Originally Posted by shoeking2101
30K?Originally Posted by Ace Rawstein
i wanna agree but what kind of surprise are you talking? 100-125k first week would be surprising and shocking to alot of people if u ask me.
Im thinking 50-80k are reasonable expectations.
I mean if Ace Hood can do 30k, Im sure Cole can clear that easy.
yeah cole is doing more than that for sure.
I'm thinking he's going to do at least 100K.
This is all good from a fan's point of view but it's selfish. Fans should want their fav artists to sell well (which includes them purchasing their albums as well) because if they don't it'll be even harder for that artist to release their next album and if it does drop it'll have even more of a commercial influence forced by the label so that they make their money back. Then the artist eventually gets dropped or worse shelved and is regulated to dropping mixtapes indefinitely.
I agree with what @OrenthalJames is sayin'. Has been 0-2 with his singles. he jus' needs to put out a hard/lyrical track and see where it takes him.Originally Posted by Ace Rawstein
Originally Posted by 0renthalJames
.B.o.B is LOVED by the white community. He had 2 big singles and white girls love him. He went gold. And he is doing an all Asian tour, he is doing just fine in his nicheOriginally Posted by Ace Rawstein
what u meant to say was J. Cole is not Pop(ular) with white teen demographic.
B.o.B. had no buzz sold, 87K
Big Sean own buzz isnt bigger than Cole's but he sold 87K
Tyler the Creator buzz got him 50K, n 3/4 of black twitter never heard of him to MTV awards last week.
White kids buying yo album is not equal buzz.
Lil Wayne bout to pull a mill on Carter 4 and sum would say he aint have no buzz for his album
Big Sean got zero support from Kanye (Ye showed more love to Yonkers than any Big Sean track post "Get'cha some") and zero marketing. My Last is a big single but most ppl believe it's a Chris Brown cut. Although I was surprised he didn't do better, year is not over though.
Tyler the Creator put out his album too fast in order to capitalize on his buzz. He had a strong internet buzz but he seriously should have waited and built up anticipation more. Heard about dude and his crew in March, son put out an album May. Not enough time.
Lil Wayne doesn't need buzz at this point
White kids buying your album when you have buzz helps quite a bit. J. Cole has no successful single, and Any Given Sundays have no buzz. What will help him though is his affiliation with Jay. Jay is going to make sure his album is shipped and stocked in all markets instead of submarined like Wale's
-The Juice
I hear what u saying but I dont equate that to Buzz, especially in the case of the 3 acts I mentioned.
I mean in hip-hop, i dont feel like those ppl are checked for, discussed, anticipated, stanned, hated like Cole...thats on and off the internet. They are in fact in the spotlight more than Cole but i dunno if i wud sayn "buzzin" but ayy maybe im wrong.
Like gucci mane and flocka have buzz, but their sales wont reflect that. Big Sean sales and single performance will reflect buzz but thats really off the strength of his songs being featured by Chris Brown and Kanye and their contributions being the draw to the records.
I agree with you on the Jay thing. n yes having the white crowd checkin for you will definitely improve ur sales but Cole doesn't appeal to that overall audience
It was never a ACTUAL single, it had a cheap little video n everything, but it was never technically a single. Cole even said in a interview he tried to get the label to push it as a single, but they wasnt with it...idiots.
I agree with what @OrenthalJames is sayin'. Has been 0-2 with his singles. he jus' needs to put out a hard/lyrical track and see where it takes him.
