Stay/Get Back In Shape.... Vol 2.0

Originally Posted by DAYTONA 5000

Lately it's been difficult for me to do squats because I feel like an ache sort of near the front of my hips.
I maintain proper technique and everything and this aching just came out of nowhere. It only happens during my
warmup and my first set. That ever happen to anyone?


Yes. Never was sure what it was. Just pushed through. For awhile I was scared it was a hernia.
 
man, i wanna do keto so bad. just so hard for me to eat no carbs. im a picky eater
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what you guys eating???
 
Originally Posted by nealraj006

Originally Posted by brettTHEjett

Squats, dead lifts, pull ups are all you need for abs.
Havent done an ab exercise in almost 8 months.

Feels so liberating building my abs without flopping around like a fish on those mats 
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Come on brett, you should know better than that. The only thing you need for abs is a change in diet. Abs have many functions just from stabilizing the body. The strength to support yourself under a heavy bar is useful, but other strength is very useful such as front lever training, hanging leg raise(toes to bar), dragon flags, etc.

Joe, there are some very useful supplements out there that are more effective than you would think.

Abs are just like any other muscle. If you're sub 10% and want to increase the size of abs you still need to put them under tension.
The point is, I see really fit people doing stupid high rep ab exercises and it's less effective than the shake weight. 
 
Originally Posted by RJSims

Anyone try the animal M-stak or the regular animal pak or any?

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might give the M-stak a try once this semester gets going (will have gym access 24/7 unlike now)
 
Originally Posted by Zyzz

man, i wanna do keto so bad. just so hard for me to eat no carbs. im a picky eater
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what you guys eating???


Chicken nuggets, turkey burger patties, egg whites, tuna, cheese, light ranch dressing, nuts.Ill mix the nuggets, turkey patties and some cheese or just the light ranch lol
 
Originally Posted by brettTHEjett

Originally Posted by nealraj006

Originally Posted by brettTHEjett

Squats, dead lifts, pull ups are all you need for abs.
Havent done an ab exercise in almost 8 months.

Feels so liberating building my abs without flopping around like a fish on those mats 
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Come on brett, you should know better than that. The only thing you need for abs is a change in diet. Abs have many functions just from stabilizing the body. The strength to support yourself under a heavy bar is useful, but other strength is very useful such as front lever training, hanging leg raise(toes to bar), dragon flags, etc.

Joe, there are some very useful supplements out there that are more effective than you would think.
Abs are just like any other muscle. If you're sub 10% and want to increase the size of abs you still need to put them under tension.
The point is, I see really fit people doing stupid high rep ab exercises and it's less effective than the shake weight. 
People that say abs are just based on diet... I mean I don't want to look like the really skinny people where you can see their abs very well defined but they also have their rib cage showing and stuff
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And where the the concept of high rep ab training come from? I mean for every other muscle group it's lower reps (less than 8 or so) for maximum stimulation, yet you have people doing abs for 30 or so reps
 
Originally Posted by Xavier

aight my legs are lacking what are some of the routines/exercises yall do?

Look into the 20 rep squat program. Not the best routine for strength obviously (look into smolov for that), but I ran that a while back and my legs exploded. 
Just be aware that if you are doing it right it will test your manhood 
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Originally Posted by scshift

Originally Posted by brettTHEjett

Originally Posted by nealraj006

Come on brett, you should know better than that. The only thing you need for abs is a change in diet. Abs have many functions just from stabilizing the body. The strength to support yourself under a heavy bar is useful, but other strength is very useful such as front lever training, hanging leg raise(toes to bar), dragon flags, etc.

Joe, there are some very useful supplements out there that are more effective than you would think.
Abs are just like any other muscle. If you're sub 10% and want to increase the size of abs you still need to put them under tension.
The point is, I see really fit people doing stupid high rep ab exercises and it's less effective than the shake weight. 
People that say abs are just based on diet... I mean I don't want to look like the really skinny people where you can see their abs very well defined but they also have their rib cage showing and stuff
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And where the the concept of high rep ab training come from? I mean for every other muscle group it's lower reps (less than 8 or so) for maximum stimulation, yet you have people doing abs for 30 or so reps
I PERSONALLY treat my abdominals like the rest of my muscle groups, pretty much; weights and BW workouts. I don't over power them with HIGH reps or going until failure. Just get that burn going, feels good mate. 
Yes if you TO SEE your abs, it is all about diet. You can hit them with decline crunches, cable crunches, hanging leg lifts, etc... but if your BF is not low enough, you will have nothing to show for it. and IF you want good looking abs, obliques, ''riblets'', etc.. you are going to want to hit them like your other muscles. 

Do not over work them, just like you do not want to over work your chest or legs or back. Hit them hard, Rest them. Break the muscle down, Rebuild it back up, and repeat.

Just my $0.02.

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Amino Energy supp question... the guy at gnc said to me that through out the day he drinks a gallon of Amino Energy.. i thought the directions is for 12 oz of water? Does this

mean the more water you have it just makes the flavor less? is it ok to just put 2 scoops and alot of water in one container?


how is Jack3d compared to this for those taken it??
 
Originally Posted by jorrdanfan23

Amino Energy supp question... the guy at gnc said to me that through out the day he drinks a gallon of Amino Energy.. i thought the directions is for 12 oz of water? Does this

mean the more water you have it just makes the flavor less? is it ok to just put 2 scoops and alot of water in one container?


how is Jack3d compared to this for those taken it??
Can not help you on Amino Energy, but for Jack3d.. i took it as recommended and i could feel it working very well. I also tried taking more than recommended, say if i was going to hoop a little before working out or having a longer workout day, and i would feel as if my face was tingling lol
I would always follow the recommended instructions unless you know other wise, IMO
 
Ive been using Anadraulic State GT instead of Jack3d and I think its awesome. Try looking up review of both because Ive heard a lot of people say they prefer ASGT. You dont feel it as much the first couple times you use it, but then its as if the effects get stronger instead of fading. I love it.
 
^^ just looked it up. Amino Energy has amino acids (5g) of it. He probably drinks a total of 1 gal a day, i know with LeanGains protein(AAs) is important, and he probably also uses it for the energy that it also provides. Jack3d is a NO supp which increases blood flow all around the body, No AAs in this.

LMK if this also helped.
EDIT: i would go with Amino Energy, by the looks of ingredients, and being on LeanGains myself. The 5grams of AAs is something i could use. an all-in-one (AAs+energy) compared to taking 2 things instead of one. 
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Originally Posted by brettTHEjett

Just a heads up for anyone lurkin or otherwise who is relatively new.

Went from $200++ on supps per month to absolutely no supps and I have progressed the same. The importance of eating real food is the single biggest contributing factor to any goal you are trying to reach. When you figure out your macros and you have 175g or whatever of protein, make sure that's ALL from food. if you seriously feel the need to go beyond that then feel free but you'll find the cost benefit to food is substantial in itself.

jack3d or a large black coffee for a pre workout? coffee.
three scoops whey and three scoops sugar post workout or chicken with rice or sweet potatoes? you get the picture
$200 a month on supplements? That's just OD.
And obviously, real food is better than supplements, but not everyone has the money/time to eat that much real food per day. I buy a $40 tub of protein and go through one about every 1.5 months, and that works great for me.

It's not practical AT ALL for me to get 200 grams of protein per day from real food. Either I would have to spend more time than I can afford cooking, or spend more money than I can afford buying food outside. 

It's not always as clear cut as you make it seem.
 
Originally Posted by scshift

People that say abs are just based on diet... I mean I don't want to look like the really skinny people where you can see their abs very well defined but they also have their rib cage showing and stuff
30t6p3b.gif


And where the the concept of high rep ab training come from? I mean for every other muscle group it's lower reps (less than 8 or so) for maximum stimulation, yet you have people doing abs for 30 or so reps

Charles Poliquin goes over this well in his book "The Poliquin Principles". A great book that all trainees should read. Basically here's what it says: you train a muscle based on its fiber make up. You train predominantly slow twitch muscles with different rep schemes, tempos, etc. than you would train fast twitch muscles. But the idea that doing 50+ reps for abdominal training is incorrect at best and harmful at worst. It is not as productive as working with lower reps.
 
Originally Posted by PersiaFly

Originally Posted by brettTHEjett

Just a heads up for anyone lurkin or otherwise who is relatively new.

Went from $200++ on supps per month to absolutely no supps and I have progressed the same. The importance of eating real food is the single biggest contributing factor to any goal you are trying to reach. When you figure out your macros and you have 175g or whatever of protein, make sure that's ALL from food. if you seriously feel the need to go beyond that then feel free but you'll find the cost benefit to food is substantial in itself.

jack3d or a large black coffee for a pre workout? coffee.
three scoops whey and three scoops sugar post workout or chicken with rice or sweet potatoes? you get the picture
$200 a month on supplements? That's just OD.
And obviously, real food is better than supplements, but not everyone has the money/time to eat that much real food per day. I buy a $40 tub of protein and go through one about every 1.5 months, and that works great for me.

It's not practical AT ALL for me to get 200 grams of protein per day from real food. Either I would have to spend more time than I can afford cooking, or spend more money than I can afford buying food outside. 

It's not always as clear cut as you make it seem.

Unless someone weighed over 300lbs lean I don't see why you would need 200 grams in protein per day. 
You don't need that much protein. 1 -1.2 per kilo of body weight is sufficient.  I've hovered around 185 for years now and I've never got close to even 150 grams per day. 
 
^I think that all depends on your goals. If you are happy hovering at 185 for years then maybe 150g of protein a day is sufficient to maintain the mass you got. I on the other hand am looking to add muscle not stay the same weight for years. If thats your goal I think 1 gram per lb should be the minimum. I myself go as high as 2 grams per lb
 
Originally Posted by alhubley

^I think that all depends on your goals. If you are happy hovering at 185 for years then maybe 150g of protein a day is sufficient to maintain the mass you got. I on the other hand am looking to add muscle not stay the same weight for years. If thats your goal I think 1 gram per lb should be the minimum. I myself go as high as 2 grams per lb

2 grams per LB?

Thats more than twice the highest recommended amount advised. 
 
Whatever your protein goal may be, the point is that it's difficult to get a large amount through natural foods. If you have a full time job or are even a busy student you're lucky to be able to sit down for 2 solid, well rounded meals per day, let alone the 4 or 5 necessary to get that much protein.
 
Originally Posted by Durden7

Originally Posted by alhubley

^I think that all depends on your goals. If you are happy hovering at 185 for years then maybe 150g of protein a day is sufficient to maintain the mass you got. I on the other hand am looking to add muscle not stay the same weight for years. If thats your goal I think 1 gram per lb should be the minimum. I myself go as high as 2 grams per lb

2 grams per LB?

Thats more than twice the highest recommended amount advised. 


I'm not saying it's the healthiest thing. I ate 8000 calories a day for 6 weeks, again can't be the healthiest thing. However I stay lean eat clean healthy foods workout like a beast and get bloodwork done regulary. Can't be much worse then half the population that's over weight and eats fast food daily. There's not many people that get really big without eating a good amount of protein.
 
Originally Posted by JOE CAMEL SMOOTH

speaking of supps
just bought some tren ace

oh boy

ill send those pm's later ive had a crazy weekend


Going with tren for your second? Stacking it with test?
 
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