Post one Jay-Z song better than any of these Nas songs

Yeah, because you are too stupid to think about it and figure out the meaning (it's pretty obvious... look at the point of the song) it's"gibberish". Spoken like a true Jay stan.

If you are mad though, Vinnie changed his style from this to more dumbed down street type rhymes and hasn't looked back since. The hate he gets on NT fromignorant lames like you about UFO's and aliens stems from one album. Out of 6 albums, 2 collabo albums and dozens of collaborations.

Scroll up. Big names in the underground world respect dude and work with him. He destroys you're list of 5 lyrical rappers (a typical NT'r list by theway) on tracks together.

Obviously you are just hating for nothing more than to hate.

Vinnie Paz > your favorite rapper right now.

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Honestly...that song was hot and his verse was dope...but for you to boost him up and say cats like Jay shouldn't even be discussed just showyour bias.

Absolutely nothing he said was super level lyricism, you can find that same level of rap littered on any MCs album with average talent. There is nothing theregreater than T.I. or Sean Prices good verse...so chill out.

He's talking about guzzling 40s, how nice he is, having gaudy chains that hang down to his d_, with a few nice punchlines tossed around. How is that betterthan your average Jay-Z verse? Its the same evel of lyricism, just different approaches and styles for 2 different audiences.

And for the record....Vipers don't suck blood.
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Originally Posted by MidEastBeast

Yeah, because you are too stupid to think about it and figure out the meaning (it's pretty obvious... look at the point of the song) it's "gibberish". Spoken like a true Jay stan.

If you are mad though, Vinnie changed his style from this to more dumbed down street type rhymes and hasn't looked back since. The hate he gets on NT from ignorant lames like you about UFO's and aliens stems from one album. Out of 6 albums, 2 collabo albums and dozens of collaborations.

Scroll up. Big names in the underground world respect dude and work with him. He destroys you're list of 5 lyrical rappers (a typical NT'r list by the way) on tracks together.

Obviously you are just hating for nothing more than to hate.

Vinnie Paz > your favorite rapper right now.

/thread.

No that really made no sense....so you're the one coming off as a Stan.

First you talking about how Jay-Z Stans take regualr phrases and act like its Shakespeare...then you post
Patience is a virtue and knowledge is a commercial
Which is the most cliched statement ever....just butchered into pure stupidity and you act like Jesus has just spoken to you....

Vanity and insanity rhyme at the expense of him making a cohesive statement...if he went in and continued his alteration into a clear point (one of the thingsJay does better than anyone) then that line would be hot...but he says the vanity of his insanity will shine in due time like the haunted corners of a familiarrooms...losing whatever point he was trying to make in the gibberish of his poorly delivered rhyming words.

Haunted corners of familiar rooms...your mind...how does that shine...where does the vanity come into play? He's babbling, unfinished thoughts....its notthat hard to do.

You can take those random words and start reaching to create your own meaning but that doesn't make it hot.
 
Originally Posted by MidEastBeast

Anyone who has Jay in their top 5 should have hot iron poured into their ears.

None of the songs posted here are on the same level as some posted by the OP. Period.
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I posted that as an example of him on a track with a legendary rapper and holding it down. What kind of "GARBAGE" rapper holds down a track with KOOLG RAP ?!
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Do you want songs of him bodying Sean Price ?

Do you want songs of him being more lyrical than Jay while rhyming about more realistic subjects ?

I can pretty much post his entire discography not including his first two albums.

Just tell me what you want fam.

From the mystical %$%% when he was younger...

to straight chilling tracks:



to emotional tracks



to street type anthems:



Just tell me what you want.

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Is Vinnie paying you outta pocket to gas him up on here? I'm sure everyone has rappers they like and are personal favorites, in your case Vinnie Paz,but you've got to be delusional to think he is ANYWHERE close to Jay or Nas.
 
Originally Posted by MidEastBeast

I posted that as an example of him on a track with a legendary rapper and holding it down. What kind of "GARBAGE" rapper holds down a track with KOOL G RAP ?!
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Do you want songs of him bodying Sean Price ?

Do you want songs of him being more lyrical than Jay while rhyming about more realistic subjects ?

I can pretty much post his entire discography not including his first two albums.

Just tell me what you want fam.

From the mystical %$%% when he was younger...

to straight chilling tracks:



to emotional tracks



to street type anthems:



Just tell me what you want.

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http://niketalk.com/topic/36196
Maybe mods should start enforcing this rule so this dude can stop posting such garbage music...
 
Here's Vinnie bodying ya boy Ras Kass.



You said Vinnie was no where near Ras Kass's level.
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I'm a huge Ras Kass fan but let me be honest, when this comes on my ipod I skip the song after Vinnie finishes his last few bars. That's how bad thissonning is.
 
This is retarted but seriously..there is no Jay-z song better that NY state of mind or I gave you power....sorry and Jay is top 2 to me.
 
Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

Son.....get that Vinnie Paz garbage out of here.

All honesty and all jokes aside....homeboy is garbage hes not even top 100.

Hes your favorite MCs and that cool but he can't even stand up to a Canibus, Rass Kass, Black Thought, Pharaoh Monch etc...cats who employ similar styles.

You just like that space ship rap but sons delivery is weak as hell...no presence, his voice wreaks or wackness....sound like a pre-teen nerd, he flow is choppy and doodoo, he trying to say everything and ends up saying nothing, metaphors are trash...trying so hard that it doesn't work....there is literally nothing good about his style.

GZA and Pun would rap circles around this bum. Sometimes simplicity is genious....son is garbage point blank.

Andre 3K...who you call overrated....shows him how ot do what hes tryign to do on albums like ATLiens and Aquemeni. Dude isn't even a B level rapper.
QFT!!!!!!!! I HAD to enlarge it and BOLD it cause that's how REAL that statement was. I wasn't gonna jump in this thread but catshonestly have no CLUE what being a dope RAPPER or for you so called "REAL HIPHOP" heads, EMCEE, is all about.

MidEastBeast honestly THINKS he knows HIPHOP but he's like the MAJORITY of all those other "backpacking/underground" HipHop fans. Y'all areSOOOOO wrapped up in what YOU guys consider lyricism that you don't stop to think that lyrics isn't the ONLY thing that makes up a good emcee. Theproblem with these wack underground rappers is they have NO DELIVERY, no style and NO originality. Them fools don't know how to RAP for @+$!! They mightas well just release a book of their lyrics instead of trying to RAP it.

And another thing, you seem to be wrapped up in emcees using big words that rhyme together when in the end, they really ain't saying @+$! and sound likethey are trying WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too hard. You can tell some of these clown $!% underground rappers have a dictionary next to them instead of letting thelyrics come from their souls.
 
Kool G is great because he was ahead of his time in his prime...not because he is a lyrical monster who consistently bodies everyone he is on a track with.

Quite the opposite.

Because of his style, hes rarely going to outshine anyone even if his lyricism is technically better.

And now I see what it is....he spits about Iraq, Iran, terrorism, war and the Middle East...thats why you seem to think he better than anyone else.

Hes not though.

Average at best...with subject matter and a style that is appealing to you but a turn off to most listeners.

Most rap fans and listeners of music in general...will appreciate a Song Cry over Razorblade Salvation. Its just a better track. Listen to them back to backand the level of music is clear.
 
^ Son spent too much time typing his keyboard the last few posts went straight over his head.

Here's Paz sonning GZA.



"No delivery, space ship rap, boring, lame, no originality".... *insert George Takei laughing gif*
 
How Canibus (who you said was on another level to paz lyrically) get sonned on his own album with a fraction of the number of bars ?



Listen to the lyrics. It's ridiculous how hard he went in.
 
jesus are you guys still arguing? who cares? one person likes one artist and the other doesn't. live and let live.
 
My dude....as soon as he starts spitting....my mood changes.

All pre-conceived notions or hate....dudes voice is HORRIBLE. He style is waterboarding in Guantanamo....torture (since you like that kinda s_)

I don't see that as him bodying GZA.....GZA was the only listenable part of that song to me.


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Thats how I like my esoteric, intellectual rap.

Ya boy sound like a drunk Black Israelite rapping with a mouth full of marbles....no one thinks thats hot except for you.
 
Originally Posted by MidEastBeast

I posted that as an example of him on a track with a legendary rapper and holding it down. What kind of "GARBAGE" rapper holds down a track with KOOL G RAP ?!
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Do you want songs of him bodying Sean Price ?

Do you want songs of him being more lyrical than Jay while rhyming about more realistic subjects ?

I can pretty much post his entire discography not including his first two albums.

Just tell me what you want fam.

From the mystical %$%% when he was younger...

to straight chilling tracks:



to emotional tracks



to street type anthems:



Just tell me what you want.

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at those tracks.� Especially at the "chilling" trackand the "street anthem."� That "chilling" track sounds like some %@%% people who are about to committ suicide listen to.� And i dont knowwhat streets you from, but
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at that being a "street" anthem.�%$*# outta here.
 
That song was God awful but he did come better than Sean Price.

Still...most mixtape rappers come harder than that. Nothing exceptional lyrically....just more backpacker bias, juicing something up to be more than it is jsutbecause its underground.

If you think anything that you just posted was better than anything on RD....God bless your soul.

What makes those last few verses better than a Power of the Dollar 50? They both C level rappers.




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abeautifulhaze please stop arguing wit this dude...dude is the most delusional kid on the planet and nothing u say will change his mind...all u doing is givinghim more reasons to post his horrible horrible music...

Let him go somewhere else with that dungeon and dragons suicidal %#+@...
 
Originally Posted by Dapper D

abeautifulhaze please stop arguing wit this dude...dude is the most delusional kid on the planet and nothing u say will change his mind...all u doing is giving him more reasons to post his horrible horrible music...

Let him go somewhere else with that dungeon and dragons suicidal %#+@...
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word son love them rappers who talk about the moon and the stars
 
damn, i read the first page, looked at the last....not even about the topic...lol

i wasnt gonna comment anyway.
 
Originally Posted by MidEastBeast

^ Son spent too much time typing his keyboard the last few posts went straight over his head.

Here's Paz sonning GZA.



"No delivery, space ship rap, boring, lame, no originality".... *insert George Takei laughing gif*
What??? GZA took that one, as soon as he came in with the "Imagine a rhyme in it's prime..." you could tell his flow was gonna be
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and it was. Paz was nice, but his flow was all over the place likealways...

Plus how can he son GZA when it's His track that they asked GZA to be on?

Anyway back on topic, back to the topic, this Nas and Jay talk is never gonna end and will never be settled and I think it's a true testiment on how greatthese both are and how impactful they are to Hip Hop. Nas vs Jay arguments are more had than Pac vs Biggie ones, which truely shows you the status of Jay andNas.

I've always used to say Nas > Jay one month, then the next Jay > Nas. So I came to the conclusion that it's a toss up, Nas = Jay...It's justa matter of apples and oranges..
 
Nas vs. Jay-Z = pointless argument.
both are great. period.

abeautifulhaze - you have some good insightin your opinions.
I feel ya man, but I don't think anything you're droppin on MidEastBeast
is registering.
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Its all good.
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