the deep thought thread

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yo he's out
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will soulja boy be the next lil wayne? like how wayne was kinda wack thenhe got better and better....
 
What if ghost, bigfoot, chupacabra and humans all live in different dimensions, and the only way people see these creatures is when dimensions cross.

Or what if we all live in an "apartment building" and each floor belongs to a different creature, and the only way we see these creatures are in acommon place like the elevator or lobby?



Not sure if that makes sense to you guys.
 
Originally Posted by ATLien Seeko

Got one for you. I'll copy and paste it off my blog...

Today when I got lifted I started thinking and philosiphying about light and time and I came to the conclusion that there is no such thing as time. This is why... So you've heard that it takes the light from the sun 8 minutes to get to earth because it's so far away, right? So think about this... When you look up into the sky in the day time, you're seeing "8 minute old" light. Which means you're almost looking into the past. Which also means that the sun could actually not even be there at that moment due to whatever strange phenominal force taking it out, and we wouldnt know until 8 minutes later. Take a second and think about that if you have to... SO... From there, I started thinking furthermore about the subject and I thought about lights speed and came to another conclusion. The next one is that if you could somehow go faster than light "time" would HAVE to slow down or warp or something. That's because you would then be entering into "old light" that had already traveled past you and all the "new light" now takes "a longer time" to reach you or it might not ever if you never stop going faster than light. Now what would happen if you were to go exactly at the speed of light? Would we even be able to see? I say this because we have the ability to see because of light bouncing off of objects and the objects relaying the information about the object back to our eyes. So if we were to go AT the speed of light would everything behind you stand still and everything in front of you would just be a white or colorful blur? I went into deeper thought
about the subject, but what does everyone make out about this brainstorm?
If you went faster than the speed of light you would see nothing. The human body (and more specifically the eyes) were designed to see light onlywhen its in the visible range of the light spectrum. And since all forms of light travel at the speed of light, just at different wavelengths, you wouldinevitably outrun light, get to where ever it was headed before IT did, and see... NOTHING.
^^i think.
If you went at the speed of light,what you would see depends on the wavelength you were traveling.

but u my friend have stumbled upon the theory of relativity and E=mc^2 ...

now try to figure how it is that all mass in the universe, is merely energy that has slowed down...
(except dark matter, which is now believed to make up 95% of the universe and we cant even SEE IT!)
Originally Posted by CallHimAR

Why do people in other countries understand how to get serious political movements started, however in America which is the most Democratic and free society in the world, people feel that they can just go out and protest for one day and get the change they seek? Activism is a struggle, not a picnic.
This is why I refuse to stay within the U.S. if i want to accomplish something truly great with my life.

The majority of ppl in the U.S. (at least those that consider themselves americans) are very ethnocentric and materialistic.

Money isnt anything! Bettering humanity as a whole, is what we should all be concerned about, but unfortunately thats not the case.

Heres My Deep Thought:

How do you know theres a present?
If everything you do/say/THINK immediately becomes history the minute its "created"?
And if theres no present, is there a future? or merely the IDEA of a future?
(Time, just like money, doesnt exist, its merely an idea, that has been given symbols in order to have it be measured and represented accordingly)
No one even knows for sure what year it is!
 
Originally Posted by eNPHAN

how about our entire universe is one cell of one virus under some being's fingernail......?

and all germs and cells and molecules on our planet are universes as well.....

?

how about the big bang was created by an ET....who set the events in motion, but never intervened......

how would you feel if the bible's GOD refers to an ET being?
Meh... that's not too mind bottling...




What would TRULY +$#% my head up would be if God had no code of ethics. I mean, if there is a whole natural world FULL of life that exists on survivalistslogic and not societal or civilized logic, what are the chances that God is really like us? What if the term "God" is just a amalgamation of theconcept of Father Time and Mother Nature, both of which have no discernible higher intellect or "goal" so to speak. They are merely forces that existto exist. What if God was one of those "forces of existense" that doesn't pick and choose -- like ahurricane or a flood? What if He is the embodiment of Chaos Theory? What if we're all just random ants in his farm with no names or recognizabledifferences in his eyes? What if he doesn't care because he never has and never intended to? And what if we're lucky that he doesn't care, because if he did, he'd be fed up with our lack of faith and obedience? What if the world isstill spinning because God doesn't care enough to make it stop and reward the good ones?


Just some "thinkables" for whoever wants to think hard today
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Originally Posted by TheSwoosh

What is the universe expanding into?

...... Itself ?

If the universe is expanding, when will it contract?

.....eventually, time is relative.

Will you see the "big bang" if you reach the boundary of the universe?

........ There is no boundary

If you go into a black hole, where will you end up?

....... in another dimension

If there are extra-dimensional beings on earth, can they see us?

..... maybe. define "extra-dimensional" (watch that 'imagining the 10th dimension video)

How long will it take for an angel to weigh my good deeds against my bad deeds? Will this process be like waiting at the DMV on a saturday?

..... Depends what your interpretation of angel is... the afterlife is what YOU make of it.

If I am standing in the garden with rivers under it (inshallah) can I some how swim in them?

...... You can will yourself to do anything. (IMO)
 
So currently, we are all asleep. We "live" this "life" much like we do in a dream. It is completely irrational, crazy things happen, wearen't even ourselves. It continues until we die, and when we die in a dream we all know what happens. Now what happens when we wake up is an internaldebate I've been having with myself for a long while. If we really do have souls, HUMAN souls, then we may wake up at the very moment of conception, or themoment when we leave our mothers body at birth. Once we do wake up, a short time later we forget everything that we have dreamt because with normal dreams,this happens quite often. If we don't have a human soul persay, we may wake up as something completely different. Something unimaginable, somewherewe've never seen. Something beyond our comprehension.

I think about this a lot.
 
Originally Posted by DearWinter219

Originally Posted by eNPHAN

how about our entire universe is one cell of one virus under some being's fingernail......?

and all germs and cells and molecules on our planet are universes as well.....

?

how about the big bang was created by an ET....who set the events in motion, but never intervened......

how would you feel if the bible's GOD refers to an ET being?
Meh... that's not too mind bottling...




What would TRULY +$#% my head up would be if God had no code of ethics. I mean, if there is a whole natural world FULL of life that exists on survivalists logic and not societal or civilized logic, what are the chances that God is really like us? What if the term "God" is just a amalgamation of the concept of Father Time and Mother Nature, both of which have no discernible higher intellect or "goal" so to speak. They are merely forces that exist to exist. What if God was one of those "forces of existense" that doesn't pick and choose -- like a hurricane or a flood? What if He is the embodiment of Chaos Theory? What if we're all just random ants in his farm with no names or recognizable differences in his eyes? What if he doesn't care because he never has and never intended to? And what if we're lucky that he doesn't care, because if he did, he'd be fed up with our lack of faith and obedience? What if the world is still spinning because God doesn't care enough to make it stop and reward the good ones?


Just some "thinkables" for whoever wants to think hard today
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You cant use human thought process, words, or ideas to define/explain God.

If God is an "omnipotent being" (even using those words are wrong, but they'll work for having to explain this) then how could you even begin tounderstand what its like for God to exist.

In order for you to understand anything that God "is" then you would have to BE God!

Otherwise, your just wasting your time trying to figure it out.
 
Originally Posted by COOLnificent

Originally Posted by JUNIOR STRIKES

I got one'
A man is dressed in all black, black shoes, socks, pants, shirt, sweatshirt,gloves,scarf, hat, and another scarf that covers his face. He is walking down a completely black road. A black car without its lights on turns the corner and comes barreling towards the man, but manages to stop in time. How did the driver see the man in black???


It's day time
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that was easy
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Originally Posted by CallHimAR

So currently, we are all asleep. We "live" this "life" much like we do in a dream. It is completely irrational, crazy things happen, we aren't even ourselves. It continues until we die, and when we die in a dream we all know what happens. Now what happens when we wake up is an internal debate I've been having with myself for a long while. If we really do have souls, HUMAN souls, then we may wake up at the very moment of conception, or the moment when we leave our mothers body at birth. Once we do wake up, a short time later we forget everything that we have dreamt because with normal dreams, this happens quite often. If we don't have a human soul persay, we may wake up as something completely different. Something unimaginable, somewhere we've never seen. Something beyond our comprehension.

I think about this a lot.
Look into dark matter, and that would begin to explain what everything else consists of...

Besides, who are you to say where self-awareness begins?

You ever thought that everything is a cycle of death and rebirth, just in different ways, yet you are the same person everytime?

Example: You are conscious of you being a sperm, you meet an egg, and boom! you die. You are born as a human body, you are "aware" of your existencefor 9 months and BOOM! you die. only to be born on a different plane of existence, hence your current form. Each time, re-learning everything you know aboutyour then current world. but only aware of your previous forms because your a result of them. therefore you wont know what happens after you die, until, u die,and u look back upon what it was like to exist, as how you are now.
 
Originally Posted by YaAintReady

Originally Posted by DearWinter219

Originally Posted by eNPHAN

how about our entire universe is one cell of one virus under some being's fingernail......?

and all germs and cells and molecules on our planet are universes as well.....

?

how about the big bang was created by an ET....who set the events in motion, but never intervened......

how would you feel if the bible's GOD refers to an ET being?
Meh... that's not too mind bottling...




What would TRULY +$#% my head up would be if God had no code of ethics. I mean, if there is a whole natural world FULL of life that exists on survivalists logic and not societal or civilized logic, what are the chances that God is really like us? What if the term "God" is just a amalgamation of the concept of Father Time and Mother Nature, both of which have no discernible higher intellect or "goal" so to speak. They are merely forces that exist to exist. What if God was one of those "forces of existense" that doesn't pick and choose -- like a hurricane or a flood? What if He is the embodiment of Chaos Theory? What if we're all just random ants in his farm with no names or recognizable differences in his eyes? What if he doesn't care because he never has and never intended to? And what if we're lucky that he doesn't care, because if he did, he'd be fed up with our lack of faith and obedience? What if the world is still spinning because God doesn't care enough to make it stop and reward the good ones?


Just some "thinkables" for whoever wants to think hard today
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You cant use human thought process, words, or ideas to define/explain God.

If God is an "omnipotent being" (even using those words are wrong, but they'll work for having to explain this) then how could you even begin to understand what its like for God to exist.

In order for you to understand anything that God "is" then you would have to BE God!

Otherwise, your just wasting your time trying to figure it out.
I disagree, but I agree with your line of logic in a way. I too believe God is of a more complex understanding than we're capable of trulyconceiving, but it's not a waste of time to try
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Originally Posted by DearWinter219

Originally Posted by YaAintReady

Originally Posted by DearWinter219

Originally Posted by eNPHAN

how about our entire universe is one cell of one virus under some being's fingernail......?

and all germs and cells and molecules on our planet are universes as well.....

?

how about the big bang was created by an ET....who set the events in motion, but never intervened......

how would you feel if the bible's GOD refers to an ET being?
Meh... that's not too mind bottling...




What would TRULY +$#% my head up would be if God had no code of ethics. I mean, if there is a whole natural world FULL of life that exists on survivalists logic and not societal or civilized logic, what are the chances that God is really like us? What if the term "God" is just a amalgamation of the concept of Father Time and Mother Nature, both of which have no discernible higher intellect or "goal" so to speak. They are merely forces that exist to exist. What if God was one of those "forces of existense" that doesn't pick and choose -- like a hurricane or a flood? What if He is the embodiment of Chaos Theory? What if we're all just random ants in his farm with no names or recognizable differences in his eyes? What if he doesn't care because he never has and never intended to? And what if we're lucky that he doesn't care, because if he did, he'd be fed up with our lack of faith and obedience? What if the world is still spinning because God doesn't care enough to make it stop and reward the good ones?


Just some "thinkables" for whoever wants to think hard today
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You cant use human thought process, words, or ideas to define/explain God.

If God is an "omnipotent being" (even using those words are wrong, but they'll work for having to explain this) then how could you even begin to understand what its like for God to exist.

In order for you to understand anything that God "is" then you would have to BE God!

Otherwise, your just wasting your time trying to figure it out.
I disagree, but I agree with your line of logic in a way. I too believe God is of a more complex understanding than we're capable of truly conceiving, but it's not a waste of time to try
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If its not a waste of time, then how do you explain those who want to achieve "enlightenment" only trying to be "one" with theuniverse?

...instead of trying to understand who/what/how/why/where/when God is? Anyone thats ever tried to define God in human terms hasnt gotten very far.

Dont get me wrong tho, I see where you are trying to define your own way of seeing things, and everyone has their own path, so props to ya fam for being on urway.
 
Originally Posted by YaAintReady

Originally Posted by CallHimAR

So currently, we are all asleep. We "live" this "life" much like we do in a dream. It is completely irrational, crazy things happen, we aren't even ourselves. It continues until we die, and when we die in a dream we all know what happens. Now what happens when we wake up is an internal debate I've been having with myself for a long while. If we really do have souls, HUMAN souls, then we may wake up at the very moment of conception, or the moment when we leave our mothers body at birth. Once we do wake up, a short time later we forget everything that we have dreamt because with normal dreams, this happens quite often. If we don't have a human soul persay, we may wake up as something completely different. Something unimaginable, somewhere we've never seen. Something beyond our comprehension.

I think about this a lot.
Look into dark matter, and that would begin to explain what everything else consists of...

Besides, who are you to say where self-awareness begins?

You ever thought that everything is a cycle of death and rebirth, just in different ways, yet you are the same person everytime?

Example: You are conscious of you being a sperm, you meet an egg, and boom! you die. You are born as a human body, you are "aware" of your existence for 9 months and BOOM! you die. only to be born on a different plane of existence, hence your current form. Each time, re-learning everything you know about your then current world. but only aware of your previous forms because your a result of them. therefore you wont know what happens after you die, until, u die, and u look back upon what it was like to exist, as how you are now.

But we aren't aware of our previous forms. I don't remember what it was like in the womb, or as a sperm. Also, what makes me is the combination ofchromosomes from my mother and father, therefore the most logical point of self awareness would either be conception or when the brain actually develops. Mostlikely conception because we would then "wake up" from the dream that was our previous life. Things are constantly dying and things are constantlybeing born. This ties into reincarnation slightly because we may not have a specific human soul, but this may also be true for animals and insects as well.
 
Originally Posted by YaAintReady

Originally Posted by DearWinter219

Originally Posted by YaAintReady

Originally Posted by DearWinter219

Originally Posted by eNPHAN

how about our entire universe is one cell of one virus under some being's fingernail......?

and all germs and cells and molecules on our planet are universes as well.....

?

how about the big bang was created by an ET....who set the events in motion, but never intervened......

how would you feel if the bible's GOD refers to an ET being?
Meh... that's not too mind bottling...




What would TRULY +$#% my head up would be if God had no code of ethics. I mean, if there is a whole natural world FULL of life that exists on survivalists logic and not societal or civilized logic, what are the chances that God is really like us? What if the term "God" is just a amalgamation of the concept of Father Time and Mother Nature, both of which have no discernible higher intellect or "goal" so to speak. They are merely forces that exist to exist. What if God was one of those "forces of existense" that doesn't pick and choose -- like a hurricane or a flood? What if He is the embodiment of Chaos Theory? What if we're all just random ants in his farm with no names or recognizable differences in his eyes? What if he doesn't care because he never has and never intended to? And what if we're lucky that he doesn't care, because if he did, he'd be fed up with our lack of faith and obedience? What if the world is still spinning because God doesn't care enough to make it stop and reward the good ones?


Just some "thinkables" for whoever wants to think hard today
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You cant use human thought process, words, or ideas to define/explain God.

If God is an "omnipotent being" (even using those words are wrong, but they'll work for having to explain this) then how could you even begin to understand what its like for God to exist.

In order for you to understand anything that God "is" then you would have to BE God!

Otherwise, your just wasting your time trying to figure it out.
I disagree, but I agree with your line of logic in a way. I too believe God is of a more complex understanding than we're capable of truly conceiving, but it's not a waste of time to try
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If its not a waste of time, then how do you explain those who want to achieve "enlightenment" only trying to be "one" with the universe?

...instead of trying to understand who/what/how/why/where/when God is? Anyone thats ever tried to define God in human terms hasnt gotten very far.

Dont get me wrong tho, I see where you are trying to define your own way of seeing things, and everyone has their own path, so props to ya fam for being on ur way.
For starters, who's to say that finding enlightenment isn't what we all should be doing? The truth is, it's not a waste of timebecause NO ONE knows for sure which path is worth our time to begin with. So no path, not even the wrong path -- toward understanding can be a waste. Look at it like this. Since the world is round, in theory you can get anywhereon this globe by "walking" in a straight line. You might have to circumnavigate this globe a thousand times but eventually you'll get there. Evenif you intend to go to Cali from NY, if you start off ever so slightly N-by-NE, you'll eventually "walk" to the southwestern part of Californiaafter circling the globe an indefinite amount of times. A straight line may be the fastest route from A to B, but it's not the only one, nor is it usuallythe one with the most experience and knowledge to offer. You miss all the "sights" along the ride..

That's how this quest for understanding God is. No one is sure if they're walking in the right direction. But as long as you don't stop and youkeep going, you WILL get there eventually. That's what faith is. and faith is NEVER a waste of time. It's all you can really cling to in this world.
 
Originally Posted by CallHimAR

Originally Posted by YaAintReady

Originally Posted by CallHimAR

So currently, we are all asleep. We "live" this "life" much like we do in a dream. It is completely irrational, crazy things happen, we aren't even ourselves. It continues until we die, and when we die in a dream we all know what happens. Now what happens when we wake up is an internal debate I've been having with myself for a long while. If we really do have souls, HUMAN souls, then we may wake up at the very moment of conception, or the moment when we leave our mothers body at birth. Once we do wake up, a short time later we forget everything that we have dreamt because with normal dreams, this happens quite often. If we don't have a human soul persay, we may wake up as something completely different. Something unimaginable, somewhere we've never seen. Something beyond our comprehension.

I think about this a lot.
Look into dark matter, and that would begin to explain what everything else consists of...

Besides, who are you to say where self-awareness begins?

You ever thought that everything is a cycle of death and rebirth, just in different ways, yet you are the same person everytime?

Example: You are conscious of you being a sperm, you meet an egg, and boom! you die. You are born as a human body, you are "aware" of your existence for 9 months and BOOM! you die. only to be born on a different plane of existence, hence your current form. Each time, re-learning everything you know about your then current world. but only aware of your previous forms because your a result of them. therefore you wont know what happens after you die, until, u die, and u look back upon what it was like to exist, as how you are now.

But we aren't aware of our previous forms. I don't remember what it was like in the womb, or as a sperm. Also, what makes me is the combination of chromosomes from my mother and father, therefore the most logical point of self awareness would either be conception or when the brain actually develops. Most likely conception because we would then "wake up" from the dream that was our previous life. Things are constantly dying and things are constantly being born. This ties into reincarnation slightly because we may not have a specific human soul, but this may also be true for animals and insects as well.
your contradicting yourself. simply because you dont remember doesnt mean you didnt experience it.
and that animal thing does get me...
with my dog jus chillin starin at me, it gets me to think how he experiences life...
maybe, consciousness, as with time, is relative to the person experiencing it...
which in turn would explain that no matter what we do, we will only ever be able to experience life thru our own eyes...
and never someone elses....
 
Originally Posted by YaAintReady

Originally Posted by CallHimAR

Originally Posted by YaAintReady

Originally Posted by CallHimAR

So currently, we are all asleep. We "live" this "life" much like we do in a dream. It is completely irrational, crazy things happen, we aren't even ourselves. It continues until we die, and when we die in a dream we all know what happens. Now what happens when we wake up is an internal debate I've been having with myself for a long while. If we really do have souls, HUMAN souls, then we may wake up at the very moment of conception, or the moment when we leave our mothers body at birth. Once we do wake up, a short time later we forget everything that we have dreamt because with normal dreams, this happens quite often. If we don't have a human soul persay, we may wake up as something completely different. Something unimaginable, somewhere we've never seen. Something beyond our comprehension.

I think about this a lot.
Look into dark matter, and that would begin to explain what everything else consists of...

Besides, who are you to say where self-awareness begins?

You ever thought that everything is a cycle of death and rebirth, just in different ways, yet you are the same person everytime?

Example: You are conscious of you being a sperm, you meet an egg, and boom! you die. You are born as a human body, you are "aware" of your existence for 9 months and BOOM! you die. only to be born on a different plane of existence, hence your current form. Each time, re-learning everything you know about your then current world. but only aware of your previous forms because your a result of them. therefore you wont know what happens after you die, until, u die, and u look back upon what it was like to exist, as how you are now.

But we aren't aware of our previous forms. I don't remember what it was like in the womb, or as a sperm. Also, what makes me is the combination of chromosomes from my mother and father, therefore the most logical point of self awareness would either be conception or when the brain actually develops. Most likely conception because we would then "wake up" from the dream that was our previous life. Things are constantly dying and things are constantly being born. This ties into reincarnation slightly because we may not have a specific human soul, but this may also be true for animals and insects as well.
your contradicting yourself. simply because you dont remember doesnt mean you didnt experience it.
and that animal thing does get me...
with my dog jus chillin starin at me, it gets me to think how he experiences life...
maybe, consciousness, as with time, is relative to the person experiencing it...
which in turn would explain that no matter what we do, we will only ever be able to experience life thru our own eyes...
and never someone elses....
I meant self awareness for the "current form" as you put it. While we may have experienced it, we wouldn't be able to remember.
 
Originally Posted by DearWinter219

Originally Posted by YaAintReady

Originally Posted by DearWinter219

Originally Posted by YaAintReady

Originally Posted by DearWinter219

Originally Posted by eNPHAN

how about our entire universe is one cell of one virus under some being's fingernail......?

and all germs and cells and molecules on our planet are universes as well.....

?

how about the big bang was created by an ET....who set the events in motion, but never intervened......

how would you feel if the bible's GOD refers to an ET being?
Meh... that's not too mind bottling...




What would TRULY +$#% my head up would be if God had no code of ethics. I mean, if there is a whole natural world FULL of life that exists on survivalists logic and not societal or civilized logic, what are the chances that God is really like us? What if the term "God" is just a amalgamation of the concept of Father Time and Mother Nature, both of which have no discernible higher intellect or "goal" so to speak. They are merely forces that exist to exist. What if God was one of those "forces of existense" that doesn't pick and choose -- like a hurricane or a flood? What if He is the embodiment of Chaos Theory? What if we're all just random ants in his farm with no names or recognizable differences in his eyes? What if he doesn't care because he never has and never intended to? And what if we're lucky that he doesn't care, because if he did, he'd be fed up with our lack of faith and obedience? What if the world is still spinning because God doesn't care enough to make it stop and reward the good ones?


Just some "thinkables" for whoever wants to think hard today
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You cant use human thought process, words, or ideas to define/explain God.

If God is an "omnipotent being" (even using those words are wrong, but they'll work for having to explain this) then how could you even begin to understand what its like for God to exist.

In order for you to understand anything that God "is" then you would have to BE God!

Otherwise, your just wasting your time trying to figure it out.
I disagree, but I agree with your line of logic in a way. I too believe God is of a more complex understanding than we're capable of truly conceiving, but it's not a waste of time to try
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If its not a waste of time, then how do you explain those who want to achieve "enlightenment" only trying to be "one" with the universe?

...instead of trying to understand who/what/how/why/where/when God is? Anyone thats ever tried to define God in human terms hasnt gotten very far.

Dont get me wrong tho, I see where you are trying to define your own way of seeing things, and everyone has their own path, so props to ya fam for being on ur way.
For starters, who's to say that finding enlightenment isn't what we all should be doing? The truth is, it's not a waste of time because NO ONE knows for sure which path is worth our time to begin with. So no path, not even the wrong path -- toward understanding can be a waste. Look at it like this. Since the world is round, in theory you can get anywhere on this globe by "walking" in a straight line. You might have to circumnavigate this globe a thousand times but eventually you'll get there. Even if you intend to go to Cali from NY, if you start off ever so slightly N-by-NE, you'll eventually "walk" to the southwestern part of California after circling the globe an indefinite amount of times. A straight line may be the fastest route from A to B, but it's not the only one, nor is it usually the one with the most experience and knowledge to offer. You miss all the "sights" along the ride..

That's how this quest for understanding God is. No one is sure if they're walking in the right direction. But as long as you don't stop and you keep going, you WILL get there eventually. That's what faith is. and faith is NEVER a waste of time. It's all you can really cling to in this world.
Point taken. touché.
but i did happen to say props on taking your own path to get there right?
Ur faith point does make a lot of sense too..
I just cant help but wonder, if without having faith would u still be able to get "there"...
 
CallHimAR wrote:

I meant self awareness for the "current form" as you put it. While we may have experienced it, we wouldn't be able to remember.




If you experience something, like truly live through the moment and part take in its being, the would you really not be ABLE to remember it?

Or just not be able to remember it YET? ... Who's not to say you wont activate that extra ___% of your brain you dont use, and recall what it was like tobe born, be in the womb, or lets say... be conceived???
 
Originally Posted by eNPHAN

Originally Posted by bns1201

ya'll should take calc 2 and learn about infinite sums and series
no we shouldn't...you should just tell us the answer...

i'm pretty sure i'm in the ball park...it's still one unit, he's just dividing it infinitely...


an inch is a measurement which we put a name to a definite length just as a mile is and so on
if you keep on going halfway between 0 and 1 an infinite amount of times, the value of which you are cutting in half will continually get shorter and the sumwill round to a number
for example
0
.5
.25
.125
.0625
.03125
.015625
.0078125
.00390625
.001953125
.0009765625
...
an infinite amount of times
will eventually add up to 1

This notion can be applied to anything that is being measured. When talking about the ice cube, its a physical process. If ice represents 1 and nothingrepresents 0, the ice will continually go down to 0, but never reach it, because the water will evaporate and never cease to exist.

Hope this helps
 
Originally Posted by YaAintReady

CallHimAR wrote:

I meant self awareness for the "current form" as you put it. While we may have experienced it, we wouldn't be able to remember.
If you experience something, like truly live through the moment and part take in its being, the would you really not be ABLE to remember it?

Or just not be able to remember it YET? ... Who's not to say you wont activate that extra ___% of your brain you dont use, and recall what it was like to be born, be in the womb, or lets say... be conceived???


Because if all of this is a dream like I previously stated, we forget the majority of things that happen in dreams. We may remember bits andpieces, but we will end up losing everything we knew when we "wake up." What I'm saying is similar to Plato's forms idea where there are twoworlds, the one here and the one when we die. We go there and there are ideas, such as table, so when we are sent back to earth we forget much of this. Howeverlittle things may re trigger these memories, and we may be able to create something new, such as the table.
 
Originally Posted by bns1201

Originally Posted by eNPHAN

Originally Posted by bns1201

ya'll should take calc 2 and learn about infinite sums and series
no we shouldn't...you should just tell us the answer...

i'm pretty sure i'm in the ball park...it's still one unit, he's just dividing it infinitely...


an inch is a measurement which we put a name to a definite length just as a mile is and so on
if you keep on going halfway between 0 and 1 an infinite amount of times, the value of which you are cutting in half will continually get shorter and the sum will round to a number
for example
0
.5
.25
.125
.0625
.03125
.015625
.0078125
.00390625
.001953125
.0009765625
...
an infinite amount of times
will eventually add up to 1

This notion can be applied to anything that is being measured. When talking about the ice cube, its a physical process. If ice represents 1 and nothing represents 0, the ice will continually go down to 0, but never reach it, because the water will evaporate and never cease to exist.

Hope this helps

QFT!

All the matter that is existent, has always existed! nothing can ever be destroyed or created, just turned into a different form using different combination ofatoms.
 
Originally Posted by YaAintReady

Originally Posted by DearWinter219

Originally Posted by YaAintReady

Originally Posted by DearWinter219

Originally Posted by YaAintReady

Originally Posted by DearWinter219

Originally Posted by eNPHAN

how about our entire universe is one cell of one virus under some being's fingernail......?

and all germs and cells and molecules on our planet are universes as well.....

?

how about the big bang was created by an ET....who set the events in motion, but never intervened......

how would you feel if the bible's GOD refers to an ET being?
Meh... that's not too mind bottling...




What would TRULY +$#% my head up would be if God had no code of ethics. I mean, if there is a whole natural world FULL of life that exists on survivalists logic and not societal or civilized logic, what are the chances that God is really like us? What if the term "God" is just a amalgamation of the concept of Father Time and Mother Nature, both of which have no discernible higher intellect or "goal" so to speak. They are merely forces that exist to exist. What if God was one of those "forces of existense" that doesn't pick and choose -- like a hurricane or a flood? What if He is the embodiment of Chaos Theory? What if we're all just random ants in his farm with no names or recognizable differences in his eyes? What if he doesn't care because he never has and never intended to? And what if we're lucky that he doesn't care, because if he did, he'd be fed up with our lack of faith and obedience? What if the world is still spinning because God doesn't care enough to make it stop and reward the good ones?


Just some "thinkables" for whoever wants to think hard today
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You cant use human thought process, words, or ideas to define/explain God.

If God is an "omnipotent being" (even using those words are wrong, but they'll work for having to explain this) then how could you even begin to understand what its like for God to exist.

In order for you to understand anything that God "is" then you would have to BE God!

Otherwise, your just wasting your time trying to figure it out.
I disagree, but I agree with your line of logic in a way. I too believe God is of a more complex understanding than we're capable of truly conceiving, but it's not a waste of time to try
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If its not a waste of time, then how do you explain those who want to achieve "enlightenment" only trying to be "one" with the universe?

...instead of trying to understand who/what/how/why/where/when God is? Anyone thats ever tried to define God in human terms hasnt gotten very far.

Dont get me wrong tho, I see where you are trying to define your own way of seeing things, and everyone has their own path, so props to ya fam for being on ur way.
For starters, who's to say that finding enlightenment isn't what we all should be doing? The truth is, it's not a waste of time because NO ONE knows for sure which path is worth our time to begin with. So no path, not even the wrong path -- toward understanding can be a waste. Look at it like this. Since the world is round, in theory you can get anywhere on this globe by "walking" in a straight line. You might have to circumnavigate this globe a thousand times but eventually you'll get there. Even if you intend to go to Cali from NY, if you start off ever so slightly N-by-NE, you'll eventually "walk" to the southwestern part of California after circling the globe an indefinite amount of times. A straight line may be the fastest route from A to B, but it's not the only one, nor is it usually the one with the most experience and knowledge to offer. You miss all the "sights" along the ride..

That's how this quest for understanding God is. No one is sure if they're walking in the right direction. But as long as you don't stop and you keep going, you WILL get there eventually. That's what faith is. and faith is NEVER a waste of time. It's all you can really cling to in this world.
Point taken. touché.
but i did happen to say props on taking your own path to get there right?
Ur faith point does make a lot of sense too..
I just cant help but wonder, if without having faith would u still be able to get "there"...
Nope. Faith by definition is the belief in the evidence of things unseen. Without faith, you would have no fuel to keep you "walking"and if by chance you got "there" without faith, you wouldn't have the proper tools to understand your "location". The only differencebetween the beach and The Sahara to the lost, thirsty, pedestrian is what the map says. It all feels and looks the same. How would you now which part of theworld you were in if you just woke up and saw sand and nothing else? Something has to be able to tell you where you are, in order for you to know in which wayyou should travel onward. That something is faith. And faith can lead a horse to water.
 
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