Any Engineer Majors?.... School me.

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I'm thing about going into college with a different major ( wanted to major in business )... but from what I've heard, a degree in engineering isALWAYS in high demand.

School me, I don't want to be one of those dudes to enter college without a SET plan.
 
Do you want to have a piece of paper that is in high demand, or a mind set that is in high demand.
 
It depends on which engineering field you get into. Not all fields will be in high demand. Biomedical Engineering is probably one of the best right now though.
 
Originally Posted by nycknicks105

It depends on which engineering field you get into. Not all fields will be in high demand. Biomedical Engineering is probably one of the best right now though.
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[color= rgb(102, 0, 153)]My school Civil engineering has the highest demand...i think they had 90% 4 yearsstudents to get a job after college, and I'm talking about URI[/color]
 
I am in my 3rd year in Mechanical Engineering at The University of Akron. It is a 5 year program here, try to go to a school where they offer a co-opprogram. Co-op is where you get to work for a company for a couple semesters after your 2nd year (Co-Op is why it becomes 5 year program, no Co-op makes it a 4year program), get paid very nice, and get experience. Companies aren't really hiring people these days unless they have experience. I currently work forDominion East Ohio, which is the gas company here in Ohio.

As for Engineering:

Prepare to study your %@% off, it isn't so bad till I say your Junior year. I mean I would have to study all day to maintainwith all the things they throw at you but if you work hard at it, do your work, it is manageable, you just really have not time to slack off. Some of topicsyou learn are very different/hard, and it's always good to have a very good background in science and math. Engineering is def one of the hardest majorsyou can pick but in the real world it works wonders. Basically if you have a degree in some sort of engineering there are numerous and I mean numerous jobs youcan get. I work at the gas company and we have over 300+ engineers who all do something very different.

Right now I am on Co-op so we have to work this semester, but a tip for you is, if your on Co-op try to take once class during Co-op, so it will be aneasier load when you come back next semester.

Another thing about engineering (maybe all majors) the stuff I learned at school, I have yet to use on the job. The engineers around me told me you rarely everuse something you learn in school, at best you might use couple equations, basically they put you through all those hard classes to teach you how to think.

wish I could of been more organized with my thoughts, I was going off the top of my head

good luck
 
[color= rgb(102, 0, 153)]^^^^Would you say you're 1st 2 years were tough? People told me the beginning was hell butJunior year so on was easier. Taking those Physics courses were tough[/color]
 
Originally Posted by thekillerj23


I am in my 3rd year in Mechanical Engineering at The University of Akron. It is a 5 year program here, try to go to a school where they offer a co-op program. Co-op is where you get to work for a company for a couple semesters after your 2nd year (Co-Op is why it becomes 5 year program, no Co-op makes it a 4 year program), get paid very nice, and get experience. Companies aren't really hiring people these days unless they have experience. I currently work for Dominion East Ohio, which is the gas company here in Ohio.

As for Engineering:

Prepare to study your %@% off, it isn't so bad till I say your Junior year. I mean I would have to study all day to maintain with all the things they throw at you but if you work hard at it, do your work, it is manageable, you just really have not time to slack off. Some of topics you learn are very different/hard, and it's always good to have a very good background in science and math. Engineering is def one of the hardest majors you can pick but in the real world it works wonders. Basically if you have a degree in some sort of engineering there are numerous and I mean numerous jobs you can get. I work at the gas company and we have over 300+ engineers who all do something very different.

Right now I am on Co-op so we have to work this semester, but a tip for you is, if your on Co-op try to take once class during Co-op, so it will be an easier load when you come back next semester.

Another thing about engineering (maybe all majors) the stuff I learned at school, I have yet to use on the job. The engineers around me told me you rarely ever use something you learn in school, at best you might use couple equations, basically they put you through all those hard classes to teach you how to think.

wish I could of been more organized with my thoughts, I was going off the top of my head

good luck
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Thats some good information son....

Basically I want a job to have me and my fam not worry about anything.... like bills and such.

Is co-op the best way to go, to get a job RIGHT OUT OF college?
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Originally Posted by Spot Rusherz

Originally Posted by thekillerj23


I am in my 3rd year in Mechanical Engineering at The University of Akron. It is a 5 year program here, try to go to a school where they offer a co-op program. Co-op is where you get to work for a company for a couple semesters after your 2nd year (Co-Op is why it becomes 5 year program, no Co-op makes it a 4 year program), get paid very nice, and get experience. Companies aren't really hiring people these days unless they have experience. I currently work for Dominion East Ohio, which is the gas company here in Ohio.

As for Engineering:

Prepare to study your %@% off, it isn't so bad till I say your Junior year. I mean I would have to study all day to maintain with all the things they throw at you but if you work hard at it, do your work, it is manageable, you just really have not time to slack off. Some of topics you learn are very different/hard, and it's always good to have a very good background in science and math. Engineering is def one of the hardest majors you can pick but in the real world it works wonders. Basically if you have a degree in some sort of engineering there are numerous and I mean numerous jobs you can get. I work at the gas company and we have over 300+ engineers who all do something very different.

Right now I am on Co-op so we have to work this semester, but a tip for you is, if your on Co-op try to take once class during Co-op, so it will be an easier load when you come back next semester.

Another thing about engineering (maybe all majors) the stuff I learned at school, I have yet to use on the job. The engineers around me told me you rarely ever use something you learn in school, at best you might use couple equations, basically they put you through all those hard classes to teach you how to think.

wish I could of been more organized with my thoughts, I was going off the top of my head

good luck
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Thats some good information son....

Basically I want a job to have me and my fam not worry about anything.... like bills and such.

Is co-op the best way to go, to get a job RIGHT OUT OF college?
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Doing anything just for the money will get you nowhere.

Find something you love to do, be the best at it, and the money will follow you.
 
^^^^^^^^^

I would say so, here at Akron, 98% of the kids do Co-op find a job right away, usually with the company you co-op with. The kids who don't do Co-op arestill looking for a job. Right now I would say my chances are pretty good to get hired with the company I am on Co-op with.

Co-op also helps you out financially because Co-op's pay well, so it is a good way to pay for college, save up, etc ( wayyyy better than any typicalcollege job)
 
Originally Posted by Durden7

Originally Posted by Spot Rusherz

Originally Posted by thekillerj23


I am in my 3rd year in Mechanical Engineering at The University of Akron. It is a 5 year program here, try to go to a school where they offer a co-op program. Co-op is where you get to work for a company for a couple semesters after your 2nd year (Co-Op is why it becomes 5 year program, no Co-op makes it a 4 year program), get paid very nice, and get experience. Companies aren't really hiring people these days unless they have experience. I currently work for Dominion East Ohio, which is the gas company here in Ohio.

As for Engineering:

Prepare to study your %@% off, it isn't so bad till I say your Junior year. I mean I would have to study all day to maintain with all the things they throw at you but if you work hard at it, do your work, it is manageable, you just really have not time to slack off. Some of topics you learn are very different/hard, and it's always good to have a very good background in science and math. Engineering is def one of the hardest majors you can pick but in the real world it works wonders. Basically if you have a degree in some sort of engineering there are numerous and I mean numerous jobs you can get. I work at the gas company and we have over 300+ engineers who all do something very different.

Right now I am on Co-op so we have to work this semester, but a tip for you is, if your on Co-op try to take once class during Co-op, so it will be an easier load when you come back next semester.

Another thing about engineering (maybe all majors) the stuff I learned at school, I have yet to use on the job. The engineers around me told me you rarely ever use something you learn in school, at best you might use couple equations, basically they put you through all those hard classes to teach you how to think.

wish I could of been more organized with my thoughts, I was going off the top of my head

good luck
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Thats some good information son....

Basically I want a job to have me and my fam not worry about anything.... like bills and such.

Is co-op the best way to go, to get a job RIGHT OUT OF college?
nerd.gif
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Doing anything just for the money will get you nowhere.
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Who told you that lie?
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killerj check ya PM....
 
Originally Posted by Mac A Roni

^^^^Would you say you're 1st 2 years were tough? People told me the beginning was hell but Junior year so on was easier. Taking those Physics courses were tough
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For me the first two year were much easier, well def first 1.5 years then junior year.

Here is classes I took beginning of my 2nd year
Fall 2nd year

Physics I
statics
calculus II
Humanities West Trad I

(all of those I would say only one of those is a true eng class and that is statics)

Spring 2nd year

physics II
Calculus III
Dynamics
Mechainics of Solids
Prob & Stat for Eng

(out of all those, I would say 2 of those are true eng classes, Mechanics of Solids, Dynamics)

Now here is what I took Fall of my 3rd year

Thermodynamics I
Fluid Mechanics I
Kinematics
Analyzing Mechanical Components
Engineering Analysis II

Here you have 5 true engineering classes, which is much more than preivous years and much harder

And This semester I am on Co-op but taking thermodyanics II so my semester won't be loaded with as many engineering classes when I go back to school.

*edit*

I kind of get where your coming from, I mean if you can get past those first 2 years (since those classes are harder than what you had in high school) you willbe pretty much fine after all that

I mean if a kid can get thorough all the basic physics, calculus classes, you will be alright when you hit all those engineering classes, because you haveshown you have the work ethic

so i get what your saying but its def not easier, it just shows you can do it by your junior year.
 
Originally Posted by Spot Rusherz

What are some good engineering fields?
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Just go to google and type in Mechanical, Civil, Biomedical, Polymer etc do get an idea one that you like because there all very different,

Your first 2 years of all engineering is pretty much the same till you get to your junior year, and then you get to classes that focus more on your field.

alright ya, I gotta get back to work but spot just hit me up on aim or something if you had more questions.
 
Originally Posted by Spot Rusherz

Originally Posted by Durden7

Originally Posted by Spot Rusherz

Originally Posted by thekillerj23


I am in my 3rd year in Mechanical Engineering at The University of Akron. It is a 5 year program here, try to go to a school where they offer a co-op program. Co-op is where you get to work for a company for a couple semesters after your 2nd year (Co-Op is why it becomes 5 year program, no Co-op makes it a 4 year program), get paid very nice, and get experience. Companies aren't really hiring people these days unless they have experience. I currently work for Dominion East Ohio, which is the gas company here in Ohio.

As for Engineering:

Prepare to study your %@% off, it isn't so bad till I say your Junior year. I mean I would have to study all day to maintain with all the things they throw at you but if you work hard at it, do your work, it is manageable, you just really have not time to slack off. Some of topics you learn are very different/hard, and it's always good to have a very good background in science and math. Engineering is def one of the hardest majors you can pick but in the real world it works wonders. Basically if you have a degree in some sort of engineering there are numerous and I mean numerous jobs you can get. I work at the gas company and we have over 300+ engineers who all do something very different.

Right now I am on Co-op so we have to work this semester, but a tip for you is, if your on Co-op try to take once class during Co-op, so it will be an easier load when you come back next semester.

Another thing about engineering (maybe all majors) the stuff I learned at school, I have yet to use on the job. The engineers around me told me you rarely ever use something you learn in school, at best you might use couple equations, basically they put you through all those hard classes to teach you how to think.

wish I could of been more organized with my thoughts, I was going off the top of my head

good luck
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Thats some good information son....

Basically I want a job to have me and my fam not worry about anything.... like bills and such.

Is co-op the best way to go, to get a job RIGHT OUT OF college?
nerd.gif
Click to expand...


Doing anything just for the money will get you nowhere.
Click to expand...
Who told you that lie?
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killerj check ya PM....
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How is that a lie? Whats so wrong with that statement?
 
if you have the grind it takes to be an engineer and don't even like engineering, that same grind could get you in a good situation in something you like(this is all assuming you dont like engineering and you just doing it for the money) but engineering companies are feeling the effects of the economy too. there are engineering companies laying of engineers nationwide. but generally engineering is supposed to be one of the more job secure fields
 
Originally Posted by Spot Rusherz

Originally Posted by Durden7

Originally Posted by Spot Rusherz

Originally Posted by thekillerj23


I am in my 3rd year in Mechanical Engineering at The University of Akron. It is a 5 year program here, try to go to a school where they offer a co-op program. Co-op is where you get to work for a company for a couple semesters after your 2nd year (Co-Op is why it becomes 5 year program, no Co-op makes it a 4 year program), get paid very nice, and get experience. Companies aren't really hiring people these days unless they have experience. I currently work for Dominion East Ohio, which is the gas company here in Ohio.

As for Engineering:

Prepare to study your %@% off, it isn't so bad till I say your Junior year. I mean I would have to study all day to maintain with all the things they throw at you but if you work hard at it, do your work, it is manageable, you just really have not time to slack off. Some of topics you learn are very different/hard, and it's always good to have a very good background in science and math. Engineering is def one of the hardest majors you can pick but in the real world it works wonders. Basically if you have a degree in some sort of engineering there are numerous and I mean numerous jobs you can get. I work at the gas company and we have over 300+ engineers who all do something very different.

Right now I am on Co-op so we have to work this semester, but a tip for you is, if your on Co-op try to take once class during Co-op, so it will be an easier load when you come back next semester.

Another thing about engineering (maybe all majors) the stuff I learned at school, I have yet to use on the job. The engineers around me told me you rarely ever use something you learn in school, at best you might use couple equations, basically they put you through all those hard classes to teach you how to think.

wish I could of been more organized with my thoughts, I was going off the top of my head

good luck
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Thats some good information son....

Basically I want a job to have me and my fam not worry about anything.... like bills and such.

Is co-op the best way to go, to get a job RIGHT OUT OF college?
nerd.gif
Click to expand...


Doing anything just for the money will get you nowhere.
Click to expand...
Who told you that lie?
laugh.gif





killerj check ya PM....
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ahh kids. I await your future FML entry.
 
Alot of guys are giving good advice, so I'm just going to elaborate on specific subject. If you chose to go into Engineering, make sure you have this:


"Word"


I'm not sure what the jargon is at other schools and if this term is universal,but Word basically comes from the idea that frats used to throw old course materials into microsoft word documents and pass them down line, generation. Thisidea is in the engineering world is usually not facilitated by frats (unless you go to an engineering school MIT, Georgia Tech, Purdue etc.) because alot ofFrats usually have guys with easy majors. Business, Public Policy, Sports management, etc. Majors that allow you to party weekly, sometimes even daily andstill get a 3.5.

So how does one get word? From upper classmen. Ask around, network your @%% off.

Word consist of old exams with answer keys, quizes with answer keys, labs, homework solutions manuals, et.c
Word cuts your studying time in half. Instead of attempting to learn everything in the book or that might be on the test. You simply learn (or memorize)everything that will be on the test. Now this varies. If your teacher has been teaching the class since 1992, and putsevery single old exam online then word becomes less useful because he has already made so many exams the chances of a question you actusally worked outshowing up on the test are slim. Word works well when your professor does not put up old exams. This indiciates he or she probably has 2 or 3 test that theyconstantly recycle or a bed of 10 questions and they pick 6 from them for the test.

This works even better when the professor teaches the class rarely, maybe once every 2-3 years. If you manage to get the old exams, chances are the exam save aquestion or two are identical. Or, the exam is identical
pimp.gif
. You aregarunteed an A on the exam in this case and you can crank the dougie as you finish your 1 hour exam in 20 minutes and laugh at nerds who are sweating inlecture hall over problems that you know are impossible to solve in 1 hour.

With labs, if you are an Electrical or Computer Engineer your going to encounter labs in your weed out classes that are impossible to do. Old labs might not beexactly the same, but the programming structure is similar. You can use this as a template and simply switch up values. Everytextbook has a solution manual.It would be in your best interest to acquire this. Your going to run into days when you dont have time to do HW and thiswill come in handy.

Word is great but in some classes this is not a great idea. For example, if your an Electrical Engineer such as myself. I STRONGLY suggest you actually do thework in your first Circuits class as this lays the foundation for many of your other classes. I'm sure this is the same with other engineering majors likestatics for Civil Engineers and so on. Furthermore, every engineering progrsam has a 1 or 2 semester Senior Design project. This is a class where you break upinto small teams, 3-4 deep, and you design something that is a culimanation of all your engineering education. If your an Aerospace engineer, you're prettymuch building a helicopter, plane, rocket, or engine for example.

Cheat Sheets: No, not high school style. A lot of professors in upper level classes allow you to use a cheat sheetfront and back. You hand-write (or type in some classes) whatever you want on the sheet. On finals, some classes allow multiple pages. I had 4 cheat sheetsfront/back in 1 class
eek.gif
. I've seen guys come through with lectureslides micro-printed on their sheets
laugh.gif
pimp.gif
. So, obviously this means you can simply write old exam questions on your cheatsheet and copy them onto your current exam. Good stuff.

There is an argument that by copying solutions and exams answers, you learn next to nothing in the class. this is false. Even with the old exams, you stillneed to study because you never are certain what will be on the test. You just arnt studying erroneous material. Even so, when you get into the real world mostof the stuff you learn you will never use. Even if you go the super technical route which i don't adivse you do unless you want to be a lab rat the rest ofyour life while somoene else is collecting all the checks and bonus money.


Thats a trick of the trade, now go forth and get a 4.0

This is all in addition to co-op/internships, networking, etc.

I'm curious though, how many NTers actually want to be engineers after the age of 30? I'm going the MBA route, this lab-rat stuff just isn'tcutting it. I want to write checks, not programs.
pimp.gif


I like the product results of electrical engineering, but the work is sometimes
eyes.gif
.

Spot Rushers, Even if you don't go into Engineering, people at my job and recruiters have told me that an Engineering degree especially from a good programproves Intelligence and Good Analytical skills. Business and Finance, not so much. If you can parlay your analytical skills and sell yourself in an interviewyou can get a financial analyst, investment banking, etc job over a guy who actually went to school for finance simply because the recruiters know you are usedto learning and retaining a lot of material and a rigorous schedule.
 
My wife is a chemical engineer and received her degree from Purdue. She tells me that chemical engineers are currently very much in demand, along with biomedand nuclear. Of course, those programs are among the most difficult types of engineering programs into which to gain admittance. She told me at Purdue allprospective engineering students take the same core courses and then they are told, based on their performance, which programs they can enter. In addition, thebottom 1/3 of the prospects are cut and not allowed to continue in any of the programs. It is a very difficult, competitive, and stressful major, but thosethat graduate are rewarded with very nice salaries.

You also want to check out the national ranking of the program you are considering entering. Because it is a competitive field, HR people are very cognizant ofthe rankings of the programs at different schools and weigh those rankings when choosing between potential new hires. My wife has been a part of the interviewgroup for multiple new engineers at her plant and she has told me the aplicant's school definitely comes into play when the group discusses the merits ofeach candidate.
 
be ready for math....and lots of it.

i went to a big engineering school (i was a business major), and the recruiters were throwing jobs at the students. they were in high demand, even witheverything slowing down, they are still getting jobs
 
I tried Civil Engineering for a semester and though I passed the intro to Engineering, I was like @%#% that. I just switch back to a Landscape Architecturemajor in hopes of a Urban & Regional Planning job.
 
Originally Posted by thekillerj23


Another thing about engineering (maybe all majors) the stuff I learned at school, I have yet to use on the job. The engineers around me told me you rarely ever use something you learn in school, at best you might use couple equations, basically they put you through all those hard classes to teach you how to think.
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So true. In the year and half or so of work I think the most advanced equations I've used are basic trig and P=IV.
 
Originally Posted by ThrowedInDaGame

Alot of guys are giving good advice, so I'm just going to elaborate on specific subject. If you chose to go into Engineering, make sure you have this:


"Word"


I'm not sure what the jargon is at other schools and if this term is universal, but Word basically comes from the idea that frats used to throw old course materials into microsoft word documents and pass them down line, generation. This idea is in the engineering world is usually not facilitated by frats (unless you go to an engineering school MIT, Georgia Tech, Purdue etc.) because alot of Frats usually have guys with easy majors. Business, Public Policy, Sports management, etc. Majors that allow you to party weekly, sometimes even daily and still get a 3.5.

So how does one get word? From upper classmen. Ask around, network your @%% off.

Word consist of old exams with answer keys, quizes with answer keys, labs, homework solutions manuals, et.c
Word cuts your studying time in half. Instead of attempting to learn everything in the book or that might be on the test. You simply learn (or memorize) everything that will be on the test. Now this varies. If your teacher has been teaching the class since 1992, and puts every single old exam online then word becomes less useful because he has already made so many exams the chances of a question you actusally worked out showing up on the test are slim. Word works well when your professor does not put up old exams. This indiciates he or she probably has 2 or 3 test that they constantly recycle or a bed of 10 questions and they pick 6 from them for the test.

This works even better when the professor teaches the class rarely, maybe once every 2-3 years. If you manage to get the old exams, chances are the exam save a question or two are identical. Or, the exam is identical
pimp.gif
. You are garunteed an A on the exam in this case and you can crank the dougie as you finish your 1 hour exam in 20 minutes and laugh at nerds who are sweating in lecture hall over problems that you know are impossible to solve in 1 hour.

With labs, if you are an Electrical or Computer Engineer your going to encounter labs in your weed out classes that are impossible to do. Old labs might not be exactly the same, but the programming structure is similar. You can use this as a template and simply switch up values. Every textbook has a solution manual.It would be in your best interest to acquire this. Your going to run into days when you dont have time to do HW and this will come in handy.

Word is great but in some classes this is not a great idea. For example, if your an Electrical Engineer such as myself. I STRONGLY suggest you actually do the work in your first Circuits class as this lays the foundation for many of your other classes. I'm sure this is the same with other engineering majors like statics for Civil Engineers and so on. Furthermore, every engineering progrsam has a 1 or 2 semester Senior Design project. This is a class where you break up into small teams, 3-4 deep, and you design something that is a culimanation of all your engineering education. If your an Aerospace engineer, you're pretty much building a helicopter, plane, rocket, or engine for example.

Cheat Sheets: No, not high school style. A lot of professors in upper level classes allow you to use a cheat sheet front and back. You hand-write (or type in some classes) whatever you want on the sheet. On finals, some classes allow multiple pages. I had 4 cheat sheets front/back in 1 class
eek.gif
. I've seen guys come through with lecture slides micro-printed on their sheets
laugh.gif
pimp.gif
. So, obviously this means you can simply write old exam questions on your cheat sheet and copy them onto your current exam. Good stuff.

There is an argument that by copying solutions and exams answers, you learn next to nothing in the class. this is false. Even with the old exams, you still need to study because you never are certain what will be on the test. You just arnt studying erroneous material. Even so, when you get into the real world most of the stuff you learn you will never use. Even if you go the super technical route which i don't adivse you do unless you want to be a lab rat the rest of your life while somoene else is collecting all the checks and bonus money.


Thats a trick of the trade, now go forth and get a 4.0

This is all in addition to co-op/internships, networking, etc.

I'm curious though, how many NTers actually want to be engineers after the age of 30? I'm going the MBA route, this lab-rat stuff just isn't cutting it. I want to write checks, not programs.
pimp.gif


I like the product results of electrical engineering, but the work is sometimes
eyes.gif
.

Spot Rushers, Even if you don't go into Engineering, people at my job and recruiters have told me that an Engineering degree especially from a good program proves Intelligence and Good Analytical skills. Business and Finance, not so much. If you can parlay your analytical skills and sell yourself in an interview you can get a financial analyst, investment banking, etc job over a guy who actually went to school for finance simply because the recruiters know you are used to learning and retaining a lot of material and a rigorous schedule.
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5 out of 6 of all of the professors my freshman year have posted their exams online. IT is essental for a lot of my engineering classes, but everyonce in a while looking at so many practice tests gets me into a complacent feeling and I end of +$#%$++ an exam up because i looked at every possible exam andthought i knew every question they coud throw at me , well i was wrong.
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