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Waiting for this. I'm serious. Did dudes learn nothing from that 50/Em/Busta collabo?
Rick Ross f. The Game, Ja Rule & Fat Joe - Mafia Music (rmx)
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Waiting for this. I'm serious. Did dudes learn nothing from that 50/Em/Busta collabo?
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exactly.....the fact that he lied about his previous occupationOriginally Posted by YoungAnakin
the man is a former correctionals officer.
unless he's rappin about trays or rec time, i don't respect it.
yeah he spit hard (no mo) but where is the authenticity?!? you can't sell me this I'm moving brick after brick image when u used to be caged inoverseeing *$#+*%%%#$%%% who really put that work in....sorry Charlie
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That Fif, Em and Busta song wasn't nothing though. It was coo to get all 3 on the same song and to hear Busta get involved but it did nothing. Especiallyhaving the same beat as Pac's Hail Mary. It was wack in comparison. Seriously, Em is living off his 1st two albums. He's been garbage for some yearsnow. I know he has it in him to be nice but he's half assing.
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Eminem is NOT hopping in the beef, stop dreaming of this fantasy line up...What the hell does em look like beefing with RickRoss?
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This is my thing though. Ross lied about his past. Fair enough. But I think why myself and others can still bump Ross' music is that EVERYONELIES ABOUT THEIR PAST. If they didn't they would be locked up right now on some Baby D, Freck Billionaire and Shyne type %$!. Everybody lies. Only thing inRoss case is that he got caught. I'm just on this rap %$! as its pure entertainment. Why am I in the minority on this? Its like you cats still believe inthe Easter Bunny and Santa. Its entertainment. Scarface wasn't real. Michael Corleone wasn't real. Should Al Pacino get the same treatment as Ross forportraying a character? I just don't even care about a dudes personal life. If the music is hot its hot. And you know the funny thing about all of this?Same dudes knocking Ross for lying about his past are 50 Cent d-riders lol. As if Fif's past ain't been fabricated. As if Em's past ain't beenfabricated and he's the worst of all. Actually now that I think about it, Em would never get in this beef. There's wayyyy too much %$! on him to evenget in this battle. Especially with those racist tapes.Originally Posted by sdfbheat
exactly.....the fact that he lied about his previous occupationOriginally Posted by YoungAnakin
the man is a former correctionals officer.
unless he's rappin about trays or rec time, i don't respect it.but is officially a drug kingpincome the *%!@ on....
yeah he spit hard (no mo) but where is the authenticity?!? you can't sell me this I'm moving brick after brick image when u used to be caged in overseeing *$#+*%%%#$%%% who really put that work in....sorry Charlie
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QTF.. but. wut did fat joe say exactly?
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you hit the nail right on the head and then bent that joint all up on the last whack lol ... get your dumb $%@ outta here with that em not jumpingin cuz he has "too much stuff on him" LOLOLOLOL ... he has already addressed his "racist" comments and already been defended by numerousblack rappers ... i feel you on the rest though
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You definitely not in the minority my dude I've been saying this its mostly these ethugs who dont know the difference between a cop and a CO.But like you said all artist lie you would'nt be an entertainer if you didnt front at least a little. Its always with rap fans that if you rap about thestreets "Aww he lying he aint real" but as soon as he or she has committed a crime or lived out their rhymesits "Aww he stupid for trying tolive what he spit he got all that money" but you was just callin him fake a day ago which is it?Originally Posted by rocyaice
This is my thing though. Ross lied about his past. Fair enough. But I think why myself and others can still bump Ross' music is that EVERYONE LIES ABOUT THEIR PAST. If they didn't they would be locked up right now on some Baby D, Freck Billionaire and Shyne type %$!. Everybody lies. Only thing in Ross case is that he got caught. I'm just on this rap %$! as its pure entertainment. Why am I in the minority on this? Its like you cats still believe in the Easter Bunny and Santa. Its entertainment. Scarface wasn't real. Michael Corleone wasn't real. Should Al Pacino get the same treatment as Ross for portraying a character? I just don't even care about a dudes personal life. If the music is hot its hot. And you know the funny thing about all of this? Same dudes knocking Ross for lying about his past are 50 Cent d-riders lol. As if Fif's past ain't been fabricated. As if Em's past ain't been fabricated and he's the worst of all. Actually now that I think about it, Em would never get in this beef. There's wayyyy too much %$! on him to even get in this battle. Especially with those racist tapes.Originally Posted by sdfbheat
exactly.....the fact that he lied about his previous occupationOriginally Posted by YoungAnakin
the man is a former correctionals officer.
unless he's rappin about trays or rec time, i don't respect it.but is officially a drug kingpincome the *%!@ on....
yeah he spit hard (no mo) but where is the authenticity?!? you can't sell me this I'm moving brick after brick image when u used to be caged in overseeing *$#+*%%%#$%%% who really put that work in....sorry Charlie
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It ain't about dudes co-signing Em or none of that. Em's reps don't want that !+! to resurface. Its like Ross and this whole CO !+! orR. Kelly and his kiddie porn drama. They don't want that !+! to resurface whether its true or not. Its not good publicity. Em ain't getting in thisbeef. It would be a PR nightmare. Right now its forgotten. They're not going to risk it being brought up and for what? For Fif? Naw. Not while Em got aalbum coming out. He ain't getting in this battle. He never does. Remember those rumors about him going at Wayne? Never happened. It won't.
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Ya'll kill me with this CO's arent Police. Ask any dude who's been to jail how they feel about CO's. I'm sure they love them...hahaha Nowthats not to say there aren't dirty CO's just like they're dirty cops. But come on that's the minority not the majority. If Ross was this dirtyCO pumpin' weight and makin connects he wouldn't have fought so hard to dodge and duck this for so long. He would have come out and said yo I did mything as a CO. But that's not what happened. Have ya'll noticed not 1 person from Miami has cosigned this dude. This so called boss...haha Where arehis people at that he's sold all this weight to. I havent heard 1 person defend the boss, other than members of his lame crew. Now I understand rappers lieand embelish on the amount of drugs they've sold and how much money they have. I can deal with embelishment, but there has got to be some level ofcredibility. What if Asher Roth had come out talkin about pumpin' weight, yall would have killed him cause he's not real. No matter how good the songsare.
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Alright lets use your hypothetical he would definately try to conceal he was a dirty CO. Why? Because a CO is a government job and he would havebeen under investigation.
Everyone down here knew he was CO its not new
What if Asher Roth was a serial killer and had more bodies than Gucci mane, he never even stepped foot in a college. is he still fake for not rhyming about hisprevious life?
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C.O are worse than cops. Some are REAL grimey doing things to prisoners you wouldn't even imagine. They got a horrible rep, that's why this clown beendenying it so long.
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Originally Posted by cartune
Alright lets use your hypothetical he would definately try to conceal he was a dirty CO. Why? Because a CO is a government job and he would have been under investigation.
Everyone down here knew he was CO its not new. He was also a All State High school football player and got a scholarship but quit school cause he had a kid on the way he took a CO job to feed his family but thats fake tho thats flaw. And I dont know anyone but Trick who has called dude out.
What if Asher Roth was a serial killer and had more bodies than Gucci mane, he never even stepped foot in a college. is he still fake for not rhyming about his previous life?
You just proved my point exactly. If he was pumpin' all this weight he wouldn't have had to quit football and get a regular job as a CO to support hisfamily. Thats exactly why he got the job because without a job he had no income to support his family. He wasn't pumpin weight he wasn't running thestreets he was a former college kid workin a square job. Which is fine and I have no problem with that. Do your thing support your fam. But don't front andrap like your a drug king pin when your Johnny Law. He would have never been under investigation. Ross were you you a CO? Yes but I did my thing, lets move on.Boom he would have addressed the situation. But when ya dance and dodge and duck your past, he has something to hide. What is he hiding, that hes not thisBoss. He was a guy tryin to feed his family workin a square job, which is fine. But dont try to sell me this complete BS image, rap about your struggle to takecare of ya fam as a regular dude not this Fugaze drug kingpin.
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I swear this 50 dickriding nonsense only exists onthe world wide web
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Originally Posted by rocyaice
This is my thing though. Ross lied about his past. Fair enough. But I think why myself and others can still bump Ross' music is that EVERYONE LIES ABOUT THEIR PAST. If they didn't they would be locked up right now on some Baby D, Freck Billionaire and Shyne type %$!. Everybody lies. Only thing in Ross case is that he got caught. I'm just on this rap %$! as its pure entertainment. Why am I in the minority on this? Its like you cats still believe in the Easter Bunny and Santa. Its entertainment. Scarface wasn't real. Michael Corleone wasn't real. Should Al Pacino get the same treatment as Ross for portraying a character? I just don't even care about a dudes personal life. If the music is hot its hot. And you know the funny thing about all of this? Same dudes knocking Ross for lying about his past are 50 Cent d-riders lol. As if Fif's past ain't been fabricated. As if Em's past ain't been fabricated and he's the worst of all. Actually now that I think about it, Em would never get in this beef. There's wayyyy too much %$! on him to even get in this battle. Especially with those racist tapes.Originally Posted by sdfbheat
exactly.....the fact that he lied about his previous occupationOriginally Posted by YoungAnakin
the man is a former correctionals officer.
unless he's rappin about trays or rec time, i don't respect it.but is officially a drug kingpincome the *%!@ on....
yeah he spit hard (no mo) but where is the authenticity?!? you can't sell me this I'm moving brick after brick image when u used to be caged in overseeing *$#+*%%%#$%%% who really put that work in....sorry Charlie
no.
there is a fine line between "lying about your past" and completely denying it ever happened in addition to offering up cover-up lies (i.e. rossorginally claimed he was a victim of photoshop nerds when thesmokinggun.com first leaked the now-famous handshake and staff line-up photos of a young, hightop-sporting, portly-looking fellow remarkably resembling the alleged "boss of all bosses".)
and not all rappers flat-out "LIE ABOUT THEIR PAST". embellish, exagerrate, and/or enhance in the name of hyperbole? perhaps (this is, after all,enterainment.)
BUT (and here in lies my problem with ross and his music):
his stage name (rick ross), magnum opus ("hustlin"), debut album (port of miami), and subsequent image are all centered around the premise that he isthe latest kilo-distributing hustler to make it out of the often fatal cocaine trafficking business and into the rap record industry. it is disenfranchising,to say the least, to find out the hnic of the carol city cartel was, in fact, employed by as a correctionals officer for 18 months of his life. it hardly fitsinto the blow, dough, clothes, and ho's lifestyle ross so eloquently rhymed about through out his first 2 albums.
the scarface analogies are skewed and misleading. no, michael corleone is not real, but indeed his character was based upon non-fictitious mob figures who didexist. but that is why al pacino is in the business of ACTING.
rick ross's image was set-up on the foundation that he was real, bona fide, legitimate, genuine... street-credible, however you want to put it. it was inyour face and shoved down your throat from the moment radio played him (noreaga owes him 100 favors, remember?)
but whatever, you've made it abudantly clear that you are very much okay with drinking the kool-aid, despite the fact it has clearly lost its flavor. i,however, do enjoy a certain amount of authenticity in the artists i listen to and i simply choose not to support nor listen to ross today.
cb4 fans...
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oh yeah.
and i clearly understand the difference between a police officer and a correctionals officer.
a police officer arrested me.
a correctionals officer let me know when trays were ready.
but both are part of the institution that serves and protects AGAINST the occupational image ross's career so desperately hinges upon.
and i clearly understand the difference between a police officer and a correctionals officer.
a police officer arrested me.
a correctionals officer let me know when trays were ready.
but both are part of the institution that serves and protects AGAINST the occupational image ross's career so desperately hinges upon.
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IDK why people defend ross
More importantly, people forget the average person has NO IDEA WHO ROSS IS. 50 is one of the wealthiest and most recognizable entertainers in the world.
Ross is a nobody, who no one will remember in a few years. at least Ja Rule had actual top 10 songs
More importantly, people forget the average person has NO IDEA WHO ROSS IS. 50 is one of the wealthiest and most recognizable entertainers in the world.
Ross is a nobody, who no one will remember in a few years. at least Ja Rule had actual top 10 songs
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Originally Posted by DallasSneakerHead08
My boy Game already made fun of officer ricky and said he was losing the beef w/ 50 yet ross still puts him on that track? Confusing.
he will do anything to get at 50
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Y'all gotta stop assuming that EVERY rapper lies. Most exaggerate. If I sold 20's I'll say I moved ounces, bricks. If I only had one gat, I'llsay I had a closet full. But this dude just straight up fabricated his life. I take it some of y'all would be cool with someone like Bill Oriley gangstarapping because "it's entertainment". You gotta draw the line somewhere.
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Money aint a thing... b***h, that's a lie!!...
It only controls every b***h that's alive!!!!..."
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Really?
But about this Mafia Music Remix- I was pretty disappointed. Did Game spit his verse over a cell phone, or did he purposely get as close up on the mic as hecould? What in the blue hell was Jeffrey talking about? Did he really think he won against 50? And Fat Joe
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Lmao @ people really thinking a song had an impact on another man's career. Ja Rule's career was on a downward spiral before 50 even dropped. Peoplejust needed a reason to stop liking the rodent. Ja Rule was one of the only rappers who consistently dropped a SINGLE for 3 years striaght. Once every 3 monthsa new Ja song would hit the radio. He oversaturated himself and even though people still enjoyed his music, they were tired of hearing him. He helped killhimself by doing this nonsense. He shouldn't have dropped every year, or better yet, a single every 3 months since 1999. Once 5-0 came out and clown himfor his girl songs, the very thing people were already annoyed with him about, it was a wrap for Jeffery. Lets also not forget another important thing thatbrought Murder Inc down:
THE FEDS.
Holy #%!% at the timing of that 50 beef. It couldn't have been at a worse time. 50 disses Ja, Feds raid Murder Inc. A month later, they seize all of theirassets meaning anything in bank accounts and such were all frozen. Irv, and Ja had to come out of pocket or they're own personal accounts for EVERYTHINGfor 2 years. Add in the onslaught by the teeny bopper's face of rap, Eminem, it was a done dee for Ja.
That was another thing Ja screwed up in doing; going at Em. Em's fans were Ja fans. People who bought Fem's CD's bought Ja's. Except that theteeny bob crew is much mopre loyal to Em. So when he came out and ethered Em with that Hailey line, which btw, Em has not recovered from since, everyone whobought Ja Rule CD's fled.
THE FEDS.
Holy #%!% at the timing of that 50 beef. It couldn't have been at a worse time. 50 disses Ja, Feds raid Murder Inc. A month later, they seize all of theirassets meaning anything in bank accounts and such were all frozen. Irv, and Ja had to come out of pocket or they're own personal accounts for EVERYTHINGfor 2 years. Add in the onslaught by the teeny bopper's face of rap, Eminem, it was a done dee for Ja.
That was another thing Ja screwed up in doing; going at Em. Em's fans were Ja fans. People who bought Fem's CD's bought Ja's. Except that theteeny bob crew is much mopre loyal to Em. So when he came out and ethered Em with that Hailey line, which btw, Em has not recovered from since, everyone whobought Ja Rule CD's fled.
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