4:20 News CALI LEGAL

I'd vote for it, But it wouldn't pass. Then again I a lot has happened as of late I didn't think would ever happen. So I wouldn't completelyshoot it down.
 
Originally Posted by atljunkie

This is pretty dumb. People will get higher than hell, and completely bring down society and its norms , by making stupid decisions.
Any substance that alters your state of mind is a drug. It slows reaction times down which will cause a lot more problems for those who choose to "smoke and drive."

I already know there are people who do that now, and might not have had accidents or whatever. Good for them!
This will only increase the number of people who will, therefore making the chances of that happening much more likely.

The only way I would be for this to happen, is if by the money (revenue) they make from it gets put to good use.
Such as building back up the education level, and giving the state workers who were furloughed there days back!

Call this opinion biased or what have you, but legalizing marijuana doesn't seem too practical to me at all.
As we already know, I am entitled to my own opinion respectfully so, just as you are.


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Man you're brainwashed going to be one of those cops who bust people for stupidest #@+# ever.

Seriously, there is NOTHING wrong with driving high. I can drive high perfectly fine, not exaggerated one bit. Took all my driving classes high even.

How is it NOT practical? And to have alcohol legal and marijuana not be, that's just absurd.
 
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just because you can do it doesnt mean others can

i know that when i
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(having your medical card in cali ftw) i would never go out and drive at the peak of my high. i just can't do it.

however, if i had to guess, i'd say i would be a much safer driver high than drunk (not that i do either)
 
The Golden State has to be stupid not to do it. They have a giant source of revenue that's untapped and people are tired of not dipping into it. We can getrid of these piece of $$%% mexican cartels that are ruining our state and country, most of their money comes of us not legalizing green. Catch them with thewhite, and we will hang them by their ankles. Obama is on some bull himself, walking away from marijuana, when on his own website it was the most requestedsubject matter to resolve. California needs to be its own country and leave the rest of the nation. It would be better everyone.
 
Few Q's
1. What would be the regulations?
2. How much per gram (with the new imposed taxes)?
3. Do you think they would lower the potency?
 
Originally Posted by realxfresh

Few Q's
1. What would be the regulations?
2. How much per gram (with the new imposed taxes)?
3. Do you think they would lower the potency?
1. probably similar or a little stricter than alcohol
2. take similar prices to what you cop from your dude around the corner and add tax
3. why would they same people would be growing as now
 
Originally Posted by realxfresh

Few Q's
1. What would be the regulations?
2. How much per gram (with the new imposed taxes)?
3. Do you think they would lower the potency?
You cant sell to anyone under 21... drug dealers would still have a job but might get knocked on tax evasion instead of trafficking...

prices per gram would depend on the seller...
most anywhere from 5 - 45 a gram is feasible...

prices per once would certainly drop even with this new tax...

how would they lower the potency.. potency depends on grower now if its legal or not...
 
are people really saying that cali should secede from the united states? do any of you know how govt works? if they are in debt right now do you think they arereally gonna be able to create their own currency develop there own military, legal system, govt, how would they deal with paying taxes on exporting andimporting goods after becoming a new country? if they became a country every criminal residing in cali would no longer be criminals because their crimes werecommitted in the us, basically for that to work they would be a principality and might as well still be a state,like seriously yall the ones sound like yoursmoking something.
 
Originally Posted by JuJu

are people really saying that cali should secede from the united states? do any of you know how govt works? if they are in debt right now do you think they are really gonna be able to create their own currency develop there own military, legal system, govt, how would they deal with paying taxes on exporting and importing goods after becoming a new country? if they became a country every criminal residing in cali would no longer be criminals because their crimes were committed in the us, basically for that to work they would be a principality and might as well still be a state,like seriously yall the ones sound like your smoking something.
I don't think people really want Cali to leave the us.. is just that there so liberal they seem more like a euro country then a state in theus...
 
man this has been legal. in west hollywood they can't stop you for it. and plus medical licenses have been distributed
 
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Imagine a carton of pre-rolled blunts for $6 plus tax...
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What kinda $$$%#!% bobby brown $%%$ would be rolled in them things???



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a wrap itself is already a dollar. Thats some bottom of the bag, 5 month old, dried up dirty stems.
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In Amsterdam they sell pre-rolled joints, but I was told never to buy them. They usually just roll the old shake in them.
[Cam'ron] If you don't break the weed up yourself and roll your own blunts, ya own brother would sell you some dust[/Cam'ron]
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PS: LA Times Article
http://www.latimes.com/ne...677.story?vote45247971=1

[h1]Taxing pot could become a political toking point[/h1]
An Assemblyman from San Francisco argues that it's time to tax and regulate the state's biggest cash crop in the same manner as alcohol. Opponents say it would create new costs for society.
By Eric Bailey

February 24, 2009

Reporting from Sacramento - Could Cannabis sativa be a salvation for California's fiscal misfortunes? Can the state get a better budget grip bytaxing what some folks toke?

An assemblyman from San Francisco announced legislation Monday to do just that: make California the first state in the nation to tax and regulate recreationalmarijuana in the same manner as alcohol.

Buoyed by the widely held belief that cannabis is California's biggest cash crop, Assemblyman Tom Ammiano contends it is time to reap some state revenuefrom that harvest while putting a damper on drug use by teens, cutting police costs and even helping Mother Nature.

"I know the jokes are going to be coming, but this is not a frivolous issue," said Ammiano, a Democrat elected in November after more than a dozenyears as a San Francisco supervisor. "California always takes the lead -- on gay marriage, the sanctuary movement, medical marijuana."

Anti-drug groups are anything but amused by the idea of California collecting a windfall from the leafy herb that remains illegal under federal law.

"This would open another door in Pandora's box," said Calvina Fay, executive director of Save Our Society From Drugs. "Legalizing drugs likethis would create a whole new set of costs for society."

Ammiano's measure, AB 390, would essentially replicate the regulatory structure used for beer, wine and hard liquor, with taxed sales barred to anyoneunder 21.

He said it would actually boost public safety, keeping law enforcement focused on more serious crimes while keeping marijuana away from teenagers who canreadily purchase black-market pot from peers.

The natural world would benefit, too, from the uprooting of environmentally destructive backcountry pot plantations that denude fragile ecosystems, Ammianosaid.

But the biggest boon might be to the bottom line. By some estimates, California's pot crop is a $14-billion industry, putting it above vegetables ($5.7billion) and grapes ($2.6 billion). If so, that could mean upward of $1 billion in tax revenue for the state each year.

"Having just closed a $42-billion budget deficit, generating new revenue is crucial to the state's long-term fiscal health," said Betty Yee, thestate Board of Equalization chairwoman who appeared with Ammiano at a San Francisco news conference.

Also in support of opening debate on the issue are San Francisco Sheriff Mike Hennessey and retired Orange County Superior Court Judge James Gray, a longtimelegalization proponent.

"I'm a martini guy myself," Ammiano said. "But I think it's time for California to . . . look at this in a truly deliberativefashion."

He sees the possibility of an eventual truce in the marijuana wars with Barack Obama now in the White House.

A White House spokesman declined to discuss Ammiano's legislation, instead pointing to a transition website that says the president "is not in favorof the legalization of marijuana."

Several cities in California and around the nation have adopted laws making marijuana the lowest law enforcement priority, including Santa Barbara, SantaMonica, Denver and Seattle.

Oakland went even further in 2004, requiring pot to be taxed if it is legalized.

But where Ammiano sees taxes, pot foes see trouble.

They say easier access means more problems with drug dependency among adults, heavier teen use and an increase in driving while high.

"If we think the drug cartels are going to tuck their tails between their legs and go home, I think we're badly mistaken," Fay said.

"They're going to heavily target our children."

eric.bailey@latimes.com
 
Originally Posted by CoolLiquidFlames

Originally Posted by Ryda421

man this has been legal. in west hollywood they can't stop you for it. and plus medical licenses have been distributed

this would make it legal on paper, not in out minds and hearts... its always legal where I'm at....


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Originally Posted by Prince Of Shoes HEAD

so when will we find out when the law passed or not?

I read somewhere they said it could take up to 2 years to pass. but I think since this is generating a lot of publicity we could maybe find out by the end ofthis year I hope.

btw if you are interested in legalization of pot you should call/write your local congressmen, I wrote a short letter and mailed it to both senators plus thegovernor and my congressmen, the more people make their presence known for the support of AB 390 the more likely it will pass, politicians serve in thepublic's interest
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They say easier access means more problems with drug dependency among adults, heavier teen use and an increase in driving while high.

"If we think the drug cartels are going to tuck their tails between their legs and go home, I think we're badly mistaken," Fay said.

"They're going to heavily target our children."
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Marijuana Dependency?

Drug cartels panicking off of trees??

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I think the only acknowledgeable counterpoint is the increase in blazing and driving. That is however, a pretty big problem. Needs to be some kind ofchecking system.
 
Originally Posted by ItsGettinHot

They say easier access means more problems with drug dependency among adults, heavier teen use and an increase in driving while high.

"If we think the drug cartels are going to tuck their tails between their legs and go home, I think we're badly mistaken," Fay said.

"They're going to heavily target our children."
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Marijuana Dependency?

Drug cartels panicking off of trees??

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I think the only acknowledgeable counterpoint is the increase in blazing and driving. That is however, a pretty big problem. Needs to be some kind of checking system.




what's wrong with blazing and driving?
 
SpringfieldXD wrote:
Originally Posted by ItsGettinHot

They say easier access means more problems with drug dependency among adults, heavier teen use and an increase in driving while high.

"If we think the drug cartels are going to tuck their tails between their legs and go home, I think we're badly mistaken," Fay said.

"They're going to heavily target our children."
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Marijuana Dependency?

Drug cartels panicking off of trees??

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I think the only acknowledgeable counterpoint is the increase in blazing and driving. That is however, a pretty big problem. Needs to be some kind of checking system.




what's wrong with blazing and driving?


Nothing
 
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