Blueprint Appreciation.

Originally Posted by DearWinter219

Originally Posted by N3FF 3000

Originally Posted by DearWinter219

That #!%% is a classic and the most important album of my 20 years on earth. Say what you will, but that's the album that "awakened" me to the layers of rap below the surface. I've always heard rap, but I wasn't necessarily listening. I went from a parrot to a writer that year. That album dropped the same day as the towers for God's sake. So memorable
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The most complete hip hop album of all-time. Greatly appreciated.
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Easily agreed.
It's a good album but thats where it stops. The most overrated album of the past decade, easily.
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Go ahead, show me a more WELL ROUNDED album. The Blueprint may not be the greatest at any one thing, but I'll be damned if it ain't hitting on all cylinders.
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Im not sure what you mean by well rounded but I feel that ATLiens, Doggystyle, TES, (I can name more but I don't feel like typing them all out) are all more "well rounded" than BP. At least by my definition. I just don't see the big deal with the Blueprint. I bought it on Sep 11th listened to it, didn't enjoy it that much. Tried getting back into it again recently and I still wasn't feeling it that much, I like BP2 more than BP. Just because I don't like it doesn't mean its not a classic album though. I understand that the general consensus is that its a classic, I just feel that its overrated.
I'll just put it to you like this as a rapper... trying to re-create the Blueprint vibe, sound, and TIMING is impossible. But if it could be done, and replicated, The Blueprint "formula" would produce more success for more aspiring rappers than any other "formula" so far. Ask a guy who never played ball who his favorite player is. You'll get a zillion names. Go ask a person who LIVES for basketball. You'll get one name 93% of the time. The Blueprint is to most rappers of my era as Jordan is to most hoopers of my era. Even if they don't realize it....




I respectfully disagree. My honest opinion on BP is that 'Ye came harder than Jay did, no **@@ of course.
 
^It's absolutely nuts... My life is the first verse of Girls Girls Girl rmx right now
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. and the production on Hola is weird butcompletely dope to me. Like, if he'd have featured 3 stacks I feel that would be every one's favorite song from the album. The flavor of the song is sosouth of the border. It's just not what you expect from Mr. NYC.
 
Originally Posted by N3FF 3000

Originally Posted by DearWinter219

Originally Posted by N3FF 3000

Originally Posted by DearWinter219

That #!%% is a classic and the most important album of my 20 years on earth. Say what you will, but that's the album that "awakened" me to the layers of rap below the surface. I've always heard rap, but I wasn't necessarily listening. I went from a parrot to a writer that year. That album dropped the same day as the towers for God's sake. So memorable
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The most complete hip hop album of all-time. Greatly appreciated.
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Easily agreed.
It's a good album but thats where it stops. The most overrated album of the past decade, easily.
Click to expand...
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Go ahead, show me a more WELL ROUNDED album. The Blueprint may not be the greatest at any one thing, but I'll be damned if it ain't hitting on all cylinders.
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Im not sure what you mean by well rounded but I feel that ATLiens, Doggystyle, TES, (I can name more but I don't feel like typing them all out) are all more "well rounded" than BP. At least by my definition. I just don't see the big deal with the Blueprint. I bought it on Sep 11th listened to it, didn't enjoy it that much. Tried getting back into it again recently and I still wasn't feeling it that much, I like BP2 more than BP. Just because I don't like it doesn't mean its not a classic album though. I understand that the general consensus is that its a classic, I just feel that its overrated.
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I'll just put it to you like this as a rapper... trying to re-create the Blueprint vibe, sound, and TIMING is impossible. But if it could be done, and replicated, The Blueprint "formula" would produce more success for more aspiring rappers than any other "formula" so far. Ask a guy who never played ball who his favorite player is. You'll get a zillion names. Go ask a person who LIVES for basketball. You'll get one name 93% of the time. The Blueprint is to most rappers of my era as Jordan is to most hoopers of my era. Even if they don't realize it....




I respectfully disagree. My honest opinion on BP is that 'Ye came harder than Jay did, no **@@ of course.


It's cool...
 
Originally Posted by DearWinter219

and the production on Hola is weird but completely dope to me. Like, if he'd have featured 3 stacks I feel that would be every one's favorite song from the album. The flavor of the song is so south of the border. It's just not what you expect from Mr. NYC.
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Hola Hovito is dope and if 3 stacks was on it, it WOULD be my favorite song on the album. Assuming he came correct.
 
Jigga That $*@%* is the only song I can condone skipping. I guess H to the IZZO as well, but only because it got so played out.

And yes, that first verse on Girls remix is absurd.
 
Originally Posted by N3FF 3000

Originally Posted by DearWinter219

and the production on Hola is weird but completely dope to me. Like, if he'd have featured 3 stacks I feel that would be every one's favorite song from the album. The flavor of the song is so south of the border. It's just not what you expect from Mr. NYC.
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Hola Hovito is dope and if 3 stacks was on it, it WOULD be my favorite song on the album. Assuming he came correct.
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co-sign....Timbo destroyed that beat.....3 Stacks on this uuuuggggghhhhh would'a been incredibly epic

"vatos locos got rap in a chokehold
and I won't surrender it with beats by Timberland" - Hov

Honestly I would have to co-sign this album being a classic....Like Rilla said this is one of the most well-rounded albums I've heard in a long time...agreat balance of concepts, all the production was on point, club bangers, and a "classic" diss track
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Originally Posted by yungmatt

Originally Posted by DOWNTOWN43

overrated.

i don't know how it can be considered a classic when there are skippable tracks on it.
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What skippable tracks are you referring to?
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Izzo
Girls,Girls,Girls
Jigga That N___
Hola Hovito
 
Originally Posted by mossman75

Originally Posted by yungmatt

Originally Posted by DOWNTOWN43

overrated.

i don't know how it can be considered a classic when there are skippable tracks on it.
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What skippable tracks are you referring to?
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Izzo
Girls,Girls,Girls
Jigga That N___
Hola Hovito
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An easier question is what tracks are actually listenable to... for me it's only Takeover. Sometimes I'll let Renegade play just to think about howoverrated the verses on it are.
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Originally Posted by SoHi 23

I've always thought this album was crazy overrated.

Regardless, amazing production and Jay on point = great album.

All I Need
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What is this someone has stated this before myself?!?!?! Is the world turning upright again?


Originally Posted by Deuce King

The most complete hip hop album of all-time. Greatly appreciated.
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You lie... either that or you are delusional
 
You might as well call me the catalyst for BP hate on this site, Jay slobbery will never end, neither will differing opinions...Count me out of this one.
 
I was letting y'all hate for everything Jay-Z get to me for a second with the way I viewed Blueprint...then I gave it a good few listens again during theday to day...AMAZING ALBUM.

This joint is classic in the way Illmatic is classic. It just flows. Production and lyrics were perfect.

People can dissect and try to break down the lack of super-lyricism, concepts, what ever you want but Jay proved on this album that Hip-Hop is an art form andmusic is expression not just technical rhyming. The ambiance and cohesiveness on this joint is like no other. He talked you through it, in the most complex yetsimple way possible. He didn't overpower te soul with comlex lyricism, just talked over it like one of your dudes or a family member. Throwing in that oldconventional wisdom and old time sayings and putting it in a way that had to make you feel it. You can give these tracks to any other MC in the game and youwill never get this type of album. Uniquely Jay. Everyone else is his son as far as this Blueprint goes.

Classic, classic album.
 
Originally Posted by DearWinter219

Originally Posted by N3FF 3000

Originally Posted by DearWinter219

That #!%% is a classic and the most important album of my 20 years on earth. Say what you will, but that's the album that "awakened" me to the layers of rap below the surface. I've always heard rap, but I wasn't necessarily listening. I went from a parrot to a writer that year. That album dropped the same day as the towers for God's sake. So memorable
smh.gif

The most complete hip hop album of all-time. Greatly appreciated.
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Easily agreed.
It's a good album but thats where it stops. The most overrated album of the past decade, easily.
Click to expand...
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Go ahead, show me a more WELL ROUNDED album. The Blueprint may not be the greatest at any one thing, but I'll be damned if it ain't hitting on all cylinders.
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Im not sure what you mean by well rounded but I feel that ATLiens, Doggystyle, TES, (I can name more but I don't feel like typing them all out) are all more "well rounded" than BP. At least by my definition. I just don't see the big deal with the Blueprint. I bought it on Sep 11th listened to it, didn't enjoy it that much. Tried getting back into it again recently and I still wasn't feeling it that much, I like BP2 more than BP. Just because I don't like it doesn't mean its not a classic album though. I understand that the general consensus is that its a classic, I just feel that its overrated.
I'll just put it to you like this as a rapper... trying to re-create the Blueprint vibe, sound, and TIMING is impossible. But if it could be done, and replicated, The Blueprint "formula" would produce more success for more aspiring rappers than any other "formula" so far. Ask a guy who never played ball who his favorite player is. You'll get a zillion names. Go ask a person who LIVES for basketball. You'll get one name 93% of the time. The Blueprint is to most rappers of my era as Jordan is to most hoopers of my era. Even if they don't realize it....


Blueprint is a great album, probably even a classic and one of the 10 best albums of the decade in my opinion... but this type of hyperbole isjust ridiculous
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This joint is classic in the way Illmatic is classic.

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no song on Illmatic sucks, i.e. Jigga that #%!+!. and Illmatic has no commercial nonsense like H to the Izzo.

don't ever compare BP to Illmatic
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I could never understand how some people don't like Izzo.

One of my favorite tracks on the album.

I think anything that has a hit video to it nowadays is chalked up as wack.

"Hov is back. Life story told thru rap.._s acting like I sold you crack. Like I told you sell drugs...no Hov did that so hopefully you wouldn't haveto go through that. I was raised in the projects, roaches and rats. Smokers out back, selling their mommas sofa. Lookouts on the corner, focused on the Ave.Ladies in the window focused on the kinfolk. Me under a lamp post...why I got my hands close?...Cracks in my palm. Watching the long arm of the law...so youknow I seen it all before. I seen hoops dreams deflate like a true fiends weight...."

So Marcy
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If that commercial nonsense...I wish more MCs spit that commercial s_.

And I didn't say that the album was as good as Illmatic...I said it is classic in the same way as Illmatic as far as the cohesion and the feel.
 
Originally Posted by M16

Originally Posted by mossman75

Originally Posted by yungmatt

Originally Posted by DOWNTOWN43

overrated.

i don't know how it can be considered a classic when there are skippable tracks on it.
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What skippable tracks are you referring to?
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Izzo
Girls,Girls,Girls
Jigga That N___
Hola Hovito
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An easier question is what tracks are actually listenable to... for me it's only Takeover. Sometimes I'll let Renegade play just to think about how overrated the verses on it are.
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Why you trying so hard to front for?
 
Originally Posted by red mpls

Originally Posted by DearWinter219

Originally Posted by N3FF 3000

Originally Posted by DearWinter219

That #!%% is a classic and the most important album of my 20 years on earth. Say what you will, but that's the album that "awakened" me to the layers of rap below the surface. I've always heard rap, but I wasn't necessarily listening. I went from a parrot to a writer that year. That album dropped the same day as the towers for God's sake. So memorable
smh.gif

The most complete hip hop album of all-time. Greatly appreciated.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Easily agreed.
It's a good album but thats where it stops. The most overrated album of the past decade, easily.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Go ahead, show me a more WELL ROUNDED album. The Blueprint may not be the greatest at any one thing, but I'll be damned if it ain't hitting on all cylinders.
Click to expand...


Im not sure what you mean by well rounded but I feel that ATLiens, Doggystyle, TES, (I can name more but I don't feel like typing them all out) are all more "well rounded" than BP. At least by my definition. I just don't see the big deal with the Blueprint. I bought it on Sep 11th listened to it, didn't enjoy it that much. Tried getting back into it again recently and I still wasn't feeling it that much, I like BP2 more than BP. Just because I don't like it doesn't mean its not a classic album though. I understand that the general consensus is that its a classic, I just feel that its overrated.
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I'll just put it to you like this as a rapper... trying to re-create the Blueprint vibe, sound, and TIMING is impossible. But if it could be done, and replicated, The Blueprint "formula" would produce more success for more aspiring rappers than any other "formula" so far. Ask a guy who never played ball who his favorite player is. You'll get a zillion names. Go ask a person who LIVES for basketball. You'll get one name 93% of the time. The Blueprint is tomost rappers of my era as Jordan is to most hoopers of my era. Even if they don't realize it....


Blueprint is a great album, probably even a classic and one of the 10 best albums of the decade in my opinion... but this type of hyperbole is just ridiculous
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That wasn't hyperbole. At all. It's solid irrefutable fact. I'm not saying you have to agree, but if youdon't, at least realize you're in the minority.
 
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