Animal Cruelty UNAPPRECIATION

Originally Posted by tSamShoX

Yeah...I can hardly watch animal cops. That #!$# hits me deep when you see those neglected animals starving.....

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Originally Posted by kash55

I hate animal cruelty. People who abuse animals or enjoy animal abuse have serious physiological psychological problems.

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Originally Posted by tSamShoX

Yeah...I can hardly watch animal cops. That #!$# hits me deep when you see those neglected animals starving.....

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It's just messed up how us humans don't really respect other life on this planet. There is a worldwide mass slaughter of animals so we can eat them and people for the most part don't care.
I agree completely - and even those relatively unconcerned about the ethical aspects of animal consumption must confront the environmental impactof factory farming and animal-based diets in general. While the selfless and empathic have always been troubled by this issue, it is in our own self-interest,at the very least, reduce the production and consumption of meat if we wish to sustain this planet's humanpopulation.

One of my all time favorite quotes comes from Mohandas Gandhi, who said, "You must be the change you wish to see in this world." With any sincereform of activism, true and lasting change starts from within. The first thing any global warming denier points to, for example, is Al Gore's carbonfootprint - his use of private jets, the size and energy consumption attributed to his cavernous mansion, thus and so. It's for that reason, followed bythe health benefits, that I became vegan. I believe it's one of the best things we, as individuals, can do for ourselves and to raise awareness amongthose around us.

If you'd like to discuss it further, feel free to send me a PM. I'll be happy to point you to some additional resources if you wish. I've reallyenjoyed discussing this with a number of my fellow NT users recently and I'd look forward to hearing from you as well. It's always great to talk withothers who value life and empathy.

I remember in Biology class learning that the human digestive system was originally meant to digest vegetables, not meat, then over time we became meat eaters. (as you can see through all the diseases and sicknesses that meat gives us)
Since we can't eat raw meat, then scientists argue that we are not inherently carnivors.
That's absolutely true. I actually posted about that in another thread a few months back if you're interested: http://niketalk.com/topic/132798?page=3

people went crazy against Vick and we put him in jail because he hurt dogs, which are companion animals in our culture. However, people dont care about abuse to farm animals, because we dont consider them as pets or companions, they are just food to us so we dont care.
It's interesting, because there exist varying hierarchies of life. In the US, many consider the thought of eating dog meat repugnant and findfur to be morally reprehensible, yet they have no problem eating beef and wearing leather. Bullfighting and cockfighting are considered cruel and barbaric,yet game hunting is considered a legitimate sport and slaughtering livestock has been deemed "humane."

Most people won't eat dolphins, in part, because they're considered intelligent - yet scientists have long hailed the intelligence of pigs.

You'd be hard pressed to get a consistent, logical explanation as to why, exactly, it's wrong to kill certain animals, but not others. For the mostpart, most people simply seem to accept the prevailing tradition without question or critical examination. By and large, we eat chicken because, as children,that's what was served to us. It tasted good and kept us alive. Yet each of us has the right and freedom to challenge that.

For every person who legitimately abuses an animal (not domestically, but slaughterhouses, packing plants, etc.), there are hundreds that don't. Don't make this out to be some widespread epidemic.
First of all, even those relatively unconcerned with the lives of animals would likely be outraged by the conditions of many slaughterhouses - ifonly due to 1) the health and safety of their food and 2) human rights violations that make garment sweatshops look like dream jobs. Pick up Fast Food Nation by Eric Schlosser.

A great deal of cruelty is actually common practice. Chickens routinely have their beaks and, sometimes, their feet cut off with a hot blade to prevent themfrom harming one another while packed so tightly together that they can't even move.

Even the production of organic milk and cheese often entails cruelty. Dairy cows are regularly impregnated to stimulate milk production. Their babies areusually taken from them within hours of birth. For days afterward, mother cows will bellow for their lost calves.

I ate meat and dairy products for years, and I could only do so with a clear conscience because all of the suffering and brutality it entails has beencarefully obscured from view. It is, when you look at it with fresh eyes, with a truly curious, detached sense of civility, sanity, and sterility that we walkinto modern grocery stores and purchase something so macabre as flesh without paying so much as a stray thought to the reality that the contents of our cold,shrink-wrapped package was, once, living creature. It's just "meat." Homer Simpson nailed it in characteristic fashion when he told hisvegetarian daughter, "Lisa, get a hold of yourself. This is lamb, not a lamb."


I don't expect everyone, or even most people, to give up meat - but there's no reason, biologically, let alone technologically, why we must consume animal products in today's day and age.

Often, it's rationalized away via a "might makes right" mentality. It's little wonder, then, that in our fiction we, as humans, so fearcoming into contact with alien civilizations boasting superior intellects and technology - for they could very easily justify enslaving or even eating humansunder the exact same reasoning. We, to them, would be ignorant, inferior beings. Would it matter that we can still feel pain, that we're capable offeeling a deep familial bond, that we, if given the choice, would prefer life and freedom over death and captivity? It's no surprise at all that this soterrifies people, that we would be unable to convince an invading horde of our worthiness to live - a trait we, in typically narcissistic fashion, have evendeemed our "humanity." Ironically, if a child, having been exposed to such a work of fiction, ever runs to us to express this fear, we often allaytheir concerns by reasoning, "don't worry; if they're that advanced they'd be far too civilized toever be so cruel."

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Originally Posted by JayPesoz

Animal cruelty = bad

meat = yummy

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My dad kicked my dog yesterday for taking his shoe and I started crying and called him a jerk

So long as the hypocrisy continues its trend here in America I will reserve any and all judgement on animal cruelty. Kill a deer, its a sport its legal. kill adog its a vile act and you should be placed in Prison for it.

It's interesting, because there exist varying hierarchies of life. In the US, many consider the thought of eating dog meat repugnant and find fur to be morally reprehensible, yet they have no problem eating beef and wearing leather. Bullfighting and cockfighting are considered cruel and barbaric, yet game hunting is considered a legitimate sport and slaughtering livestock has been deemed "humane."

Most people won't eat dolphins, in part, because they're considered intelligent - yet scientists have long hailed the intelligence of pigs.

You'd be hard pressed to get a consistent, logical explanation as to why, exactly, it's wrong to kill certain animals, but not others. For the most part, most people simply seem to accept the prevailing tradition without question or critical examination. By and large, we eat chicken because, as children, that's what was served to us. It tasted good and kept us alive. Yet each of us has the right and freedom to challenge that.
Tell me about it.

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Originally Posted by l2icel3oi9i6

Originally Posted by 18key

Originally Posted by JoseBronx

that cat beating kids

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What ever happened with that? They go to jail yet?

And yes, animal cruelty is very sickening.

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what ever happened to those morons?

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Originally Posted by Jetpacunlimited

So long as the hypocrisy continues its trend here in America I will reserve any and all judgement on animal cruelty. Kill a deer, its a sport its legal. kill a dog its a vile act and you should be placed in Prison for it.

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Originally Posted by eNPHAN

-raises hand-

i said "they're just dogs, who cares"

he's a human.

they are dogs.

life of human > life of animal

i'm not an advocate for animal abuse or nothin...

but these tree-hugging hippies get on MY LAST NERVE

some of you peta lames care more about animals than humans....

maybe because humans don't like you much...

animals are lesser than humans

we are prominent...

they are here for our use....

they leave no legacy, have no reason and can't express themselves articulately...

other than meat, what good are they anyway?

you DO know, in the wild, they are meat.......they're born....they live....and then they die....

they're just growing and growing to be eaten...

stop crying all the time.

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Originally Posted by tSamShoX

Yeah...I can hardly watch animal cops. That #!$# hits me deep when you see those neglected animals starving.....

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eNPHAN wrote:

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-raises hand-

i said "they're just dogs, who cares"

he's a human.

they are dogs.

life of human > life of animal

i'm not an advocate for animal abuse or nothin...

but these tree-hugging hippies get on MY LAST NERVE

some of you peta lames care more about animals than humans....

maybe because humans don't like you much...

animals are lesser than humans

we are prominent...

they are here for our use....

they leave no legacy, have no reason and can't express themselves articulately...

other than meat, what good are they anyway?

you DO know, in the wild, they are meat.......they're born....they live....and then they die....

they're just growing and growing to be eaten...

stop crying all the time. Raising Animals as livestock is not cruelty.






wow. just wow.

your mentality brings down the human species.

do you see lions trapping and torturing and abusing gazelles? no, instead they hunt and kill for survival.

humans are the dominant species, but we don't hunt and kill for suvival. we can survive without meat. but we raise and breed and abuse and torture andkill for sport.

SMH at you

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