responsible for their success how would you feel?
The requirements seem to be on the same level as getting into Yale
what exactly is the point of your question? i don't expect to be taken care of for the rest of my life, no matter how much i did for them. i'd do it out of love, not so i can get something back later in life. id love to see how you're going to spin this to where you think religion solves all wrong doings
Do you read? I didn't say anything about them taking care of you. I'm talking about them treating you like they never knew you or give you any type of credit, not gifts, but the slightest thank you for helping them get to where they are.
I'm going to have to quit trying to reason with you dudes because y'all be laying there waiting to go in on somebody.
i understood. and again, if it turns out like that.. well, what do you want to me to do? i believe every parent does what they do out of love, not for a thank you or "slight credit". granted, a thank you once in awhile would be nice but my kids being successful is enough for me even if they disown me.
Of course parents shouldn't do things just for the sake of thank yous but I just wanted to see how you'd react.
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[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]OP, I'm pentecostal and this is all I have to say--[/color]
[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]"Follow your heart..."[/color]
"Follow your heart..."[/color]
[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]"Follow your heart..."[/color]
- [color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]I realize this sounds cliche, broad, and is polar to the definite answer you were most likely looking for, but truly--this is a journey you must "traverse" on your own.[/color]
- [color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]If you feel that God is calling you for some purpose, the decision to oblige or ignore His call is solely dependent on you. This is why we were given "free will". A matter such as this is between you, God, and no one else.[/color]
- [color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]Do not ask NKTLK for an opinion because there are simply too many conflicting beliefs and ideologies here. This accounts for both religious and secular NKTLKers.[/color]
- [color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]Don't even ask someone in the Church for advice because they would be just as biased as the Atheist next door.[/color]
- [color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]The point is, this is something between you and God; also, realize that there aren't any definite guidelines for getting into heaven. I believe, however, that if you're doing the "right-things", you'll feel it within; and if you continue doing these "right-things", you would, at the very least, have lived a wholesome and positive life...[/color]
"Follow your heart..."[/color]
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but you don't believe in hell though...
didnt catch the sarcasm in ummm that's mean. And it doesnt matter whether I believe in it or not. The fact is someone is saying harm will becaused on me whether theyre blowing smoke through their bible is irrellevant
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religion does nothing but divide- the GZA
money and religion was the cause of all the wars or at least 95 percent of them
it was created by man.. i really don't think us as a human race is grasping the right idea.
money and religion was the cause of all the wars or at least 95 percent of them
it was created by man.. i really don't think us as a human race is grasping the right idea.