To the Young Black Conservatives.....

Well most conservatives believe in lower taxes and keeping more of the money they earned, but that doesnt mean they dont use the money to better theircommunities. They just feel why give what I earned to the government to waste (which the government does quite well) when I can put it to much better use on myown.
 
That was a mature rebuttal that ignored the personal attack
3eb151ec33962653ee5e83e7022253d4a852085.gif
 
There are a lot of good things about the Republican party - they just happen to have gotten away from them to the mainstream media, and are also facing tons ofbacklash for the Bush years (with Clinton happening right before) - so your views on them are obviously skewed...all of ours are,

Why wouldn't you want to be conservative though Haze? You think bigger government/more governmental influence in our daily lives is the answer?


I have no opinion on the matter, just adding something for you to respond to....

EDIT - And this is NOT the place to have this discussion. I just hope you're not making this post to feel good/look good...you know you're not going toget anything out of this
 
Originally Posted by UTVOL23

Well most conservatives believe in lower taxes and keeping more of the money they earned, but that doesnt mean they dont use the money to better their communities. They just feel why give what I earned to the government to waste when I can put it to much better use on my own.

I think everyone agrees with lower taxes. It issues like gov't spending on social programs vs military expenditures and corporate incentives, where therift begin to form.

I don't agree with the dems on gun control for one...

This is a great point.

Im am pro-gun ownership but I don't see Democratic calls for longer barrels on assault rifles and better background check, waiting periods as a bad thing.All law abiding Americans should be able to own firearm freely...but should the average person be able to cop 100 M4s everyday with no waiting period orbackground check? That can only lead to problems and coming from the inner city I also see the havoc that an unregulated gun market can have on American (andnow Mexican) communities.
 
Originally Posted by Chi ILL

I never said that you can't be a conservative & also care about the Black community ...
Originally Posted by Chi ILL

Even if you believe in conservative values (and you're Black) you should still want to better your Black brothers & sisters .
That second statement implies that black conservatives dont want to help their fellow blacks.

also lets be serious here, this thread was directed at a few specific people... Gordon Gecko being one of them
 
One of my things with conservatism is Uter....they claim to be the party for smaller gov't/less intrusion...yet they rally around issues like same sexmarriage (which I don't agree with), racial politics, abortion, religion, culture wars, etc..while ignoring the true and only purpose that the Americangov't is supposed to serve. To uphold and protect the welfare of American citizens.

Healthcare & Education are two of the most critical sectors to a nations welfare but usually the first things cut of picked on by conservatives.

I can never rock with that.
 
Originally Posted by ericberry14

Originally Posted by Chi ILL

I never said that you can't be a conservative & also care about the Black community ...
Originally Posted by Chi ILL

Even if you believe in conservative values (and you're Black) you should still want to better your Black brothers & sisters .
That second statement implies that black conservatives dont want to help their fellow blacks.

also lets be serious here, this thread was directed at a few specific people... Gordon Gecko being one of them
i see what you did there
laugh.gif
 
Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

Originally Posted by UTVOL23

Well most conservatives believe in lower taxes and keeping more of the money they earned, but that doesnt mean they dont use the money to better their communities. They just feel why give what I earned to the government to waste when I can put it to much better use on my own.

I think everyone agrees with lower taxes. It issues like gov't spending on social programs vs military expenditures and corporate incentives, where the rift begin to form.

I don't agree with the dems on gun control for one...

This is a great point.

Im am pro-gun ownership but I don't see Democratic calls for longer barrels on assault rifles and better background check, waiting periods as a bad thing. All law abiding Americans should be able to own firearm freely...but should the average person be able to cop 100 M4s everyday with no waiting period or background check? That can only lead to problems and coming from the inner city I also see the havoc that an unregulated gun market can have on American (and now Mexican) communities.



If there are stricter gun laws, it isn't going to be affecting the average American but it will help keep them out of the hands of people whoshouldn't be having them in the first place.
 
EDIT - And this is NOT the place to have this discussion. I just hope you're not making this post to feel good/look good...you know you're not going to get anything out of this
He's really not trying to argue , there's nothing wrong with discussing something ...

It's just that people seem to get offended & start to use personal attacks that aren't needed .

I like intelligent discussions , even if someone is wrong or not , there isn't anything wrong with learning new things .

Instead of NTers being ignorant towards others beliefs, they should make these threads ,
ask these questions , to get better understanding of what others actually think ,
instead of attacking them solely based off the fact that are in another political party .

EDIT - Haze don't lock it .
 
Originally Posted by ericberry14

Originally Posted by Chi ILL

I never said that you can't be a conservative & also care about the Black community ...
Originally Posted by Chi ILL

Even if you believe in conservative values (and you're Black) you should still want to better your Black brothers & sisters .
That second statement implies that black conservatives dont want to help their fellow blacks.

also lets be serious here, this thread was directed at a few specific people... Gordon Gecko being one of them
I honestly forgot about this dude.

I'm thinking locking this up might be the best idea after all.....


29mx94n.gif
 
Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

Originally Posted by ericberry14

Originally Posted by Chi ILL

I never said that you can't be a conservative & also care about the Black community ...
Originally Posted by Chi ILL

Even if you believe in conservative values (and you're Black) you should still want to better your Black brothers & sisters .
That second statement implies that black conservatives dont want to help their fellow blacks.

also lets be serious here, this thread was directed at a few specific people... Gordon Gecko being one of them
I honestly forgot about this dude.

I'm thinking locking this up might be the best idea after all.....


29mx94n.gif
laugh.gif

come on ABH, i'm sitting this thread out. go all in.
 
Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

I don't agree with the dems on gun control for one...

This is a great point.

Im am pro-gun ownership but I don't see Democratic calls for longer barrels on assault rifles and better background check, waiting periods as a bad thing. All law abiding Americans should be able to own firearm freely...but should the average person be able to cop 100 M4s everyday with no waiting period or background check? That can only lead to problems and coming from the inner city I also see the havoc that an unregulated gun market can have on American (and now Mexican) communities.

It's more than that. Unless you are doing a private sale to someone face to face background checks do occur. When I bought the lower receiverto my rifle I had background check. It is

illegal to do a private sale with a person who you suspect to be a felon or is not a state resident. For me to purchase a firearm out of state it would have tobe sent to a gun store or a pawn

shop with a ffl (federal firearm license). What more do the dems want in terms of gun control. And the problem inMexico is not the fault of the U.S. Why should I believe that the cartels

are coming to the here and spending $1500 on "Assualt Rifles" when they can get cheap guns from China, Russia, and other former Soviet bloccountries. The way the dems push this so

hard and the way the portray gun owners who own so called "Assualt Rifles" just turns me off from them. Also lower taxes are cool too...
 
Originally Posted by Chi ILL

EDIT - And this is NOT the place to have this discussion. I just hope you're not making this post to feel good/look good...you know you're not going to get anything out of this
He's really not trying to argue , there's nothing wrong with discussing something ...

It's just that people seem to get offended & start to use personal attacks that aren't needed .

I like intelligent discussions , even if someone is wrong or not , there isn't anything wrong with learning new things .

Instead of NTers being ignorant towards others beliefs, they should make these threads ,
ask these questions , to get better understanding of what others actually think ,
instead of attacking them solely based off the fact that are in another political party .

EDIT - Haze don't lock it .

You do the exact same thing you condemn others of when it comes to religion.
 
Originally Posted by AR Guy

Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

I don't agree with the dems on gun control for one...

This is a great point.

Im am pro-gun ownership but I don't see Democratic calls for longer barrels on assault rifles and better background check, waiting periods as a bad thing. All law abiding Americans should be able to own firearm freely...but should the average person be able to cop 100 M4s everyday with no waiting period or background check? That can only lead to problems and coming from the inner city I also see the havoc that an unregulated gun market can have on American (and now Mexican) communities.
It's more than that. Unless you are doing a private sale to someone face to face background checks do occur. When I bought the lower receiver to my rifle I had background check. It is

illegal to do a private sale with a person who you suspect to be a felon or is not a state resident. For me to purchase a firearm out of state it would have to be sent to a gun store or a pawn

shop with a ffl (federal firearm license). What more do the dems want in terms of gun control. And the problem in Mexico is not the fault of the U.S. Why should I believe that the cartels

are coming to the here and spending $1500 on "Assualt Rifles" when they can get cheap guns from China, Russia, and other former Soviet bloc countries. The way the dems push this so

hard and the way the portray gun owners who own so called "Assualt Rifles" just turns me off from them. Also lower taxes are cool too...



90% of the recovered guns used in Mexican crime, which are able to be traced, have been traced back to American stores. China, Russia and Russia isn'tanywhere near as close to Mexico and Texas (the most gun friendly state) is. Even if the weapons are manufactured overseas...they are coming from within USborders.

Most private sales are done through gun shows, which are one huge loophole in the whole verification process. I easily get a PA or VA gun license even though Ilive in New York and purchase as much of whatever I want as often as I want and coolly drive it back to New York where they will be used to take lives.

With something like a gun that is made to kill and injure humans. I don't see any problem with progressive and effective regulation.
 
Originally Posted by CuriousGeorg3

didnt the republican party free blacks from slavery?


the republican and democratic parties have kind of reversed since back then.
 
Originally Posted by nick0lis

Originally Posted by CuriousGeorg3

didnt the republican party free blacks from slavery?


the republican and democratic parties have kind of reversed since back then.
And didn't Lincoln only do that to piss off the south?
 
Originally Posted by Lazy B

Originally Posted by JohnnyRedStorm

Originally Posted by nick0lis

Originally Posted by CuriousGeorg3

didnt the republican party free blacks from slavery?


the republican and democratic parties have kind of reversed since back then.
And didn't Lincoln only do that to piss off the south?

Yep. He killed their economy which was slave driven and slavery was a part of Southern culture.. Lincoln hated blacks, don't let the EP make you think otherwise. If he could have he would have "sent them back to where they came from".


Bingo
 
Originally Posted by JohnnyRedStorm

Originally Posted by nick0lis

Originally Posted by CuriousGeorg3

didnt the republican party free blacks from slavery?


the republican and democratic parties have kind of reversed since back then.
And didn't Lincoln only do that to piss off the south?

Yep. He killed their economy which was slave driven and slavery was a part of Southern culture.. Lincoln hated blacks, don't let the EP make you thinkotherwise. If he could have he would have "sent them back to where they came from".
 
Originally Posted by JohnnyRedStorm

Originally Posted by Chi ILL

EDIT - And this is NOT the place to have this discussion. I just hope you're not making this post to feel good/look good...you know you're not going to get anything out of this
He's really not trying to argue , there's nothing wrong with discussing something ...

It's just that people seem to get offended & start to use personal attacks that aren't needed .

I like intelligent discussions , even if someone is wrong or not , there isn't anything wrong with learning new things .

Instead of NTers being ignorant towards others beliefs, they should make these threads ,
ask these questions , to get better understanding of what others actually think ,
instead of attacking them solely based off the fact that are in another political party .

EDIT - Haze don't lock it .
You do the exact same thing you condemn others of when it comes to religion.


she's a hypocrite...

but she'll never admit that
 
Originally Posted by JohnnyRedStorm

Originally Posted by Chi ILL

EDIT - And this is NOT the place to have this discussion. I just hope you're not making this post to feel good/look good...you know you're not going to get anything out of this
He's really not trying to argue , there's nothing wrong with discussing something ...

It's just that people seem to get offended & start to use personal attacks that aren't needed .

I like intelligent discussions , even if someone is wrong or not , there isn't anything wrong with learning new things .

Instead of NTers being ignorant towards others beliefs, they should make these threads ,
ask these questions , to get better understanding of what others actually think ,
instead of attacking them solely based off the fact that are in another political party .

EDIT - Haze don't lock it .
You do the exact same thing you condemn others of when it comes to religion.


Well call me out on that in those threads .

Most of the time , I'm saying those things in question form , because I want to know why ...

The same reason the people in those threads ask us how can we believe certain things .

I never want to knock ANYONE'S religion , I just state my opinion on mine .

I never meant to do that though , at all , that isn't cool .
tired.gif
 
Originally Posted by nick0lis

Originally Posted by CuriousGeorg3

didnt the republican party free blacks from slavery?


the republican and democratic parties have kind of reversed since back then.
Yes, compare a map from an early 1900's presidential race to a post LBJ map, the "solid south" went from Democrat to Republican.Ending segregation didn't sit too well with them.
 
Originally Posted by JohnnyRedStorm

Originally Posted by nick0lis

Originally Posted by CuriousGeorg3

didnt the republican party free blacks from slavery?


the republican and democratic parties have kind of reversed since back then.
And didn't Lincoln only do that to piss off the south?


i honestly am not that knowledgeable on the subject, im not gonna make up some bs crap, i just heard they are reversed. would you enlighten me? edit- damn ididnt know that, i thought he was a cool dude.
 
Back
Top Bottom