if your gay, is your identical twin gay too ?? GUCCI

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So my homegirl, is talking to some guy.. he hasnt made any moves on her ( which is real surprising cuz shes a *%@%* or used to be ) but he flirts and wants tohang out all the time.

He tells her that he has an identical twin, the funny thing... hes gay !
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so.. with all these.. your "born" gay statements.. is the guy my friend talking to.. Gay too ? or bi ? $!* im confused.


I told her to go all in
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and see how he replies, but due to workconflicts..wont be able to see each other until thursday.


im in for the lulz
 
I have absolutely no idea, but I'm eager to hear what NT's residential genetics experts have to say.
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you know what, my religion teacher was just telling us of this. there was a research done on twins and homosexuality, identical and non-identical twins. theyfound out that if one identical twin is homosexual, the chances of the other identical twin being homosexual was very high. compared to twins who were notidentical, if one of them were gay, the other non-identical twin being gay was lower compared to identical twins being gay. so in your case, yes this guy whohas a gay identical twin may be gay.
 
Originally Posted by infamousod

That'd be an interesting study but I'd venture to say no.
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Twin studies have been done....


[h1]Twin studies and homosexuality[/h1]
[h3]Bailey and Pillard (1991): occurrence of homosexuality among brothers[/h3]
  • 52% of identical (monozygotic) twins of homosexual men were likewise homosexual
  • 22% of fraternal (dizygotic) twins were likewise homosexual
  • 11% of adoptive brothers of homosexual men were likewise homosexual
J.M. Bailey and R.C. Pillard, "A genetic study of male sexual orientation," Archives of General Psychiatry, vol. 48:1089-1096, December1991.
[h3]Bailey and Pillard (1993): occurrence of homosexuality among sisters[/h3]
  • 48% of identical (monozygotic) twins of homosexual women were likewise homosexual (lesbian)
  • 16% of fraternal (dizygotic) twins were likewise homosexual
  • 6% of adoptive sisters of homosexual women were likewise homosexual
Bailey, J. M. and D. S. Benishay (1993), "Familial Aggregation of Female Sexual Orientation," American Journal of Psychiatry 150(2):272-277.
[h3]from Deborah Blum, Sex on the Brain: The Biological Differences Between Men and Women (NY: Viking, 1997), 132-133[/h3]
…homosexuality has been around for countless generations without its nonreproductive aspect making a dent in the unbelievable flood of humanity across theplanet. In fact, considering the march of human population-some six billion and counting-I could make the argument that the planet would be a little healthierif we had more same-sex couples and fewer heterosexual couples busy pursuing their reproductive potential.

"The essential genetics may not directly code for homosexuality at all, but something correlated with it," Bailey emphasizes. "Somethingthat's advantageous. What is it? We don't know. The alternative idea is that it's simply darned hard for biology to guarantee heterosexuality everytime, that it's not a stable system. The problem with that [theory] is that if it's hormones that set sexual orientation, they don't seem to havemuch problem guaranteeing that men get penises. So, why can't they keep sexual orientation straight? On the other hand, homosexuality is very rare…in otherwords, we don't know."

It was Bailey, with colleague Richard Dillard of Boston University, who set off today's zealous hunt for the genetics of sexual orientation. They puttogether a series of studies that almost everyone agrees established that there's a genetic "something" in sexual orientation. "Everyonelikes to nitpick," says Daryl Bern, a psychologist at Cornell University. "In the end it comes down to whether you believe the data or not. I believethe data. And part of that is that I trust Mike Bailey. He's very honest about what he has and he's very cautious in interpreting it."

In the early 1990s, Bailey and Dillard published a series of studies of twins, based on interviews with gay and straight brothers. There's a solid logicto twin studies: basically, people produce two types of twins-monozygotic (one egg, split) and dizygotic (two eggs, hanging out together). Most of us callmonozygotic twins identical and dizygotic twins fraternal. The difference is more complex, and more interesting, than whether the twins have matching faces.Because they come from the same egg, identical twins get identical genetic material-barring, say, the occasional mutation. Fraternal twins, from differenteggs, are as genetically close as any other siblings-about a 50 percent match. But, like identical twins, they share what scientists call a "twinned"environment. They develop in exactly the same amniotic fluid, equally exposed to whatever the mother eats or drinks. They age at the same rate, playing moreclosely than siblings separated by many years. Identical or fraternal, they are treated by others as a unit in the way that other siblings are not. If you wantto search for heritable influences by comparing the tightly matched genetics of an identical twin to the standard genetic link between siblings, fraternaltwins are the best way to do so. They let you filter out environmental interference.

Bailey and Pillard recruited 110 pairs of male twins, half identical, half fraternal. In each case, they knew that one twin was gay. They then sent aquestionnaire to the other brother in each pair, to determine his sexual orientation. Among the identical twins, 52 percent of the brothers were gay. Among thefraternals, the number was 22 percent, high enough above the background population rate to suggest that there was something distinctive in those families. Theresearchers found a very similar pattern with lesbians.

And Bailey has looked for confirmation abroad. His recent study out of the Australian Twin Registry, with almost 5,000 participants (roughly 1,800 sets oftwins and 1,300 unmatched twins), also tracked the same pattern. Bailey is quick to emphasize, too, that his initial study wasn't the first along theselines. A somewhat informal study in the 1940s, in which the researcher persisted in calling his subjects members of the "underworld," also found avery high probability that if one identical twin was gay, the other would be as well.

Still, Bailey worries that the survey methods-he and Pillard advertised for participants through gay newspapers-may have produced slightly inflated results.That is, people who read advocacy newspapers, who choose to respond to a publicly advertised survey, who enjoy the scrutiny, who like to call attention totheir lifestyle whatever it may be, may not reliably represent the entire community. That was one reason why he turned to the broader-based Australianstudy-and was reassured by the similar results.
[h3]on related issues:[/h3]
Simon LeVay, "A difference in hypothalamic structure between heterosexual and homosexual men," Science, vol. 253:1034-1037, 1991.

W. Byne and B. Parsons, "Human sexual orientation," Archives of General Psychiatry, vol. 50:228-239, March 1993.
 
I have heard of a set of twins, one being gay, the other being straight.
 
Originally Posted by aintFRESH

you know what, my religion teacher was just telling us of this. there was a research done on twins and homosexuality, identical and non-identical twins. they found out that if one identical twin is homosexual, the chances of the other identical twin being homosexual was very high. compared to twins who were not identical, if one of them were gay, the other non-identical twin being gay was lower compared to identical twins being gay. so in your case, yes this guy who has a gay identical twin may be gay.
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All the more reason we can assume that homosexuality is determined by genetics not choice.
 
I'd assume that your twin would be just as biologically predisposed to whatever it is that influences a person be born gay. But because there are alsooutside forces that affect that influence -- like socialization, culture, personal beliefs/experiences, etc -- I don't believe that the twin willnecessarily be gay or as gay as you.
 
Originally Posted by DearWinter219

I'd assume that your twin would be just as biologically predisposed to whatever it is that influences a person be born gay. But because there are also outside forces that affect that influence -- like socialization, culture, personal beliefs/experiences, etc -- I don't believe that the twin will necessarily be gay or as gay as you.
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This is exactly what I was going to say.
 
Originally Posted by 49ers650

Originally Posted by DearWinter219

I'd assume that your twin would be just as biologically predisposed to whatever it is that influences a person be born gay. But because there are also outside forces that affect that influence -- like socialization, culture, personal beliefs/experiences, etc -- I don't believe that the twin will necessarily be gay or as gay as you.
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This is exactly what I was going to say.
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Added to this.. If there is a gay gene, I don't think it's a 1 or 0 (not digital; as in gay or not gay).. But more analog (like in asliding scale) and affected by external factors..
 
I had a friend whose father was straight but his twin brother was gay.
 
if they are raised in the same house it seems like it would be fairly high, even if seperated at birth it would be a decent amount
 
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