My Opinion After 2008

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Why would I ever purchase some look-alike garbage when i can get the newest retro sig shoe?
ed to flood us with retros, they turned into the easy chick. Of course, you're not gonna turn her down and some of em are pretty hot, but you'd prolly respect her more if she didn't ***** herself out.
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I really wont mind if JB stops retros, I have and never will buy team j's, but hopefully when JB stops after 08 I have like a 100 pairs stocked up to wear for the next 10 years so I am good regardless. It will actually be fun to take out like 5-10 kicks a year and rock those from DS down to the ground, I am actually looking forward to it.
 
My opinion about aftr 2008 is that we will read about after 2009. Well thought out post though, its just getting annoying.
 
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the bottom line is this, very simple: if they don't either continue to make retros OR step their game up on the sig line, then JB is DONE
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Also JB strategically allocates their shoes in different demographics. Many areas only receive the Team Jordans making those shoes the great sellers in those areas.


Jordan Brand doesn't make those decisions...retailers do...

Jordan Brand shoes are great sellers everywhere, in fact...some of the places where Retro's sell the best are the same places where Brand Jordan shoes sell the best...

I don't know how many times the top selling list has to be posted for you guys to understand that 60,000 Niketalkers that "only" buy Retro Jordan's don't represent buy a drop in the bucket to Jordan Brand and the US consumer base...there are 299,940,000 other people in United States that buy Jordan Brand shoes...

Basically...I am in the same boat as the rest of you...the only Brand Jordan shoe I have ever bought was the Jumpman Pro's...but, that doesn't mean that I am delusional and believe that Brand Jordan shoes don't sell...

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I tried to stay out of this thread, but to some of you....

Do you realize that Team Jays for some Models sell thru at or near full price? i.e. The B Loyal. I am not sure who stated above that some of those didn't do too well but you'd be wrong.

Kids today and many who are older than Kids don't relate to Jordan and his playing days, so they (Brand Jordan) create shoes inspired by past Signature shoes, so kids have their own kicks to relate to. Unfortunately for the older heads we didn't have the lower price points to choose from.. unless the Vindicates or Team Jordan 1 or such came out...

What many folks don't realize is this.

You may not see many Team Jays, because you don't usually hang around others who are in the Demo that wears Team Jays...however kids today will wear a Jordan Team Jordan because of the Jumpman before they style a regular Nike B-Ball shoe, because of price.

Unless they are buying a shoe to ball in and with as many choices as you have now with Nike B-Ball.. you can simply wait a sale out to make that purchase.

I was going to make a Graphic but refrained....but it would have shown...

People on NT
People in Mall not looking at NT
Rest of World

Altho there would also be a section showing NT's profound affect on others who purchase Jordans or Hypebeast Dunks... that is a widely known fact....

But many have to realize there are MANY demo's out there... and they are not all in NT. Altho represented by many in NT.. if that makes sense.
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I think part of the elitism on NT comes from the fact that many of us were around when Team Jordans first dropped an d while the first few models looked sharp, they quickly began to bring out ugly models or takedowns at lower price points.

Team Jordans nowadays are miles ahead of how they were at first, and people/youngsters new to the brand often come in looking simply for "the newest J's y'all got" or "some all black Jordans". To them, there isn't a big distinction between Team and signature models, evidenced by how many people ask "why do these cost $175?" when they pick up a XX2, which is common sense to an NTer.

Basically, Team J's are like a C-Class Benz. Elitists or enthusiasts usually don't cop, but percentage wise that's where MB picks up a huge chunk of its sales.
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really i haven't been looking at jordans or interested since the release of the dmps now i don't even see the point of collecting jordans anymore since there is going to be a retro everything u get your grails. Your grails will evently retro some day so whats the point anymore
 
I fully understand and respect your opinion killerjumpshot,,we have had a series of teams that lead JB to a good amount of sales,,jumpman pro`s,,b`loyals,,9.5`s,,and we are ready for the 12.5`s,,but almost all of us on NT could care less about team J`s,,only a fraction of us care about teams,,i`ll be truth full when people post things on teams i dont bother reading them because i could care less about teams,,retro`s are what really get us,,without retro`s we wouldnt have a JB forum on NT,,but we do have retro`s so we do have a forum,,do you see hypebeasts every where when teams release,,where im from i dont see any,,on the other hand when a retros releases,,im cluttered around hypebeasts,,its because teams arent as hot as retros and that will never change,,overall JB is a brand going down hill with this decision,,but we as people cant do anything about this matter,,we are basicly the consumers in this whole era of hype shoes that started around the mid-late `80s and continued on for more then a decade and going,,JB is a dominant producer among many,,if they really want to do something insainly different with the brand,,well,,they can do it,,its almost as if we are under a spell,,because anything they put out for us to buy as consumers,,were gonna buy it,,?no more retros?,,its a move that could have only been decided by michael himself,,

so my personal thoughts & opinions on the future of JB is this:

2008-2009: JB will make outstanding sales on the 11 packages & the XX3`s

2009-2010: JB will drop a new era of teams that will resemble J`s like the XV`s-XIX`s and will make a smaller percentage of sales from that of the past sales from `08 {as expected}

2010-2011: JB will release more teams but less than the past,,this will result as less sales & less effort into new releaes

2011-2012: JB will be looking like a small company,,like shaq & converse,,the value of the company will decrease leading to many low sale prices on shoes,,less demand,,and less effort,,

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I can't lie..Some TJ's look alright..but i would never buy any.
Since day 1 i never liked them. In the 8th grade around the time that the 9's retroed, we used to call tj's fake jordans.
 
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My man while your thoughts are well stated, they are incorrect on many levels.

Mike is NOT the final word at Brand Jordan.. no matter WHAT many may THINK. He merely has a big say on much that goes on there.

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without retro`s we wouldnt have a JB forum on NT
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I dont really like team js,well theyre ok, but i dont think jb will fall off after 08
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2008-2009: JB will make outstanding sales on the 11 packages & the XX3`s


Packages yeah; XX3's, I dunno. I'm not an insider & I haven't seen the shoe, but just judging from the last 4 signature Jordans, I wouldn't put my money on the XX3's being a huge seller, except for the limited colorway since it'll have the hypebeast allure to it. There's not really an argument about it being the "last Jordan to come out" unless they create that kind of buzz via advertising because the average Joe isn't an NTer & really wouldn't know. Signature Jordans have been second fiddle to retros for a good while now, largely due to JB taking the easy route for turning a quick profit.



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2009-2010: JB will drop a new era of teams that will resemble J`s like the XV`s-XIX`s and will make a smaller percentage of sales from that of the past sales from `08 {as expected}
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Nothing new or innovative going on, but they have "that appeal" to them that will be a huge seller for the brand.



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2010-2011: JB will release more teams but less than the past,,this will result as less sales & less effort into new releaes


That's a little too far in the future for me to really gage, but I don't see sales dipping like that. Reputation perhaps, depending on what direction they take, but that's too quick for a huge sales dip, IMO.


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2011-2012: JB will be looking like a small company,,like shaq & converse,,the value of the company will decrease leading to many low sale prices on shoes,,less demand,,and less effort,,
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I can't get over how many on this board think they have to keep spending money on shoes wether there's anything out there that they like or not. It's like if your not spending $500 a month on sneakers somethings wrong with you. If there's nothing I like for a year than I won't purchase anything for a year, I don't buy just to be buying.
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