real talk: why do black athletes go with white girls ??

Originally Posted by Id Walk a Mile for a Camel

I can't imagine being a black female and reading through all 30+ pages of this thread.

I'd want to punch someone.
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after awhile you get used to and just roll your eyes and suck your teeth...
 
Originally Posted by HarlemKickDiva

Originally Posted by p0tat0 5alad

Originally Posted by HarlemKickDiva

I understand all girls aren't saints. But like I have said in this thread I have had guys tell me "I look like too much work" So you're telling me that had I just let you use me at your discretion then you'd want to get to know me? That's unaccceptable. And idc if I'm called w/e name under the sun my morals are in tact and I know what's really good.

I am from hood, hell I still live here. And you know what?Ya'll dudes (general statement) aren't that stupid. You know who these girls are when you start talking to them. You know the girl will argue with you, you know she's a hoodrat, but you don't care because some of you think bomb @ss sex is worth it. And quite frankly alot of men in this thread are full of it because ya'll don't even realize you are subconsciously attracted to that in which you are complaining about....
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This isn't adding up.
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Talk to me what's not adding up?
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You give guys the benefit of the doubt that for the most part, can feel a chick out (no pun intended) before they get to know said chick. But whena dude said you seemed like you were too much work, you got upset. And I could understand if this was just one dude but you said guys so more than one dudepicked up this vibe. The dudes were giving their honest opinion which is a trait that females are supposed to like. To me it just didn't match up with howyou said you were earlier but then again I could be reaching or it could just be a dude that wants to smash.


And the subconscious comment, I think that is strictly for as you said, bomb @$% sex. I don't think dudes are subconsciously attracted to people thatdon't respect them or a hoodrat. They are just willing to go through the everyday struggle of having to deal with that person to either a) Have somebody orb) Have some bomb @$% sex

Thats what it all boils down to
 
So who took this thing to youtube?


not all white women are weak as you think we are some of us are just as independent. as you black women are and we can stand on our own two feet just as well as you black women can but the black women hate seening white women with brother's that's all hater's

chefiya (1 week ago)

White women arent weak at all, they just fake the funk to make brothas think they are angels, thats why they be chasing those ball players because they smart as hell.. act dumb and milk him for all he's worth. They fall for it everytime!!


vulture2fly123 (1 week ago)

not really,black women need to calm down with, that all men are the same cause your missing out on a lot of good men because of the bad men you choose,trust me, black men go after a white women because they except them for who they are and they dont try to change them or treat them like one of ther children,and this is comming from a black man black women are to demanding its nothing about playing him for his money cause a prenub will be signed whenever and whoever i marry if i

morena1019 (1 week ago)

i disagree. all women are different and guys just have to face it. just cause one black woman is like that don't mean all of em are. i think that in a relationship a man and a woman should both show that they need and love eachother. sry if sometimes y'all be feelin insecure just bc a black woman is independent. what, should we be needin you guys all the time?! no!

dking2ushawty21 (1 week ago)

OK, i think we all have common sense about women who are the exception to the rule. black women are judged that way because the majority of them act like that. %+%+%% is making songs about it now. Please dont think a #%*!% would ever feel insecure of a lady...we just go get another one you clearly didnt understand what i said the 1st time. im not sayin for you to be needy cause i HATE needy BUT stop actin like you can live without me if we supposed to be in love. stop tryna leave everytime


chefiya (2 weeks ago)

Stop making excuses and BE MEN, Yall complain when we are independant and complain when we arent, Its a problem if we are too weak and if we are too strong.. Stop making excuses and find yaselves. Be more of a man instead of spending so much time looking like one on the outside learn how to be one on the inside
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morena1019 (1 week ago)

girl, you spoke the plain truth!
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i congratulate you puttin that on here.
a real man won't feel insecure over a strong woman and a real man won't have to complain all the time and play games.
 
Originally Posted by shortydoowopp


So who took this thing to youtube?

chefiya (2 weeks ago)

Stop making excuses and BE MEN, Yall complain when we are independent and complain when we arent, Its a problem if we are too weak and if we are too strong.. Stop making excuses and find yaselves. Be more of a man instead of spending so much time looking like one on the outside learn how to be one on the inside
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Idk....but her whole independence point is dead on
 
Originally Posted by Capricorn1229

Originally Posted by OptimusPrimeAPhiA

Originally Posted by Sixfoot nathan

wow.. i just had to come in and co-sign most of the stuff i read here
i'm in an interracial relationship with a black girl from the west indies, who's only been in north america for less than 10 years and hasnt been much influenced by some of the situations that were mentioned before. Although it seems that many of her friends are also single mothers, unwed,etc. even at older ages and it seems to be the norm.
i dont know her full dating history and if they've all seemed to be losers.. but i doubt it. the reason for the failed relationships.. who knows if what she says is the truth or not
everything i ask her she denies off bat.. and not just when it comes to serious talks, even daily conversation she acts like im interogating her and she will be convicted if she agrees with something thats being asked

i dont have much experience with black women (only been with 2) but i'd have to say that all the conceived notions of upset black women pertaining to men in general .. not just black men.. are on point. i also share the same feelings as a 'tired black man'

i'm expected to drop everything im doing to cater to her ALL THE TIME, and reciprication needs to be petitioned for before it is even considered

there's too much stuff to rant about.. so i'll just keep reading and learn from my mistakes
although i love the good side of her, im disgusted by the rest.. screw face,teeth sucking,slick talk,irrelevant excuses, and lack of personal well being
i respect a woman with an opinion, but i cannot respect someone who does not express it with respect for another
this is definitely helping me with some closure to a relationship lost
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In an effort to not turn this into an ANTI black women post...we should note that NOT EVERYONE is like this...

But to the NT females who feel we're talking to them, don't get gassed up and take this personally...but we all can't be lying about feeling the same way...

There is a pervasive lack of respect...and a lack of reciprocity...but we still love ya'll...

...but why ya'll gotta make it so hard? Or is chivalry truly dead and we want 50/50 in the world...
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It's too late for that. What else don't you like about black women again? AND you don't love us because if you did you would have stopped and known that this is just the beginning so now it is what it is and the line has been drawn.

Note to the black men in here because clearly I wonder now who all is black: When you have your black daughters with whoever get ready for this kind of downing on the regular. Hopefully she can speak for herself and is strong(I know yall HATE THAT WORD) enough to take this BUT wait some of you in here will want her to submit to this kind of bashing just b/c somebody in your past #@$! on you...I forgot.
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I mean it goes both ways guys....

There's someone in this thread who has posted making a joke about the lack of goog black women in his age group....

He also gets serious and asks "how can we uplift our black women yada yada"

Yet he made a thread about having 2 girlfriends, girls, JOs or whatever....

But really? You want respect and understanding...

Yet you decide to be triffling and date multiple females at the same time? Where's the respect there?
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That's what I'm saying. No respect at all but that's how he likes em and picks them I guess. He doesn't have to come correct he just has to lay pipe correctly. He knows his role there.



Whats too late? I said taht its a forum for us to speak not bash. If youre taking this personally you mighthave some self discovery to accomplish.
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Wow...this isn't aboutsex....and you sound mad salty right now when thats my point exactly... If I have a problem with the way only black women have treated MYSELF and MY FRIENDSwho are just as you say you want COLLEGE EDUCATED (a big misnomer in itself...just cause you go to college doesn't mean you bettered yourself so stop usingthat triffling @&$ remark) and modest and "Refined" (another term ya'll like to throw around because ya'll act too good to beyourselves). My appreciation for "ya'll" isn't that I'm obligated to you, its that I'm obligated to show love to all women, (andi'm probably the person with the least game possible. I'm just not a womanizer like that...just not who I am). You have it all messed up making it seemlike because I have a problem with what you do, that its your position to get all angry...no...its a realization that we're not always the ones atfault...your response only reinforces themes recently stated here...ya'll are biased and somewhat unwilling to help us progress this convo...thatHarlemKickDiva is actually takign the time to see where dudes are coming from and making comments about how she sees the world while accepting ours. You'retreating it like its an attack when its really a way for people to talk about their experience. Learn to lighten up more often. Blowing up like that isn't"strong" or "empowering" its...weak...and self centered. To say that I can't make a comment or relate to an experience I've had(AFTER SAYING THAT IT DOESNT RELATE TO EVERYONE ) and then for you to take it so personally clearly proves my point.

See this is the kind of bull I wanted to avoid...like why are you evening saying this?Who's black? Thats the most ignorant thing on here for real... Whats worse is that you think someone would actually comment on an experience theyhaven't had... Instead of you trying to hope your daughter is "strong" why don't you hope that shes a realist who will accept her faults andlearn to view this world more equally instead of with her hand out. I'm not telling her to settle on the most run of the mill cat with nothing to offer,but I do hope that she is willing to accept criticism and be told about herself when things that she does aren't acceptable. Whats worse is that youdon't see this as us expressing ourselves. You see it as an attack which is frankly your problem alone. God forbid you actually wanted to complain about usfor something and hopefully being the man that you would want in life, we would listen to you and even more so try to change that indesirable trait about us.But it seems that you aren't capable of looking at yourself sometimes even when it doesn't relate to you. I'm sure dudes in here can relate to whentheir girl bites them and how in the wrong they were off but why can't you? is that too much to ask for? Without calling people's"blackness" out? Why are you so damn righteous anyways? Blackness? Thats the problem. Don't bring ethnicity into this. Bring class and qualityand all those other self pronouced qualities that you claim to have mastered in..."college"...
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Clearly you have some issues you need to address...because I said that these things don't apply toEVERYONE...and nothing ever will apply to everyone. But that whole "sexual" context of your statement only proves that you think men view you assexual objects...when yu know that not all men do...and if thats the attitude youre going to have...fine. But don't be mad when honest dudes are in heretelling you how much they care about their significant others and all the stuff they put up with...just because ya'll apply these views to everyone...Gohate on the guy who's being a hypocrite...but dont come in here with that mess trying to make a point cause you know thats not what this forum is about.We're talking maturity here. That point? The opposite of that. You're just sounding mad salty really... If you want to keep living like nothing willever come your way, I guess nothing will... You also made the point earlier that we're bashing becasue of negative experiences that we've had...fromwhat i've seen, most of the guys here are still in relationships...this isn't about that though...its honest guys going through honest problems that doexist and you're refusing to admit. Stop asking for respect if yall aren't willing to give it to that guy who gives you all that he can.

Clearly I rambled but I had to get that out because its A. Late and B. that crap justpissed me off too much to care to write properly...hopefully you get something out of that.
 
Yall can keep loving these types of chicks nad putting up with that behavior...

i'd rather be single and celibate (God Honest truth) than to be with 3 chcks who do that type of %@@. Especially someone like me with a short fuse andhairtrigger on dropping chicks.

Since me and my ex broke up last year, i dated about 6 females. i'm only in touch with one of them. Ya'll seen my posts so take it how you want it.
Yet you decide to be triffling and date multiple females at the same time? Where's the respect there?
I'm sorry...but Flex talked about this...it aint the old days when our parents came up and you dated someone and knew what time it was...samething about my example of my lifestyle above...you gotta constantly date people in order to find the right one. Experience is the best teacher...especially inthe field, I'm in...i rarely talk to any chick in my industry. There's no disrespect in letting a dude know what time it is and that you're seeingother people because if he was smart he'd already assume that. Same thing I tell females: "I'm not looking for a relationship but if it happens ithappens. We'll take things how they come, but I'm extremely busy and I'm also talking to other people". See! It's all funky andthere's no harm because I'm upfront. She has the freedom to choose and (try to) change my mind which often leads to them hating my guts...#!%backwardsly because I told em what time it is and they subconsciously hate themselves for failing...I'll give it up to females...ya'll know come upwhen you see one...whew..not to sound like Goldie..but the BADDEST chick I ever been with used to talk this whle game about wanting a dude to support her andall this +#$ about me falling in love with her...I dropped that chick like a bad pass. Just because I could. I really cut losses early.

It's business people. Chess, not checkers.
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Originally Posted by blackmagnus514

I'll give it up to females...ya'll know come up when you see one...whew..not to sound like Goldie..but the BADDEST chick I ever been with used to talk this whle game about wanting a dude to support her and all this +#$ about me falling in love with her...I dropped that chick like a bad pass. Just because I could. I really cut losses early.

It's business people. Chess, not checkers.
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What exactly do you do?

I read your blog but I still am kinda...lost? ll

but on that quote... I feel you man...you can't be too careful...once that heart gets broke beacuse you've given your all only cause some dude who hadthe APPEARANCE of having it all messed her up or she had these false expectations...you can't go all in anymore...
 
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Chicks see the FB albums and think it's something sweet. Me and women in finanace get along great. They're not clingy, independent and always busy.ifind that so sexy in a woman.
 
Originally Posted by shortydoowopp

Originally Posted by HarlemKickDiva

I mean it goes both ways guys....

There's someone in this thread who has posted making a joke about the lack of goog black women in his age group....

He also gets serious and asks "how can we uplift our black women yada yada"

Yet he made a thread about having 2 girlfriends, girls, JOs or whatever....

But really? You want respect and understanding...

Yet you decide to be triffling and date multiple females at the same time? Where's the respect there?
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notice they were both white girls tho...
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he knows a sista would have his $#+% cut up on the lawn waiting for him when he got back from Cali...
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that was a joke...kinda
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i'm just trying to do what the white man has done to my people for 400 years...

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Originally Posted by shortydoowopp

Originally Posted by OptimusPrimeAPhiA



...but why ya'll gotta make it so hard? Or is chivalry truly dead and we want 50/50 in the world...


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i think alot of black women are on the defensive from jump...just watching people and how they act you think to yourself..."he's not about to play me" or whatever...so you have this guard up and for alot of women that becomes who they are...

there's more but i'm not about to type and essay...
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And this has been too common too...but I attribute that to the copious amount of "thirst" in a lot of black men these days.

Also, Ms. shortydoowopp...you don't have to type an essay but you can still share more of your statement---this is a perfect opportunity to express andcontribute to our problem as a Black community---I would like to hear more from the women too.

And like AphiA said, this isn't a anti-black women post, by no means at all. This is a problem that exists in the Black community as a whole---both men andwomen.

I will share more my thoughts later on....
 
Originally Posted by shortydoowopp

Originally Posted by OptimusPrimeAPhiA



...but why ya'll gotta make it so hard? Or is chivalry truly dead and we want 50/50 in the world...


OP CHANGE THE TITLE OF THE TOPIC...we on some whole other tip right now...
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i think alot of black women are on the defensive from jump...just watching people and how they act you think to yourself..."he's not about to play me" or whatever...so you have this guard up and for alot of women that becomes who they are...

there's more but i'm not about to type and essay...
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basically what i've said the past three pages...

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^^^Just a discussion about the lack of respect within the Black community and its effect and impact in socierty, more specifically in dating and relationships.


You have any comments or anything you like to "opinionate" with us?

I really want to get at the issue of the lack of respect within the community, I promise I will share my thoughts when I get off work.
 
Damn i wish i had a computer so i could participate in this thread... but all i got is my phone so ill do a lil mini response...

People always talk about how black women always have to be on the defensive because they are always being talked bad about... they always have to have theirguard up & be so "strong & independent"...

But lets realize that black women talk bad about black men just as much... but do you see black men getting all defensive & trying to make it overlydifficult for men to get to know them...

And to all the people who talked about the lack of respect that black women show men... that is the complete truth...

And i hope people don't blame BWs lack of respect on not having a father...

Also the biggest thing i agreed with... was the person who said that black womens problems start with their mothers telling them to find a man that will takecare of them... as opposed to finding a man who respects you, is honest, loving, caring, & all other qualities of a good man...
 
^that's the biggest complaint I have with the way a lotta these moms raise their daughters...

these ladies grow up with this false sense of entitlement...

I done dated and seen it first hand. Flex talked about it too. There's nothing that says "Love, honor, obey your man when you find one worthy ofit". it's more like "Find a baller and get with him"....and if you know em like I do...ballers have women all over the place
 
Originally Posted by Thugnificence

Damn i wish i had a computer so i could participate in this thread... but all i got is my phone so ill do a lil mini response...

People always talk about how black women always have to be on the defensive because they are always being talked bad about... they always have to have their guard up & be so "strong & independent"...

But lets realize that black women talk bad about black men just as much... but do you see black men getting all defensive & trying to make it overly difficult for men to get to know them...

And to all the people who talked about the lack of respect that black women show men... that is the complete truth...

And i hope people don't blame BWs lack of respect on not having a father...

Also the biggest thing i agreed with... was the person who said that black womens problems start with their mothers telling them to find a man that will take care of them... as opposed to finding a man who respects you, is honest, loving, caring, & all other qualities of a good man...
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what's more to blame than that?

what examples of positive relationships do females (and hell, males too) have if their father is not around?

how are they (we) supposed to learn how to act in a relationship without that example?

some mothers may still feel some certain kind of way if the father is not around and that may (usually) transfers to their daughters.

men as much to blame as women. the chicks I mess with that have parents still married (or hell even stepparents or some kind of close father figure) are*generally* less nuts in my dealings.
 
^^ magnus thas tha exact @#$* I'm talkin about...

These mothers are telling these young women the complete wrong things in order to be happy with a man...

Half these woman don't know how to act when they get a good man in their lives...

Its just ridiculous how ignorant some of these women are in terms of how to maintain a relationship & how it is supposed to go...
 
Originally Posted by Thugnificence

Damn i wish i had a computer so i could participate in this thread... but all i got is my phone so ill do a lil mini response...

People always talk about how black women always have to be on the defensive because they are always being talked bad about... they always have to have their guard up & be so "strong & independent"...

But lets realize that black women talk bad about black men just as much... but do you see black men getting all defensive & trying to make it overly difficult for men to get to know them...

And to all the people who talked about the lack of respect that black women show men... that is the complete truth...

And i hope people don't blame BWs lack of respect on not having a father...

Also the biggest thing i agreed with... was the person who said that black womens problems start with their mothers telling them to find a man that will take care of them... as opposed to finding a man who respects you, is honest, loving, caring, & all other qualities of a good man...
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*Looks around post* Nah you never see that, black dudes don't be saying nothing negative about black women.
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This #!@# is getting comical at this point.
 
Originally Posted by airmissionretro

Originally Posted by shortydoowopp

Originally Posted by OptimusPrimeAPhiA



...but why ya'll gotta make it so hard? Or is chivalry truly dead and we want 50/50 in the world...


OP CHANGE THE TITLE OF THE TOPIC...we on some whole other tip right now...
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i think alot of black women are on the defensive from jump...just watching people and how they act you think to yourself..."he's not about to play me" or whatever...so you have this guard up and for alot of women that becomes who they are...

there's more but i'm not about to type and essay...
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And this has been too common too...but I attribute that to the copious amount of "thirst" in a lot of black men these days.

Also, Ms. shortydoowopp...you don't have to type an essay but you can still share more of your statement---this is a perfect opportunity to express and contribute to our problem as a Black community---I would like to hear more from the women too.

And like AphiA said, this isn't a anti-black women post, by no means at all. This is a problem that exists in the Black community as a whole---both men and women.

I will share more my thoughts later on....
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Like Black already said...black women are maybe to loyal to black men...the same way alot of men have this idea that all women are JO's or whatever womenhave the same ideas about men gettin it in with multiple women...so you're first thought when a guy approaches you is 'he just wants the P'...andof course no one wants to get played...

then on the other hand you have this ride or die mentality...stupid songs about holding his cash or hidin the drugs when the cops come through...some men andwomen think that stuff it cute and so they end up messin with people they had no business with in the first place...that had nothing to do with respect butmore people makin bad choices in mates...

there's more but my thoughts were more clear last night...i just got off work
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but do you see black men getting all defensive & trying to make it overly difficult for men to get to know them
lies...if a thread was started but ended up going in this same direction about BM there would be pages and pages about slavery,racism, COINTELPRO and anything else you can think of to explain why BM are where alot of them are today...but when it comes to women we're just suppose toknow how to diagnos the problem when no one wants to look at how it got this way the only one who came close was airmissionretro (who i'm developing an e-crush on
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And i hope people don't blame BWs lack of respect on not having a father...



if not that than what? BW are just born disrespectful? A father is KEY in any childs development...for different reasons but he is needed equally by bothsexes...ya'll need to tell some of your boys to step up...and some of these ladies need to chill...

was the person who said that black womens problems start with their mothers telling them to find a man that will take care of them... as opposed to finding a man who respects you, is honest, loving, caring, & all other qualities of a good man...
trust and believe thats not a black thing...its more a woman thing...
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Yeah I also find some of comments people have made on here quite amuzing too.....


You all should check out Tariq's podcast on "valuing yourself as a man" ....

Deep stuff.
 
Aiite when i said black men aren't all defensive... i mean thwey don't permanently have their guard up & they don't run around not giving anyblack women a chance because of the things that are said...

But i still don't see how you can blame the lack of a father for the lack of respect shown by black women in general...

So the mother just has no role in the childs life apparently... if the girl doesn't treat anybody with respect... how can you blame that on the lack of afather... her mother can do nothing to instill respect in the child...

Come on now... the fact that a lot of black men aren't there as father is a huge problem, but you can't ust it as a justification for everything.

But this has become a pretty good discussion after the nonsense in the beginning...
 
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