Why are people so sure Babe Ruth didnt use steroids?

Originally Posted by THE GR8

man all i gotta say is....





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Originally Posted by IncredibleEv

really only 91 on the walter johnson fastball? ive heard people talk about how it was the fastest ever, i wonder how true that is.
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It was the fastest then and if he was in this era with todays medical staff, pitching coaching, mechanical adjustments it may be just effectivetoday. My point is that the players of yesteryear had it way easier than hitters today.
 
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I thought i had a case of the Fridays reading that one originally
 
i be wondering the same thing. dudes in the past had to have something in the past cause some numbers is bonkers
 
"Prior to the 1930 season in the bigs, there were no ground-rule doubles. If the ball bounced out of the park, provided the first bounce was in fair territory, then it was a home run, no questions asked."
Any idea how many HRs Ruth hit that bounced? I handful in his career...MAYBE?

I dont understand how baseball seems to be the only sport where they just decide to not seperate generations. Babe Ruth and them aint play against any black/brown players, why should I give a %%%+ about his numbers?
Worst argument ever...or are you trying to be ironic? Tired argument that doesn't pass the logic test...


That is the point of seperating generations so that you can compare players to other players of THEIR OWN GENERATION to see where they should fit in thehistorical context of the game...

There were years that Ruth was hitting more HRs than entire teams...if hitting in a league with ONLY white pitchers was so easy...why was Ruth the only onehitting the way he was?

In 1921 Ruth hit 59 HR's...the guy with the second most HR's hit 24...Ruth hit 146% more HR's than the second closest player...that would beequivalent to Bonds hitting 157 HR's in 2002...


He is CLEARLY the greatest baseball player of all-time...there is no argument that can be made to contrary...he was a HOF pitcher BEFORE he became the besthitter of all-time...

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Originally Posted by FoShizzle

Nobody even really lifted weights back then, dumb question...and if todays high-tech steroids still shrink your balls, give you acne, and mess you up in general imagine what steroids back then would of done...he would of looked like the elephant man.
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just picturing babe ruth
 
[Joker] Where does he such wonderful toys? [/Joker]
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Originally Posted by I FR3SH I

And dont give me any crap like "because they steroids were not invented yet"
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Little suspicious how dude retired with almost 200+ homers more than the next closest players of his time period (Jimmie Foxx, Mel Ott, Lou Gherig). Also pitching in 17 games (12 of them complete) the same season he drives in 114 runs
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thank you... seriously thank you. people are so blind and ignorant that they can't fathom steroids andother drugs WERE used before the 90's. there's no debating it folks, PED's have been around for decades, the Bash Brothers weren't the first touse em in the League... It's really a shame that today's players have to shoulder all the blame because they've been caught. How bout we justassume that 80% of players used (according to some MLB players) and just move on... *wishful thinking*






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I think its a little unfair to say everyone used PED's, I mean....the "anonymous list" that we all want to see only has 100+ players and thereare 30 teams with 40-man rosters (which equals 1200 players not counting the minors). That is only about 12%.

Is the sport dirty yeah...but to say 80% of the players is a bit too drastic.

I'm just saying.
 
Originally Posted by Mez 0ne

I think its a little unfair to say everyone used PED's, I mean....the "anonymous list" that we all want to see only has 100+ players and there are 30 teams with 40-man rosters (which equals 1200 players not counting the minors). That is only about 12%.

Is the sport dirty yeah...but to say 80% of the players is a bit too drastic.

I'm just saying.
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I mean, 80% might be a bit much, but that's straight from the horses mouth. I'll gladly turn thisinto an all out charade of who used/who didn't use since people wanna assume their favorite players are above suspicion. My boy has been Junior since I waslike 6 years old, clipping box scores and stories out the newspaper and magazines daily, I was OBSESSED with him as a kid (20 now). People say "if anybodydidn't use, it'd be him". Reality check, folks. Word for word, that's what was said about Palmeiro...
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Icouldn't care less who's guilty of using; I feel like it was essentially a level playing field (excuse the pun) since both pitchers and hitters wereusing. But again, to crucify modern players (the notion that even dudes like Rob Deer, Dave Parker, Gorman Thomas, etc, etc, etc, from the 70's weren'tusing is ludacrous) And to those saying Ruth or anybody else couldn't have used "cuz they're fat", you're a big fat dummie...
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Just ask Mo Vaughn who just recently got caught up by the George Mitchell investigation...

Side note: What about Dock Ellis' no-hitter on acid?
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Originally Posted by KB8sandiego

A lot of people saying baseball is wack because there are cheaters.

LOL.

I'm sure football is steroid free.
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EXACTLY.

Baseball has PEDs, football has DUI, DWI, FBI and ATF.

Pick your poison
 
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@ yall keep saying he was fat. Having a slower metabolism coulda been a result of whatever he was taking

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Doesnt look fat here...
 
There is no way of knowing, and I'm going to say I doubt it because if the incurable optimist in me. The earliest I remember ball players sayingSteroids/PED's came around was in the 70's, which is when it started to get pushed into pro sports. Can't say anything about earlier generations.
 
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There is no way of knowing, and I'm going to say I doubt it because if the incurable optimist in me. The earliest I remember ball players saying Steroids/PED's came around was in the 70's, which is when it started to get pushed into pro sports. Can't say anything about earlier generations.
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"In 1954, a physician named John Ziegler attended the World Weightlifting Championships in Vienna,Austria, as the team's doctor. The Soviets dominated the competition that year, easily breaking several world records and winning gold medals in legions ofweight classes. According to anecdotal reports, Ziegler invited the Soviet´s team doctor to a bar and the doctor told him that that his lifters had usedtestosterone injections as part of their training programs. Whether that story is true or not, ultimately, the Americans returned from the World Championshipsthat year and immediately began their efforts to defeat the Soviets using pharmaceutical enhancement."




M!ke
 
Really though, weight lifting and baseball cannot be compared and shared under the same microscope when it comes to steroids. Weight lifters obviously thoughtit more beneficial to what they did than baseball players. And I'm certain that baseball players didn't get exposed, at least mainstream, to the ideaof using steroids/PED's until the 70's. Weight lifting and baseball...Completely different.
 
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