the infamous is better than illmatic

Not to get off topic, but
laugh.gif
@ IWW.

laugh.gif
@ the lames who all of the sudden hopped on it after Budden said it was better than Illmatic, which is just ******ed.

If Illmatic didn't have a clear concept than IWW was literally a randomly thrown together CD of Nas songs. Out of which only a few are good, with some justplain horrible. I noticed that almost everyone that holds it up highly is pretty much clueless about rap.

Hell on Earth puts it to shame, and that's so obvious it's not even worth making a thread for.
 
Originally Posted by M16

Not to get off topic, but
laugh.gif
@ IWW.

laugh.gif
@ the lames who all of the sudden hopped on it after Budden said it was better than Illmatic, which is just ******ed.

If Illmatic didn't have a clear concept than IWW was literally a randomly thrown together CD of Nas songs. Out of which only a few are good, with some just plain horrible. I noticed that almost everyone that holds it up highly is pretty much clueless about rap.

Hell on Earth puts it to shame, and that's so obvious it's not even worth making a thread for.
Click to expand...
 
I don't know how anyone can deny that the Infamous is a classic album. I say its on the same tier as Illmatic but it is not better album to me.
 
2 of my favorite 3 albums of all time. I too agree that The Infamous is a slightly better album than Illmatic. I think the main thing clouding everyone'sjudgement is Prodigy's fall from grace lyrically and the number of times he's been exposed on a street level since then. If Pee would have sustainedthe same level lyrically and kept his street cred intact the comments on this topic would be a lot different and the vote would be very close.
 
Originally Posted by Harlem On The Rise

indifferent.gif
smh.gif
smh.gif
@ IWW being in anyone TOP anything...
Click to expand...


IWW is so overrated its not even funny. It has some AMAZING songs on it but as an album its put together atrociously. IDK if that last sentence even makessense but IDC.
 
laugh.gif
@ the IWW talk again what Nay called it awful/lousy? A %%!%sandwhich
laugh.gif


He's 100% right, couple good songs but ppl saying its better than Illmatic or Stillmatic for that matter is off they rocker. I still rmemeber that 101albums better than IWW thread.
laugh.gif
 
Originally Posted by LESfamilia

Originally Posted by Wade187


You usually not even worth paying any attention to. But imma have to agree with you on this one."And if there is, there is no chance in bloody hell it is The Infamous. " why not? Give me a reason. You're making it seem as if there is a bunch of albums better then the infamous. If that's how you feel name some and state why you feel they are superior
Click to expand...
In no particular order:

Ready to Die
Only Built 4 Cuban Linx
Capital Punishment
The War Report
Aquemini
It Takes a Nation of Millions...
36 Chambers
The Chronic
Doggystyle
By Any Means Necessary
Radio
Click to expand...
fixed.

that mobb deep album be having me wanting to slappin #%%* and %!+%@*$.
laugh.gif
embarassed.gif
tongue.gif
 
laugh.gif
laugh.gif
laugh.gif


Whaddup BhuddaBless... Where the %$@$ you been @ my 'G??... I was thinkin of doin another list...IWW is just the prime example of Nas fans acting like Jayfans... Biggin up an average product only because the name/face on the cover...
 
Originally Posted by Master Zik

Average or just good songs for me were:
Give Up The Goods
Up North Trip
Q.U. -- Hectic
Right Back At You
Cradle To The Grave

That's five from me leaving 8 great/classic songs imo. Hell I even count Just Step Prelude as some classic shhh. I overall just don't see this album being better than Illmatic. I find myself bumping it way more.
Click to expand...
Do you smoke crack by any chance?
 
Originally Posted by M16

Nas's stories on it are completely unbelievable and he came off as the dude that chilled at his crib getting high just focusing on his rhymes. P and Havoc came off as the grimey dudes they portrayed in their rhymes, the type of dudes you pass by and see chilling in the hood lobby at 3am getting rocks off'; and that's just a testament to how great of an album The Infamous is.
Click to expand...


I disagree with so much of this, I don't know where to begin......but the part quoted above was the most comical. It's so funny how passionate you areabout how authentic and believeable Infamous "is" or "sounds" when believeable is the last word I'd use to describe it.

To each his own though. Only on NT is this album worshipped the way it is (kind of goes back to my theory about this being some "fantasy" #!+% forfrail dudes). Look at any "intelligent" top album list (if there is such a thing) and you won't see The Infamous anywhere near the top. Greatalbum. Not what y'all make it out to be. Rae + Ghost did it better. Nas. G Rap. Wu. Eric and Ra.

But again, to me it's how dudes who don't live it get to live out their superthug dreams.

Because the dudes that actually do live it don't take that album seriously IMO. How you gon' have halfway crooks talking 'bout "ain't nosuch thing as halfway crooks". It makes me laugh more than anything.

P talking about "Give Up The Goods"? How many stories have y'all heard about P himself having to give up the goods?

Album is cool on some "Terminator" steez. But as far as authenticity? I mean seriously, how much of what's talked about on The Infamous cany'all relate to? I know there's cats out there living that life for real. But it's like 1% of the population. And even those dudes like to get laidonce in a while. All that "killer" %@@* was OD IMO and was done more for entertainment purposes than any realism or authenticity. Gangster $!!#sells. Y'all eat it up.
 
Originally Posted by N3FF 3000

Originally Posted by Harlem On The Rise

indifferent.gif
smh.gif
smh.gif
@ IWW being in anyone TOP anything...
Click to expand...


IWW is so overrated its not even funny. It has some AMAZING songs on it but as an album its put together atrociously. IDK if that last sentence even makes sense but IDC.
Click to expand...
co freaking sign it's a GOOD album but in no way is it flawless in it's execution like illmatic was
 
Originally Posted by illphillip

Originally Posted by M16

Nas's stories on it are completely unbelievable and he came off as the dude that chilled at his crib getting high just focusing on his rhymes. P and Havoc came off as the grimey dudes they portrayed in their rhymes, the type of dudes you pass by and see chilling in the hood lobby at 3am getting rocks off'; and that's just a testament to how great of an album The Infamous is.
Click to expand...


I disagree with so much of this, I don't know where to begin......but the part quoted above was the most comical. It's so funny how passionate you are about how authentic and believeable Infamous "is" or "sounds" when believeable is the last word I'd use to describe it.

To each his own though. Only on NT is this album worshipped the way it is (kind of goes back to my theory about this being some "fantasy" #!+% for frail dudes). Look at any "intelligent" top album list (if there is such a thing) and you won't see The Infamous anywhere near the top. Great album. Not what y'all make it out to be. Rae + Ghost did it better. Nas. G Rap. Wu. Eric and Ra.

But again, to me it's how dudes who don't live it get to live out their superthug dreams.

Because the dudes that actually do live it don't take that album seriously IMO. How you gon' have halfway crooks talking 'bout "ain't no such thing as halfway crooks". It makes me laugh more than anything.

P talking about "Give Up The Goods"? How many stories have y'all heard about P himself having to give up the goods?

Album is cool on some "Terminator" steez. But as far as authenticity? I mean seriously, how much of what's talked about on The Infamous can y'all relate to? I know there's cats out there living that life for real. But it's like 1% of the population. And even those dudes like to get laid once in a while. All that "killer" %@@* was OD IMO and was done more for entertainment purposes than any realism or authenticity. Gangster $!!# sells. Y'all eat it up.
Click to expand...


and once again.... I wasn't talking about reality. That's just how they came off on the album. The hell are you talking about "intelligentlist" get out of here with that. Every heavy rap head I know has it up high. I consider myself to be one of the most knowledgeable rap heads on NT, so Idon't really care what anyone else says. I have given illmatic thousands of listens through since it came out; a few hundred for The Infamous, andthat's no exaggeration. I know damn well what I'm talking about here.
 
Originally Posted by dreClark

Originally Posted by Master Zik

Average or just good songs for me were:
Give Up The Goods
Up North Trip
Q.U. -- Hectic
Right Back At You
Cradle To The Grave

That's five from me leaving 8 great/classic songs imo. Hell I even count Just Step Prelude as some classic shhh. I overall just don't see this album being better than Illmatic. I find myself bumping it way more.
Click to expand...
Do you smoke crack by any chance?
Click to expand...


laugh.gif
 
illphillip wrote:
M16 wrote:
Nas's stories on it are completely unbelievable and he came off as the dude that chilled at his crib getting high just focusing on his rhymes. P and Havoc came off as the grimey dudes they portrayed in their rhymes, the type of dudes you pass by and see chilling in the hood lobby at 3am getting rocks off'; and that's just a testament to how great of an album The Infamous is.




I disagree with so much of this, I don't know where to begin......but the part quoted above was the most comical. It's so funny how passionate you are about how authentic and believeable Infamous "is" or "sounds" when believeable is the last word I'd use to describe it.

To each his own though. Only on NT is this album worshipped the way it is (kind of goes back to my theory about this being some "fantasy" #!+% for frail dudes). Look at any "intelligent" top album list (if there is such a thing) and you won't see The Infamous anywhere near the top. Great album. Not what y'all make it out to be. Rae + Ghost did it better. Nas. G Rap. Wu. Eric and Ra.

But again, to me it's how dudes who don't live it get to live out their superthug dreams.

Because the dudes that actually do live it don't take that album seriously IMO. How you gon' have halfway crooks talking 'bout "ain't no such thing as halfway crooks". It makes me laugh more than anything.

P talking about "Give Up The Goods"? How many stories have y'all heard about P himself having to give up the goods?

Album is cool on some "Terminator" steez. But as far as authenticity? I mean seriously, how much of what's talked about on The Infamous can y'all relate to? I know there's cats out there living that life for real. But it's like 1% of the population. And even those dudes like to get laid once in a while. All that "killer" %@@* was OD IMO and was done more for entertainment purposes than any realism or authenticity. Gangster $!!# sells. Y'all eat it up.

Hindsight is crasy
laugh.gif
...
See u can say that now because everyone and their mother knows that P is soft and took more L's then anyone in history...
But people weren't believing that in 95...
Just take away the image for a minute...
These dudes being fake doesn't stop the infamous from being the most accurate description of street life...
It just tells me that even though they weren't street...they had street $$*@@$ around them...
Hell I bet u if Cormega and Lake made that album and spit the exact same lyrics u would be in here talking about how realistic the album is...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
Originally Posted by illphillip

Originally Posted by M16

Nas's stories on it are completely unbelievable and he came off as the dude that chilled at his crib getting high just focusing on his rhymes. P and Havoc came off as the grimey dudes they portrayed in their rhymes, the type of dudes you pass by and see chilling in the hood lobby at 3am getting rocks off'; and that's just a testament to how great of an album The Infamous is.
Click to expand...


I disagree with so much of this, I don't know where to begin......but the part quoted above was the most comical. It's so funny how passionate you are about how authentic and believeable Infamous "is" or "sounds" when believeable is the last word I'd use to describe it.

To each his own though. Only on NT is this album worshipped the way it is (kind of goes back to my theory about this being some "fantasy" #!+% for frail dudes). Look at any "intelligent" top album list (if there is such a thing) and you won't see The Infamous anywhere near the top. Great album. Not what y'all make it out to be. Rae + Ghost did it better. Nas. G Rap. Wu. Eric and Ra.

But again, to me it's how dudes who don't live it get to live out their superthug dreams.

Because the dudes that actually do live it don't take that album seriously IMO. How you gon' have halfway crooks talking 'bout "ain't no such thing as halfway crooks". It makes me laugh more than anything.

P talking about "Give Up The Goods"? How many stories have y'all heard about P himself having to give up the goods?

Album is cool on some "Terminator" steez. But as far as authenticity? I mean seriously, how much of what's talked about on The Infamous can y'all relate to? I know there's cats out there living that life for real. But it's like 1% of the population. And even those dudes like to get laid once in a while. All that "killer" %@@* was OD IMO and was done more for entertainment purposes than any realism or authenticity. Gangster $!!# sells. Y'all eat it up.
Click to expand...

spit knowledge young man i aint mad at u
pimp.gif
 
Originally Posted by Dapper D

illphillip wrote:
M16 wrote:
Nas's stories on it are completely unbelievable and he came off as the dude that chilled at his crib getting high just focusing on his rhymes. P and Havoc came off as the grimey dudes they portrayed in their rhymes, the type of dudes you pass by and see chilling in the hood lobby at 3am getting rocks off'; and that's just a testament to how great of an album The Infamous is.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...


I disagree with so much of this, I don't know where to begin......but the part quoted above was the most comical. It's so funny how passionate you are about how authentic and believeable Infamous "is" or "sounds" when believeable is the last word I'd use to describe it.

To each his own though. Only on NT is this album worshipped the way it is (kind of goes back to my theory about this being some "fantasy" #!+% for frail dudes). Look at any "intelligent" top album list (if there is such a thing) and you won't see The Infamous anywhere near the top. Great album. Not what y'all make it out to be. Rae + Ghost did it better. Nas. G Rap. Wu. Eric and Ra.

But again, to me it's how dudes who don't live it get to live out their superthug dreams.

Because the dudes that actually do live it don't take that album seriously IMO. How you gon' have halfway crooks talking 'bout "ain't no such thing as halfway crooks". It makes me laugh more than anything.

P talking about "Give Up The Goods"? How many stories have y'all heard about P himself having to give up the goods?

Album is cool on some "Terminator" steez. But as far as authenticity? I mean seriously, how much of what's talked about on The Infamous can y'all relate to? I know there's cats out there living that life for real. But it's like 1% of the population. And even those dudes like to get laid once in a while. All that "killer" %@@* was OD IMO and was done more for entertainment purposes than any realism or authenticity. Gangster $!!# sells. Y'all eat it up.

Hindsight is crasy
laugh.gif
...
See u can say that now because everyone and their mother knows that P is soft and took more L's then anyone in history...
But people weren't believing that in 95...
Just take away the image for a minute...
These dudes being fake doesn't stop the infamous from being the most accurate description of street life...
It just tells me that even though they weren't street...they had street $$*@@$ around them...
Hell I bet u if Cormega and Lake made that album and spit the exact same lyrics u would be in here talking about how realistic the album is...



Thank you. This dude is on crack talking about "Rae + Ghost did it better. Nas. G Rap. Wu. Eric and Ra. "
roll.gif
I mean, these are some of myfavorite rappers and albums he's talking about, but dude has to lay off the pipe talking about any of these being more realistic or more dark/grimey thanThe Infamous. Maybe it's just something us NYC 90's heads can better understand.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

MakeNTGreatAgain
Songs where u wish the verse was saved for something else
Replies
0
Views
199
MakeNTGreatAgain
MakeNTGreatAgain
dblplay1212
StockX scamming? How is this legal?
2
Replies
49
Views
4K
dinyc3st
dinyc3st
Mister Meaner
🐾 ::|:: IIWII <>TMJS <>✔️out the STAT ::|:: 🐾
Replies
1
Views
589
Mister Meaner
Mister Meaner
B
Nike Air Cross Trainer II Low/Mid-High
Replies
2
Views
501
1978S
1978S
tr1ll
I propose a new SPOILER rule for media in NT's Terms and Rules.
Replies
20
Views
723
TSCQ
TSCQ

The ultimate sneaker enthusiast community.

NikeTalk was created as a way of giving back to both the sneaker enthusiast community and to the greater global community of which we are all a part.

NikeTalk is NOT affiliated with Nike Inc. in any way, shape, or form. All opinions expressed herein do not necessarily reflect those of Nike, Inc.

© 1999-2024 NikeTalk.com

Share this page

Back
Top Bottom