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neither, but i dont have to be calling my government officials to see if i can get an appointment. just pick up the phone and make one when i need it.
Obama administration looking for broader power to seize firms
neither, but i dont have to be calling my government officials to see if i can get an appointment. just pick up the phone and make one when i need it.
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You've never had a family member denied cancer treatment because the insurance company (of a USPS employee) decided it wasn't necessarythen?
I've never paid for healthcare and I don't know anyone who has to get permission for an appointment - they just call the doctor and arrange it like yousay. Only difference is the government pays the doctors salary and anyone can get the same treatment regardless of income or status.
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^Politicians deciding how much people should earn is brilliant. Politicians are not economists, and they're sure as hell not doctors. Let the marketsdetermine payscale, not some bureaucracy based upon lies.
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your just brilliant homie
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You mean you don't want socialist government healthcare?
I live it now. My dad is a doctor (paid by the government). I work in primary care for my local health area - which is in the top 20 providers in the world -both government controlled and private.
PS "you're".
I live it now. My dad is a doctor (paid by the government). I work in primary care for my local health area - which is in the top 20 providers in the world -both government controlled and private.
PS "you're".
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Don't worry though.
The debts on the failed firms books will be transferred over to the balance sheet of the US treasury. Which means more debt for you. yay!
In case anyone hasn't realized the government works for the crooks. This is one big shell game.
If you runa failing form that owes massive amounts of debt, wouldn't you want those debts transferred over to someone else? Wouldn't sound like a baddeal to me.
The debts on the failed firms books will be transferred over to the balance sheet of the US treasury. Which means more debt for you. yay!
In case anyone hasn't realized the government works for the crooks. This is one big shell game.
If you runa failing form that owes massive amounts of debt, wouldn't you want those debts transferred over to someone else? Wouldn't sound like a baddeal to me.
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Pretty much.
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I advise any of you who are interested in this topic to watch this.
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The healthcare sector perpetrates egregious fraud against the American taxpayer to the tune of 10's of billions a year.
Other than that. It's great.
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At the end of the day, they all go out for drinks and are good ole' pals. Politics is showbiz. The important people are not in the news or onTV... Which is how they want it.
Wow! I'm surprised and commend you. I came at you hard a while back because I thought you were a blind supporter of anything with an Rbehind it.
While I disagree with many of your ideologies, I respectfully disagree. As far as the debt and bailouts are concerned, I have no problem raising taxes on theones that are benefitting the most from the bailouts. Call it whatever -ism, that you want, I'm all for it.
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No doubt.
Dont get me wrong, I'm still a Conservative, but I wont support any of these clowns anymore. Both parties haven't even attempted to govern by theConstitution. Always "Left" or "Right", Republican or Democrat, it's SO MUCH bigger than that, it's a %*#%@%+ shame.
Imposing taxes on bonuses is Unconstitutional, while we are at it, Federal Income Taxes is Unconstitutional as well. As well as the Fed Reserve.
Congress is calling for private citizens (AIG execs) income to be made public, which is against the law.
Ridiculous, it's a %*#%@%+ shame.
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I'm also registered no party. They both suck. It baffles me how people want the government to control things, there is no more inefficient entity andpeople are pushing for them to control more?! That's insane
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Originally Posted by JDB1523
"Hell hath no fury like a bureaucrat scorned" - Milton Friedman
LOVE IT dmxfury
I seriously want to fight Tim Geithner. By the way everyone, we are witnessing the de-Americanization of America. What once made this country great is being
bastardized by Obama and his goons.
c'mon man. no disrespect, but anyone with any common sense knows that obama is not MAKING these decisions. he's strictly the figurehead/PUPPET who iscarrying them out.
obama is controlled by the illuminati (no, not somemythical characters, but the cfr, bilderbergers and trilateral commission)
all the ceos at the federal reserves are head members of all 3 of those groups.
The administration's proposal contains two pieces. First, it would empower a government agency to take on the new role of systemic risk regulator withbroad oversight of any and all financial firms whose failure could disrupt the broader economy. The Federal Reserve is widely considered to be theleading candidate for this assignment.
we in trouble, baby...
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Originally Posted by JDB1523
"Hell hath no fury like a bureaucrat scorned" - Milton Friedman
LOVE IT dmxfury
I seriously want to fight Tim Geithner. By the way everyone, we are witnessing the de-Americanization of America. What once made this country great is being
bastardized by Obama and his goons.
c'mon man. no disrespect, but anyone with any common sense knows that obama is not MAKING these decisions. he's strictly the figurehead/PUPPET who iscarrying them out.
obama is controlled by the illuminati (no, not somemythical characters, but the cfr, bilderbergers and trilateral commission)
all the ceos at the federal reserves are head members of all 3 of those groups.
The administration's proposal contains two pieces. First, it would empower a government agency to take on the new role of systemic risk regulator withbroad oversight of any and all financial firms whose failure could disrupt the broader economy. The Federal Reserve is widely considered to be theleading candidate for this assignment.
we in trouble, baby...
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I don't see how that's worse than having a business make money by selling you healthcare - I don't think they're doing it out of a sense of magnanimity.
The funny thing that American medicine has produced is that a lot of the population think that every examination should involve running a battery of expensive tests then analysing the data - that's not good medicine. The best medicine involves highly trained doctors making decisions on what is best for you - not what they can afford or are allowed to do.
Sure there are times when treatments can't be made available - new experimental stuff mostly - but I don't see how that is any worse than your insurance company deciding they won't pay for a particular treatment because some bureaucrat has been told not to authorise those claims as they are expensive.
I agree.
I see patients for sprained ankles and they come to me "Well, the doctor wants an X-Ray and MRI, just to make sure.", doctors do this for 2 reasons.1) Yes, it is a easy to make money (especially if it already on campus) 2) They do it to cover their butt against malpractice.
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I guess because people don't see government as in the business of making a profit that their more trust worthy than the private sector... butthats a fallacy. Just as greed drives capitalism and politics drives government and right now political ideology is as harmful as greed.
But its not a matter of big or small government its an effective government thats what most individuals want.
I view the role of government as an establishment that protects the homeland only [and not it's interests] An establishment that willl oversee and regulatethe free market system but not in an intrusive way. An establishment that is efficient in a time of crisis, hurricanes, tornados, floods and etc with theability to provide immediate care, [housing, govt vouchers and etc] I do believe that every US citizen should have healthcare but don't think its thegovernment's role to provide it if anything enact laws so healthcare is more affordable.
The Constitution is an old document that needed to be amended many many times. I'm not a constitutional law expert, so what is it about theFederal income taxes and taxes on bonuses that make it unconstitutional?
I'll admit, I don't hold the Constitution in high regard because it was originally written to exclude certain people.
Top executives are already required by the SEC to disclose their compensation. Making all the names of everyone who took bonuses should be illegal, howeverexecutives that normally publicize their compensation should disclose exactly how much compensation came from bonuses.
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Free Market and Regulation is a contradiction. Free Market capitalism works, without Gov't intervention.
The reason we are in this mess is because because of Gov't intervention. Gov't entered and forced banks to make bad loans.
We will continue having a bad economy when Gov't gets out. Just look at how the market reacts to anything that has the Gov't or Fed says to intervenewith anything.
By you saying "But its not a matter of big or small government its an effective government", is exactly whatliberals were saying the Cold War, they believed Communism worked, but just didn't have the "right" leader, the Left loved Gorbachev.
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Free Market capitalism thrives on its own but to make it so its not destructive to a country's economy the government has to give oversightand regulation. look at the case of Standard Oil.
The reason we're in this mess is GREED sir..... what the hell are you talking about. Please look up derivatives,mortgage backed securities in particular and see how grossly over leveraged they were.
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It is imperitive for the government to oversee mergers and uphold antitrust laws. That is a HUGE reason for this mess, firms merged and got "to big tofail". Hopefully the government goes back and focuses on that but I doubt it