**Official USMNT Soccer Thread**

Originally Posted by KRISPACINLA

Torres is our future Landon. He is still young, but you can see the no#10 skills he has. Altidore is only 20 and already a starter on the team. He is a guy that also just going to get better as he develop a better understanding of the game. I don't even want to bring up the future we have in the under-20 teams. Here is a short list:

Luis Gil ( possibly another no#10 in the making)

Charles Ranken

Joseph Gyau

Michael Hoyos (plays at Estudiantes down in the Argentine first division)

Stefan Jerome

Felix Garcia ( Dude is a stud no#9 Goal scoring machine. Was drafted by the Dynamo, but still plays at his Laredo club in the PDL)


There a ton more, but dont have time to mention them all. Our USMNT has a bright future. Only a matter of time, before we win a WC. Maybe this year.

Off-topic. Just got into Mazatlan last night, and woke up mad early for this event they were having at cousin College. Needless to say the cuties here off-the hook. Here is a sample of the beauty. SOCALUIS And MARION, you guys already know the deal
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Just looking at the different Last Names is kinda inspiring. The new "face" of the US
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The gueritas though.... mmmmm
 
If only Luis Gil wasnt denied a mexican passport he could of been with real madrid already.

But Luis Gil is only 16 and has already started playing with the U-20. Hopefully he gets called up for the next cycle.
 
Originally Posted by marionthebarberian

Originally Posted by WHPH10

, it just looks like the USMNT does not have the mental capacity to compete in SA.


that the one of the main reasons we are still in the games, foreign coaches praise that about American players.

"We always expect (the U.S. teams) to be athletic. You always expect them to have that winning appetite about them. I think that’s inbred in them,'' Ferguson said. "When you play against a team with good winning habits and you play against teams with good athleticism and good organizational skills, you find it difficult.''
The Americans who do make it to European leagues are generally always complimented on their work ethics and winning mentality. We may not be born with the sport ingrained in our blood, but those of us who make it to the top levels have the desire to win that makes us competitive. The winning attitude is what got us as far as we went in Korea, and if we make a run this year it will be more because of our heart and effort than our skill. 
 
Originally Posted by env

Omar Gonzalez will be in the mix soon.

plus tim ream...ole boy had a tough game today with the own goal but i would not be surprised to see the two being our starting centerbacks a few times in this next WC cycle. 
 
Originally Posted by CincoSeisDos

Originally Posted by KRISPACINLA

Torres is our future Landon. He is still young, but you can see the no#10 skills he has. Altidore is only 20 and already a starter on the team. He is a guy that also just going to get better as he develop a better understanding of the game. I don't even want to bring up the future we have in the under-20 teams. Here is a short list:

Luis Gil ( possibly another no#10 in the making)

Charles Ranken

Joseph Gyau

Michael Hoyos (plays at Estudiantes down in the Argentine first division)

Stefan Jerome

Felix Garcia ( Dude is a stud no#9 Goal scoring machine. Was drafted by the Dynamo, but still plays at his Laredo club in the PDL)


There a ton more, but dont have time to mention them all. Our USMNT has a bright future. Only a matter of time, before we win a WC. Maybe this year.
Just looking at the different Last Names is kinda inspiring. The new "face" of the US
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The gueritas though.... mmmmm
yea dont forget McInerney either, plays with the Union now but he was a beast for the U-17's..feel bad for what happened with Zac Herold though, he played on that team as well and wont ever play again

cosign everything on Gil, saw him a couple times during the U-17 World Cup and was easily the best player on the pitch either side
 
Originally Posted by wayne looney

Originally Posted by CincoSeisDos

Originally Posted by KRISPACINLA

Torres is our future Landon. He is still young, but you can see the no#10 skills he has. Altidore is only 20 and already a starter on the team. He is a guy that also just going to get better as he develop a better understanding of the game. I don't even want to bring up the future we have in the under-20 teams. Here is a short list:

Luis Gil ( possibly another no#10 in the making)

Charles Ranken

Joseph Gyau

Michael Hoyos (plays at Estudiantes down in the Argentine first division)

Stefan Jerome

Felix Garcia ( Dude is a stud no#9 Goal scoring machine. Was drafted by the Dynamo, but still plays at his Laredo club in the PDL)


There a ton more, but dont have time to mention them all. Our USMNT has a bright future. Only a matter of time, before we win a WC. Maybe this year.
Just looking at the different Last Names is kinda inspiring. The new "face" of the US
smokin.gif


The gueritas though.... mmmmm
yea dont forget McInerney either, plays with the Union now but he was a beast for the U-17's..feel bad for what happened with Zac Herold though, he played on that team as well and wont ever play again

cosign everything on Gil, saw him a couple times during the U-17 World Cup and was easily the best player on the pitch either side
Wonder when Gil is gonna see the field for RSL.
 
Originally Posted by NikeTalker23

Originally Posted by KRISPACINLA

Only a matter of time, before we win a WC. Maybe this year.

Jesus Christ 
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Mexican fans stay salty because they cant face the fact that in 20 years the U.S. is better than them.

Mexico has played for over 100 years and they are still stuck in the same place

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Originally Posted by Michaelfoooo

Originally Posted by NikeTalker23

Originally Posted by KRISPACINLA

Only a matter of time, before we win a WC. Maybe this year.

Jesus Christ 
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Mexican fans stay salty because they cant face the fact that in 20 years the U.S. is better than them.

Mexico has played for over 100 years and they are still stuck in the same place

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Progress? You went from almost advancing to semis in 02 to getting 1 point and not getting out the group stage in 06. That's not progressing, thats regressing. And why do you say that the US is better than Mexico? I'm sure you'll bring up the 02 win in Korea, since you guys love to live in the past. Just remember that in present times, the last two games we played, have been won by Mexico. One in Mexico and one on American soil. 2-1, 5-0. You can talk all you want when you guys beat us...
 
Originally Posted by Michaelfoooo

Originally Posted by NikeTalker23

Originally Posted by KRISPACINLA

Only a matter of time, before we win a WC. Maybe this year.

Jesus Christ 
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Mexican fans stay salty because they cant face the fact that in 20 years the U.S. is better than them.

Mexico has played for over 100 years and they are still stuck in the same place

progress
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Progress? You went from almost advancing to semis in 02 to getting 1 point and not getting out the group stage in 06. That's not progressing, thats regressing. And why do you say that the US is better than Mexico? I'm sure you'll bring up the 02 win in Korea, since you guys love to live in the past. Just remember that in present times, the last two games we played, have been won by Mexico. One in Mexico and one on American soil. 2-1, 5-0. You can talk all you want when you guys beat us...
 
Originally Posted by NikeTalker23

Originally Posted by Michaelfoooo

Originally Posted by NikeTalker23

Originally Posted by KRISPACINLA

Only a matter of time, before we win a WC. Maybe this year.

Jesus Christ 
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Mexican fans stay salty because they cant face the fact that in 20 years the U.S. is better than them.

Mexico has played for over 100 years and they are still stuck in the same place

progress
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Progress? You went from almost advancing to semis in 02 to getting 1 point and not getting out the group stage in 06. That's not progressing, thats regressing. And why do you say that the US is better than Mexico? I'm sure you'll bring up the 02 win in Korea, since you guys love to live in the past. Just remember that in present times, the last two games we played, have been won by Mexico. One in Mexico and one on American soil. 2-1, 5-0. You can talk all you want when you guys beat us...
No one cares about the Gold Cup win.  We had all lower level players in our system.  Most of the time in this decade we have won.  Yes we lost at the Azteca and good job for that but you know that is one hell of a home field.  We still have won most of the time and in the most important times. 
 
Originally Posted by NikeTalker23

Originally Posted by Michaelfoooo

Originally Posted by NikeTalker23

Originally Posted by KRISPACINLA

Only a matter of time, before we win a WC. Maybe this year.

Jesus Christ 
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laugh.gif


Mexican fans stay salty because they cant face the fact that in 20 years the U.S. is better than them.

Mexico has played for over 100 years and they are still stuck in the same place

progress
pimp.gif
Progress? You went from almost advancing to semis in 02 to getting 1 point and not getting out the group stage in 06. That's not progressing, thats regressing. And why do you say that the US is better than Mexico? I'm sure you'll bring up the 02 win in Korea, since you guys love to live in the past. Just remember that in present times, the last two games we played, have been won by Mexico. One in Mexico and one on American soil. 2-1, 5-0. You can talk all you want when you guys beat us...


Niketalker, you my homie and all, but c'mon man, let me real. Mexico is one of the most underachiving nations in the world when it comes to world soccer. MEXICO zero world cups, yet been playing this game how long_ how many WC in Mexican soil and did you even get a top 3 finish I dont think so. Yeah Mexico has dominated the region over the years and yes you have beaten up the last two times. But face it, the Progress the US has done the last 15 years is quite good. Were are up there with Mexico as CONCACRAP best, and  we did beat you in 2002 to reach the Quarters. You must admit, the refs screw us in the next game with the germans. Confeds Finals last year and took Spain unbeaten streak. I mean that is progression right. I respect Mexico, but in all honesty I see US winning a WC before Mexico ever does. 

  
 
How big would it be for our country if the U.S. won this WC? Real talk.
 
Originally Posted by RoOk

How big would it be for our country if the U.S. won this WC? Real talk.


Just remembering how much attention soccer got when the US made to the quarters in '02, I feel it like it could have a huge effect. Not to mention the respect the US will gain from around the world.
 
The value of the win over Turkey

When the media wanted to talk about the Americans' excellent second half in their 2-1 comeback victory over Turkey on Saturday, Michael Bradley wanted to talk about the whole match.

Asked if he thought the team's last 45 minutes put the Yanks in a good frame of mind heading to South Africa, Bradley changed the subject.

"The final 90 minutes?" Bradley asked, in a correcting tone, before answering that yes, the final 90 minutes were indeed satisfying. "Coming from behind, winning in front of your fans is a great feeling."

His point was this: Even when it may not look like it, the U.S. plays hard for a full game, and that sustained effort is what leads to good stretches of play like Saturday's second half. And that knowledge leads to a sort of confidence, even when the team appears outclassed, as it did in parts of the first half.


"We have the mentality that we're going to keep going," Bradley says. "We're going to use our fight and our physical qualities and our fitness and our competitiveness to keep at it. No matter what happens, no matter whether we're down 1-0, 2-0, whether we go up a goal or two, just keep going."

It's a philosophy ingrained in the team. No one half of play, or one game in a qualifying run, or even two games in a tournament like the World Cup, dictates the outcome. The U.S. is in for the long haul. That's why for the next two weeks, you'll hear them saying that, yes, they want to beat England in the June 12 opener, but if they don't, it won't be the end of the World (Cup).

That quality, says keeper Tim Howard, is what sets this team apart. "It's our resilience," he says. "Our ability to dig in, and even when it's not sexy and pretty, make no bones about that, make no apologies for that. We've accepted that. We don't try to be somebody else. A lot's been made of it, but to our credit we haven't said we have to play a more attractive brand of soccer. We can dig in and we can fight, and we know what our strengths are, and we play to them."

One of those strengths is stamina. A determined and talented Turkish squad came out flying, battling hard for a friendly, and with its talented midfield led by Tuncay Sanli, capitalized on U.S. turnovers with a wicked counterattack, epitomized by Arda Turan's goal. U.S. right back Jonathan Spector made a clever, long run into the Turkish penalty area, but when he lost the ball, there was nobody covering for him on the flank, and the Turks made the U.S. pay with a great long ball into the space and a nice finish by Turan. Despite other good scoring opportunities, the Turks could only muster that lone goal in the half, and on a muggy day, had essentially punched themselves out.

For the Yanks, the second half outcome was something to be expected. They could sense Turkey was wearing down, even before the game turned. "We were a little bit unfortunate to go down 1-0, because the game had started to tilt in our favor a little bit," Bradley says. "And then they score off the counter, and go up 1-0, and there's just a sense of the commitment, the drive to just keep going. It's a good feeling when you come in at halftime and you look around the locker room and you've got a team full of guys that's going to do that."

Sparked by subs Robbie Findley at forward, Jose Torres in central midfield and Steve Cherundolo and Oguchi Onyewu in the back line, the Americans completely dominated. Findley's speed up front stretched the Turkish defense and created spaces for Landon Donovan and Clint Dempsey that weren't there in the first half.


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Robbie Findley was clutch for the U.S. men's team against Turkey.
Meanwhile, Torres' and Cherundolo's solid passing and possession had a calming effect on the U.S., and the team began stringing passes together from back to front, getting Bradley more involved in the offense, and further wearing down the wobbly Turks.

Dempsey says the space Findley created gave him and Donovan more room, and "therefore, we were able to get more time on the ball, and therefore we had the ball more, and they got tired. And I thought Michael and Jose made them pay even more by keeping possession and making them run more and creating more chances, more pockets where we could get the ball."

With space to work, Donovan took a beautiful chip pass from Findley and spotted Jozy Altidore for the equalizer, than set up Dempsey for the winner. Suddenly, the U.S. looked downright attractive, scoring a pair of pretty goals to send the send-off crowd of more than 55,000 home happy.

And suddenly, the Yanks went from looking vulnerable to looking dangerous.

But ask Michael Bradley and the rest of his mates, and they'll tell you: It didn't happen suddenly. It's all about the full 90, and in two weeks, the full three games of the World Cup's first round.

The Findley Factor
As we just pointed out above, Robbie Findley made a huge contribution to the U.S. on Saturday. That may have surprised some fans lobbying for the inclusion of Brian Ching on the roster, but not Findley's teammates.

"There are not many teams in the world that have a guy like that that they can bring off the bench and impact a game," Landon Donovan says. "That's why he's here, to use his energy, speed, his ability. He's aggressive and he puts people under a lot of pressure. And when Jozy and Clint and I are wearing out defenders and you can bring him in, that's an absolute nightmare for the other team."

And it didn't surprise Findley, whom coach Bob Bradley has been grooming since last fall. He quietly served an apprenticeship with the U.S. team during last fall's qualifiers, got a serious audition for a forward spot when Charlie Davies was injured in an October auto accident, and had his first taste of a high-pressure international match in March in the Netherlands. "It was definitely an eye-opener for me," he says. "I think I've come a long way, realized a lot since that game. I wasn't too effective in that game, I don't think. So I just told myself, when I get the opportunity again, just go at players, get those defenders on their heels and make stuff happen."

He did that for the past two weeks in training, and has built up his confidence at the international level. "I just felt sharp," he says. "I think I'm coming into my own and starting to recognize what the guys around me like to do. So it's coming along. There's still some stuff that needs to be worked on, but I'm going in the right direction."

Quick notes
• Besides the scoreboard, the U.S. can travel to South Africa feeling good about its wounded back-line warriors. Carlos Bocanegra looked smooth at left back, showing no signs of his recent sports hernia surgery, Jay DeMerit played an active 90 minutes at center back after an abdominal strain, and Oguchi Onyewu, who came on in the second half after making his first start in seven months Tuesday against the Czech Republic, was flying around, and sending some opponents flying. He appeared unaffected by his surgically repaired left knee.

• After Saturday's tilt, Donovan heaped praise on the 55,407 fans who came out to the Linc, a record crowd for a U.S. game in the City of Brotherly Love. "For me, that was one of the best crowds we've ever had in this country," Donovan told a local television reporter. "We don't always get a pro-American crowd, and even when we do, it might be 55 percent to 45. Today, there were a lot of Americans, and they were vocal right from the national anthem."

And they didn't boo the home team once.
 
              ---------Tim Howard--------
  Cherundolo-----Demerit-----Gooch-----Carlos
  Dempsey-----MB--------Torres---------Landon
                  Altidore --------Findley


Let's roll.
 
checking in!, i have a standing bet with a friend that the us doesnt make the quarter finals, im pretty sure you guys advance but lose to germany in the round of 16, altough that ballack injury got me a little bit worried!


PS: LOL at the Sinaloan chick with the nextel and a Buchanans whisky sticker on the phone!
 
Originally Posted by deepinthajeep

              ---------Tim Howard--------
  Cherundolo-----Demerit-----Gooch-----Carlos
  Dempsey-----MB--------Torres---------Landon
                  Altidore --------Findley


Let's roll.

I like this lineup.
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