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its thanks to this thread that i got another interview last week, keep pushing fellas were all going to flourish 
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I've noticed that as well. And I wouldn't expect Waterfall to go anywhere, just think that it's impractical for IT projects, which is what I'm aiming for.


I'm just trying to get my foot in the door somewhere, hell, I'd take this PM course on Coursera if I knew it'd help me out. :lol:


But after reading everybody's response, it seems like the CAPM is a waste of time and money :lol:
It's not impractical. Each methodology has its ups and downs. Waterfall allows you to do a lot of planning with documentation if you need a very rigid system with processes or technology that isn't well understood. Many IT projects in my org have to fall under waterfall simply because we roll out in monthly releases. You can't leverage agile when you dont have the flexibility to choose when to move code from environment to environment. This is simply the case for SAP projects. Changes to production requires you to fall under specific monthly dates to minimize the negative impact to our systems and to ensure support is available should that happen.

Other than scrum, waterfall is the most common used methodology at the last two organizations I've worked at. I'd imagine it's less common in smaller orgs though.

Ok, I get it in that aspect since the time frame was small and frequent. I did a small project w/ a website redesign and I treated it like a large project, did a project management plan and everything though there wasn't much information :lol: We ended adopting Agile since we were both kinda fresh w/ coding and web design and had to keep going over our work, testing, and repeating that process.

I think when it's all said and done, I have to get this CAPM cert since my background doesn't give me enough credit to get a PM job w/o it. Sucks but hopefully this $300 will give me a good return on my investment.
 
Ok, I get it in that aspect since the time frame was small and frequent. I did a small project w/ a website redesign and I treated it like a large project, did a project management plan and everything though there wasn't much information
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We ended adopting Agile since we were both kinda fresh w/ coding and web design and had to keep going over our work, testing, and repeating that process.

I think when it's all said and done, I have to get this CAPM cert since my background doesn't give me enough credit to get a PM job w/o it. Sucks but hopefully this $300 will give me a good return on my investment.
Web projects are usually good candidates for agile since the repercussions arent as impactful. If you are set on being a PM, a CAPM might not be a bad thing to get to get you into the door. You can get entry-level PM or PC jobs straight out of college though but many PMs start off as analysts or developers. My first job out of college was an IT PM but I hated it. PM in the real world was nothing like PM for my class projects.
 
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Ok, I get it in that aspect since the time frame was small and frequent. I did a small project w/ a website redesign and I treated it like a large project, did a project management plan and everything though there wasn't much information :lol: We ended adopting Agile since we were both kinda fresh w/ coding and web design and had to keep going over our work, testing, and repeating that process.


I think when it's all said and done, I have to get this CAPM cert since my background doesn't give me enough credit to get a PM job w/o it. Sucks but hopefully this $300 will give me a good return on my investment.
Web projects are usually good candidates for agile since the repercussions arent as impactful. If you are set on being a PM, a CAPM might not be a bad thing to get to get you into the door. You can get entry-level PM or PC jobs straight out of college though but many PMs start off as analysts or developers. My first job out of college was an IT PM but I hated it. PM in the real world was nothing like PM for my class projects.

Yea, I wasn't even thinking about PM in undergrad, it was all about going to law school :smh:. I can't even get in as an analyst because of the lack of exp. I figure I'll have a 3.5 yrs to get my exp after getting my CAPM so that I can sit for the PMP afterwards.
 
Yea, I wasn't even thinking about PM in undergrad, it was all about going to law school
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. I can't even get in as an analyst because of the lack of exp. I figure I'll have a 3.5 yrs to get my exp after getting my CAPM so that I can sit for the PMP afterwards.
They arent very common but there are entry level positions out there that require little to no experience. That's where having some internship or even help desk experience really helps.
 
Yea, I wasn't even thinking about PM in undergrad, it was all about going to law school :smh: . I can't even get in as an analyst because of the lack of exp. I figure I'll have a 3.5 yrs to get my exp after getting my CAPM so that I can sit for the PMP afterwards.
They arent very common but there are entry level positions out there that require little to no experience. That's where having some internship or even help desk experience really helps.

Yea, I've noticed. They are out there, just not where I'm at because half of these companies don't know what being a PM really is.
 
Update: Today I get a call for a second position at another company closer to home with similar pay rates. Going for the 2nd interview on Thursday. Really don't know which to pick. Could you guys chime in with similar experiences in helping make a decision.
 
Update: Today I get a call for a second position at another company closer to home with similar pay rates. Going for the 2nd interview on Thursday. Really don't know which to pick. Could you guys chime in with similar experiences in helping make a decision.
need more info fam.

What's the culture like for both ? Are both in the same industry? What kind of development/training do both provide? 
 
Update: Today I get a call for a second position at another company closer to home with similar pay rates. Going for the 2nd interview on Thursday. Really don't know which to pick. Could you guys chime in with similar experiences in helping make a decision.
Worry about that when you have the final offers on the table.

Until then, keep pushing.
 
Update: Today I get a call for a second position at another company closer to home with similar pay rates. Going for the 2nd interview on Thursday. Really don't know which to pick. Could you guys chime in with similar experiences in helping make a decision.
Always take the guarantee over the maybe. If it comes down to it where prospect B is better then just leave A.

I've been in that spot many times before, where the better job takes longer, and I used to always lean towards giving up the guaranteed offer for the maybe, and it never worked out in my favour.

At a point I just decided to stop doing it, and came across a situation where I interviewed for Job A, B, and C within the same time window. Job A came back first with a guaranteed offer and I took it, but really wanted Job B or C, especially C. Job B was interviewing me faster so I figured they would be next up and if I had to leave Job A for B, I definitely would. Job B came back and said they weren't going to hire me so I made the right call in that regard. Then job C gets back in the race, I get that job, my ideal choice out of the three, and quit job A, less than two months after getting it for C.

Then two months ago job B calls back and asks if I'm still interested. I tell them no and direct them to a friend.

You can always just quit man, they would fire you in a second if they had to, you owe them nothing.
 
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Always take the guarantee over the maybe. If it comes down to it where prospect B is better then just leave A.

I've been in that spot many times before, where the better job takes longer, and I used to always lean towards giving up the guaranteed offer for the maybe, and it never worked out in my favour.

At a point I just decided to stop doing it, and came across a situation where I interviewed for Job A, B, and C within the same time window. Job A came back first with a guaranteed offer and I took it, but really wanted Job B or C, especially C. Job B was interviewing me faster so I figured they would be next up and if I had to leave Job A for B, I definitely would. Job B came back and said they weren't going to hire me so I made the right call in that regard. Then job C gets back in the race, I get that job, my ideal choice out of the three, and quit job A, less than two months after getting it for C.

Then two months ago job B calls back and asks if I'm still interested. I tell them no and direct them to a friend.

You can always just quit man, they would fire you in a second if they had to, you owe them nothing.
Funny you mentioned this .... Like I said before my boy ended up taking a job at BestBuy - he was doing all the paperwork when Walmart called, he was leaning to Walmart because although it pay less it was just convinient ... He called back to talk about benefits and the HR person told him sorry, I was about to call you today ... the position was given to someone within the Company.

LOL ... Dude almost called BestBuy to tell them he had a changed of mind, but Walmart already had moved forward without him although the position was offered to him.
 
Exactly, I've had that happen before. Just take the guaranteed offer and wait it out. Not doing so could cause you to lose both.
 
Applied for a job and did an initial phone interview. The recruiter called and I think it went well. 15 minutes after the phone screening, the recruiter added me on LinkedIn. Good sign?

Hoping I get an in-person interview and eventually get this one. The base pay would be a 26% increase over what I currently make. 

With that said, I received a promotion offer from my current job with a 6% increase from my current position smh. Would a counter offer of 9.5% be pushing it?‎
 
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Currently trying to write a CV for Project Manager positions.
Applied for a job and did an initial phone interview. The recruiter called and I think it went well. 15 minutes after the phone screening, the recruiter added me on LinkedIn. Good sign?

Hoping I get an in-person interview and eventually get this one. The base pay would be a 26% increase over what I currently make. 

With that said, I received a promotion offer from my current job with a 6% increase from my current position smh. Would a counter offer of 9.5% be pushing it?‎

It depends, if you don't then you never know but you could also rub somebody the wrong way as being ungrateful :rolleyes . If you feel like you're good and a little "secure" at your gig, ask for the increase, if not, don't risk it.


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I've been struggling to write this project manager CV for the past two days; hard to write about experience you don't have :smh: :lol: Tryna upsell the hell out of myself in this dip.
 
Applied for a job and did an initial phone interview. The recruiter called and I think it went well. 15 minutes after the phone screening, the recruiter added me on LinkedIn. Good sign?

Hoping I get an in-person interview and eventually get this one. The base pay would be a 26% increase over what I currently make. 

With that said, I received a promotion offer from my current job with a 6% increase from my current position smh. Would a counter offer of 9.5% be pushing it?‎

You can always counter. You know your worth better than we do.
 
NT fam, wanted to get your thoughts on this:

- I'm currently working full-time in an unrelated field.

- I do consulting work on the side for a woman who runs her own boutique consulting firm. It's a field I want to do long-term.

- She doesn't know that I'm employed. I've helped her a bit on some minor projects over the past year.

- She only paid me once on a previous major project.

- I tried to get my brother an internship with her / get her to talk to him. She's basically ignored his emails when he reached out to her. I ask her if he's reached out and she ignores my questions too.

- I've been going ghost on her when she asks for help. She asked for help on a major project today. I told her I'm "busy on the job hunt" and can help her when I have free time. She said this project requires 3-4 weeks and that she needs someone who can commit 30-40 full-time hours/week. She "can't have someone who jumps in and out." She has not mentioned compensation at all and seemed to be super salty.

The audacity of this bird is mind-boggling. I'm inclined to ignore her once again, but she has connections and has an Ivy League MBA (my top MBA goal).

What do you guys recommend? The way I see it, I get no benefit from doing work for her + she hasn't even offered to help me in any way (for all the free work I've done for her). I wanted to help my brother the most, but she's ignored him even after she told me she'd be happy to talk to him.
 
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NT fam, wanted to get your thoughts on this:

- I'm currently working full-time in an unrelated field.
- I do consulting work on the side for a woman who runs her own boutique consulting firm. It's a field I want to do long-term.
- She doesn't know that I'm employed. I've helped her a bit on some minor projects over the past year.
- She only paid me once on a previous major project.
- I tried to get my brother an internship with her / get her to talk to him. She's basically ignored his emails when he reached out to her. I ask her if he's reached out and she ignores my questions too.
- I've been going ghost on her when she asks for help. She asked for help on a major project today. I told her I'm "busy on the job hunt" and can help her when I have free time. She said this project requires 3-4 weeks and that she needs someone who can commit 30-40 full-time hours/week. She "can't have someone who jumps in and out." She has not mentioned compensation at all and seemed to be super salty.

The audacity of this bird is mind-boggling. I'm inclined to ignore her once again, but she has connections and has an Ivy League MBA (my top MBA goal).

What do you guys recommend? The way I see it, I get no benefit from doing work for her + she hasn't even offered to help me in any way (for all the free work I've done for her). I wanted to help my brother the most, but she's ignored him even after she told me she'd be happy to talk to him.

Talk to her about it and be straight forward, about the project, compensation, your brother, and her terrible lack of communication.
 
Has anyone ever worked in banking as a teller?

I have. Whatever you do don't work @ TD Bank. America's most convenient bank = crappy hours for you, a hit on your social life, & open on Sundays. Also, don't work @ a bank in the hood.
 
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