Here come the TAXES. Better buy the stuff you wanted off the Internet now!!

Originally Posted by LilStarZ07

so hold up let me get this straight ... youre saying because the state isnt specifically stating that "THIS TAX MONEY WILL GO TOWARD PAYING BACK THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT" then theres no way it does? .... ... ... .... i know youre close minded but please dont tell me you believe that ...

so the state makes revenue whichever way it can and puts it in a pot, and at the end of the day it has to pay the federal government back from that pot ... part of that pot consists of this eventual tax money and therefore it contributes to paying the federal government back ...

i never said this is the only thing that will pay back the fed govt, but as i did say, each state will be looking to incease revenue anyway it can in order to pay back the increase of funds that will be taken from them by the fed govt ...

the government isnt profiting off this tax increase directly, but rather indirectly ... learn to look one step further and not analyze everything for face value
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u really can't admit when you're wrong? yes, itsus close minded folk who consult fact and make arguments based on them that are wrong
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states dont have to pay back the federal gov't.
 
o they dont? i wasnt aware that states didnt pay ANY money to the federal government, even after they received "stimulus" money ...
 
the government isnt profiting off this tax increase directly, but rather indirectly ... learn to look one step further and not analyze everything for face value
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how old are you, honestly? I picture a 14 year old kidon the other end of a statement like this, especially given the context in which you just said it.


Believe it or not, state governments aren't in "business" to turn a profit - they pretty much spend what they bring in, and are generallyunderfunded for the amount of "work" that actually needs done on a year to year basis.

You are trying to make this much bigger than it is - maybe you should read up a bit on the actual policies of your state first before you throw these blanketstatements and accusations around here little buddy.
 
you have 18,000 posts on niketalk and arent a mod or anything ... who needs to grow up? im still waiting for you to enlighten me as to where im wrong? nothingyou just said had anything to do with what i said ... when did i say a state government is looking to make a profit? if you are referring to me saying theyneed to increase revenue, that doesnt mean increase profit ... so before you start accusing people of being 14 years old and what not, make sure you canunderstand the english language ...

... ill wait for you to add something of substance to this thread other than "o youre wrong" ... but something tellse me youll just post a emoticonand exit ...
 
you have 18,000 posts on niketalk and arent a mod or anything ... who needs to grow up?

Wow - thanks for making my point kiddo.

I've spent far too many of those 18k posts arguing with nit wits like you who won't even read what I just said to spend anymore time in this threadwith you.

To recap:

You said the federal government was going to get more money out of state sales tax increases... without any proof. And when you were told otherwise, you triedto turn it around like everybody else was wrong and needed evidence... the burden of proof is on the child making a ridiculous, unfounded claim... ie, you.

For the record - simply spouting off about your own personal theories without any factual backing is not proof of anything.

But keep up the good work - you're fitting in really well with the right-wing fanboys here on NT.
 
exactly as i said, nothing of substance, just pesonal attacks ...

but lets recap your recap for a second ... no thats not what i said at all ... i said the state governments have to increase revenue any way they can tosupport what tehy were "given" ... please tell me otherwise and ill concede defeat ... its easy making that statement because its true
 
LilStarZ07 - Honest question, how old are you? Just wondering cause some of the stuff you've been saying in this post is the most uneducated nonsenseI've ever heard.

STATE tax on internet purchases might be able to better fund the public school system you're in
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LOL ... sooo youre asking me how old i am and then you post that nonsense? when did i say it will fund the public school system im in? naw never that, but whati did say was it would HELP to pay off the "debt" from the fed each state has ...

answer these questions for me ...

1. does each state have a monetary obligation to the federal government?
2. will those obligations increase as a result of this administration?
3. does state taxes help pay for those monetary obligations?













end of story ... %@+@@+ tellin me to read soemthing, get a %!*#!$$ clue
 
Originally Posted by LilStarZ07

LOL ... sooo youre asking me how old i am and then you post that nonsense? when did i say it will fund the public school system im in? naw never that, but what i did say was it would HELP to pay off the "debt" from the fed each state has ...

answer these questions for me ...

1. does each state have a monetary obligation to the federal government?
2. will those obligations increase as a result of this administration?
3. does state taxes help pay for those monetary obligations?













end of story ... %@+@@+ tellin me to read soemthing, get a %!*#!$$ clue
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naw I'm not saying you said that, only implyingthat's what STATE taxes do. They fund things like schools, not the current Presidents spending.

And come on...humor us and just tell us your age
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where was the complaining when the money was being spent on sustaining the war effort?
really...this is no different...but now it's helping the US people, not corporations and Iraqis.

btw... here's an old article from 07, but you can bet it still applicable today....
http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2007/10/10/news/nation/12_37_3110_9_07.txt


Most states pay less in taxes than they receive in federal spending

WASHINGTON -- The federal government's system of taxing and spending works out well for people in states like New Mexico, Mississippi and West Virginia.

Not so well for those in Delaware, Minnesota and New Jersey.

New Mexico received $3.10 in federal spending for every tax dollar the state sent to Washington in 2005 -- more than any other state -- according to an Associated Press analysis of new federal data.

Delaware fared the worst, receiving just 42 cents for every tax dollar sent to Washington. It was followed closely by Minnesota, which got 46 cents, and New Jersey, 57 cents.

In all, 30 states and the District of Columbia received more money from the federal government than they paid in federal taxes.

No wonder there's a federal budget deficit.

"I don't get all worked up that Minnesota only gets 46 cents back. I get worked up about the lack of accountability," said Lynn Reed, executive director of the Minnesota Taxpayers Association, which advocates for a more transparent tax system.

"You could write into law that every state should get at least 80 cents back, but that's dumb," he said. "It's inefficient."

The Census Bureau released its annual report on 2005 spending by the federal government Tuesday. It documents the geographic distribution of $2.3 trillion in government spending, including salaries, grants, military pay, government contracts and Social Security payments. It excludes interest on the national debt, overseas spending and the classified budgets of intelligence agencies.

The AP compared the census data to previously released IRS figures for 2005 federal tax collections. The IRS data includes individual, corporate and excise taxes.

The analysis shows that wealthy states pay more than poor ones, blue states subsidize red states, and states with powerful politicians on key House and Senate committees fare well in federal spending.

High-income states like New Jersey, Connecticut and Massachusetts paid more in taxes than they received in federal spending, while low-income states like Mississippi, West Virginia and Alabama got a much higher return for their tax dollars.

The exceptions were Alaska, Hawaii, Virginia and Maryland -- high-income states that also received high levels of government spending.

Scott Hodge, president of the Tax Foundation, a Washington research group, said the numbers represent a massive redistribution of the nation's wealth.

"I don't think the tax code should be used to redistribute wealth around the country," Hodge said. "It should simply be a tool to pay for government programs."

Why not redistribute wealth? asked James Horney, director of federal fiscal policy at the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, a Washington think tank.

"I think it is appropriate for people doing well to pay a higher share of their income (in taxes) than those at the bottom," Horney said.

Among the other findings:

--Nearly half of all federal spending went for Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, a percentage that is likely to increase as Baby Boomers near retirement age.

--Taxpayers in the District of Columbia paid the most federal taxes per person ($31,250), and received the most federal spending per person ($65,044). However, federal spending for Washington is inflated because many federal employees who work in the city live in Virginia or Maryland. The census counts federal salaries where they are paid, not where those receiving them live.

--Among the states, Delaware paid the most federal taxes per person, at $15,714. Alaska received the most federal spending per person, at $13,916.

--West Virginia paid the least in taxes, at $3,015 per person. The national average was $7,652 per person.

--Nevada received the least amount of federal spending per person, at $5,840. The national average was $7,706.
 
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damn NT is gullible as hell ... anyways ...

dirty, as i said before, you can bet any amount of money that those figures will increase on both sides of the spectrum ... however i would be willing to betas well, that the ratio will become smaller and smaller and eventually turn negative within a few years ...
 
Originally Posted by B Smooth 202

Originally Posted by Fede DPT

Originally Posted by Deuce King

Folks looking to blame Obama for any and everything these days. It's quite sad and pathetic.


Who is blaming Obama? Where does it say anything about Obama? The only people even mentioning "Obama" are the people who supported him.
Did you even read your own thread?
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Pathetic.
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You also failed to provide a source.
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Wanna post with some responsibility for once?
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Are you blind or just ******ed and your reading comprehension is just terrible?

CNET's Stephanie Condon contributed to this report.
 
Originally Posted by LilStarZ07

so hold up let me get this straight ... youre saying because the state isnt specifically stating that "THIS TAX MONEY WILL GO TOWARD PAYING BACK THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT" then theres no way it does? .... ... ... .... i know youre close minded but please dont tell me you believe that ...

so the state makes revenue whichever way it can and puts it in a pot, and at the end of the day it has to pay the federal government back from that pot ... part of that pot consists of this eventual tax money and therefore it contributes to paying the federal government back ...

i never said this is the only thing that will pay back the fed govt, but as i did say, each state will be looking to incease revenue anyway it can in order to pay back the increase of funds that will be taken from them by the fed govt ...

the government isnt profiting off this tax increase directly, but rather indirectly ... learn to look one step further and not analyze everything for face value
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