The Hell With The Police VOL Know Your Rights

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This weekend i've lost ALL respect for police officers...the little i had for some of them is gone!!
Just because a black man has priors makes him a suspect?? The HELL with that G
The amount of respect some of these herb officers out here show for black youth or black men in general is sad.
Just because some of us are from the hood that makes us ignorant to you?
Its all good though, They tried to get ya boy in 18 months in jail then thought it would be my best interest to use a public defender?
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Maybe if i was as ignorant as the police took me for i would have been thinking ohhh its free!! and there on my side too!
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The advice i leave for any black male growing up in the urban area is
-Learn from what you see around you
-Just because we come from different parts doesn't mean we cant have the same education and knowledge as anyone else.
- KNOW YOUR RIGHTS
 
I agree, know your rights! I mean that on a general basis though, most people don't know their basic rights anyway. Get educated...
 
BEST believe if you ever get into a situation that you have no business in and you dont know some of your rights. the police WILL take advantage ofyou!!
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since you have priors you are technically more likely to commit a crime. But I feel you on that prejudice shut they do
 
They can do whatever you want, you really don't have many rights. My advice is nod your heads, smile, and yes si'ir officer sir, and hope for the best.I have been pulled over for no reason; sometimes they tell me I "fit a description" or "looked suspicious," sometimes they make up sometraffic violation, most of the time they don't even say any reason and I've had my stuff illegally searched, but what am I gonna do, talk %!*$ to anofficer? Yea that'll work out well. Son put a gun in my face for reaching in the console when he asked for license and registration.
 
Originally Posted by Dirtylicious

Cops....the only population where it's ok to stereotype the whole on the basis of a few.

Agreed... although i could counter that statement you made but then i could already see you pulling the "irony" card
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This weekend i've lost ALL respect for police officers...the little i had for some of them is gone!!
man, it seems like my family had the worst experience ever with the police last week.
I posted about my uncle being missing, well the police found his car with 2 dudes riding in it. They didn't question the dudes thoroughly, didn't eventake on of them in, just released him on the scene. After a few days and some bad press they finally decided to search the car for evidence. Few days latermy uncle turns up in the hospital with his throat cut and all stabbed up. I would think the police would do a good search of hospitals when someone ismissing, since they can only give so much information out to citizens calling. Now one of the main suspects is probably long gone.
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I don't hate the police, but I can understand some don't have muchfaith in them...
 
Just Throwin this out there....


Your argument would be stronger, if you didnt need to include that its because your "BLACK". I add the "" 's, because its no longereven a race thing, its becoming a MINDSET.


Dudes be on some, 'almost everyone in my hood gettin arrested is black'....
well, is the majority of your neighborhood black?
Yeah...
So then.wouldnt the odds tell you that the majority of people being arrested be... well... BLACK!?...?
but Still....
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It's not just a black thing fam, its a youth thing. Police are stereotypin age ranges and appearances, not just our people. Its just that you're blackand live around other black people, that u see it as just a race issue. But I assure you, I'm a young black male in a major city, and i have plenty offriends of other ethnicities, backgrounds, and lifestyles who have unjustly harassed by the poilce force. just know your rights, and if u gonna do dirt, besmart about it man.

and with that said, "On the count of three, say f***the police. ONE, TWO, THREE..."
 
Originally Posted by ServeChilled81

This weekend i've lost ALL respect for police officers...the little i had for some of them is gone!!
man, it seems like my family had the worst experience ever with the police last week.
I posted about my uncle being missing, well the police found his car with 2 dudes riding in it. They didn't question the dudes thoroughly, didn't even take on of them in, just released him on the scene. After a few days and some bad press they finally decided to search the car for evidence. Few days later my uncle turns up in the hospital with his throat cut and all stabbed up. I would think the police would do a good search of hospitals when someone is missing, since they can only give so much information out to citizens calling. Now one of the main suspects is probably long gone.
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I don't hate the police, but I can understand some don't have much faith in them...

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Made it outta court comfortably, judge said I need a job aint nothing coming free Coulda Got a 1-3

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Its funny when you say "Know Your Rights" and someone says yea i know my rights! Jay-Z told me in 99 problems that I dont have to get out of my carand cops need a warrant to search my glove compartment and trunk. Wrong!
 
some cops just have a chip on their shoulder
especially when you question their authority
they' want to break you than
 
Originally Posted by ServeChilled81

This weekend i've lost ALL respect for police officers...the little i had for some of them is gone!!
man, it seems like my family had the worst experience ever with the police last week.
I posted about my uncle being missing, well the police found his car with 2 dudes riding in it. They didn't question the dudes thoroughly, didn't even take on of them in, just released him on the scene. After a few days and some bad press they finally decided to search the car for evidence. Few days later my uncle turns up in the hospital with his throat cut and all stabbed up. I would think the police would do a good search of hospitals when someone is missing, since they can only give so much information out to citizens calling. Now one of the main suspects is probably long gone.
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I don't hate the police, but I can understand some don't have much faith in them...


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Originally Posted by Dirtylicious

Cops....the only population where it's ok to stereotype the whole on the basis of a few.

oh yeah? check out what NYC's been going thru within da past week...

[h2]February 27, 2006[/h2]
[h3]Don't Touch that Purse on the Subway Platform![/h3]

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Just as there's word that subway crime is down versus that sameperiod last year (318 felonies versus 2005's 510), it turns out that the police are nabbing crooks by setting up shopping carts and purses on subway platforms to tempt thieves in the past few weeks. TheNYPD calls it "Operation Lucky Bag," and the NY Post has an amusing picture of a foldinggrocery cart set up. The police love how they've been able to arrest people with extensive criminal records, but some lawyers say it's entrapment.Yeah, like, what if someone is taking the shopping cart or purse away because they are going to bring them to the station agent for the MTA Lost and Found? Onepolice source tells the Post the operation is a way for the Transit Chief to boost his number of arrests. Aha! That, and giving out summons left and right foranything.

And the lower crime numbers for 2006? It seems that cellphone and iPod related thefts were the cause of the high numbers in 2005, so we guess that Santagave gadgets to enough people last year.


[h1]Man who picks up wallet to help feels discriminated against by cops[/h1]
BY CHRISTINA BOYLE
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

Wednesday, December 5th 2007, 4:00 AM

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Carlos Alayo discusses his ordeal with undercover police last Wednesday after he spotted an abandoned wallet on subway platform bench at Grand Central.

He was trying to do a good deed - but ended up feeling like a common criminal.

Freelance photographer Carlos Alayo says he was late for a business meeting when he spotted a wallet lying abandoned on a subway platform bench.

He picked it up and put it in his bag, with every intention of later finding its owner, but as he rushed to board the 6 train last Wednesday at GrandCentral, he felt a hand on his shoulder.

"Where's the wallet?" the undercover cop asked him.

Alayo, 32, is one of the latest New Yorkers ensnared in the NYPD's clampdown on thieves - known as Operation Lucky Bag.

After giving the officers the wallet, he was frisked, made to put his hands against the wall and hand over his identification so they could do a criminalhistory check.

"It wasn't even crossing my mind what was inside [the wallet]. I was trying to get to my appointment," Alayo said.

"It made me feel like I was a criminal, like I did something wrong. The look on [the cop's] face, it was like he already knew that I wasarrested.

"He said, 'Don't lie to me, just tell me how many times you've been arrested.'

"That just stabbed me right there in the heart."

Alayo, who is from Peru, felt the eyes of all the rush-hour commuters on him as he was searched by officers.

"I was so ashamed, my face went red and people were looking," he said.

"God knows what they were thinking, a Spanish guy on the platform surrounded by cops. It made me feel very uneasy inside.

"I've been in this country 17 years and not felt discriminated against until that day," Alayo said.

The decoy operation involves planting shopping bags, purses, backpacks and wallets around the subway system, where unsuspecting passersby are watched to seehow they react.

The plants used to be worth a few hundred dollars at most.

Now they contain real American Express Cards, issued under pseudonyms to the Police Department. Theft of a credit card is grand larceny, a Class E felony,so anyone cops believe has the intention of stealing the decoy wallet or bag could face up to four years behind bars.

"Even property which is lost or mislaid can be stolen," said NYPD Deputy Police Commissioner Paul Browne. "A person who takes or findsproperty which is lost or mislaid has a legal obligation to make efforts to return the property to its owner, which can include delivering the property to thepolice."

Last year, the NYPD's Transit Bureau arrested 101 individuals with prior arrest histories through the decoy program. Those 101 people had a combinedtotal of 761 prior arrests, Browne said. On at least 178 other occasions, the bag left on the bench or seat was turned over to proper authorities.

Alayo says he has no criminal record - save for one summons several years ago for public urination. The cops let him go last week when they found nooutstanding warrants - or reason to charge him.

The NYPD is under fire for targeting minorities for its stop-and-frisk policies, and the New York CivilLiberties Union believes Operation Lucky Bag needs to be abandoned.

"Policies like this are hellbent on stopping people from being good Samaritans," said Donna Lieberman, executive director of the New York CivilLiberties Union.

"A process like this is a pretext for racial profiling. I'm sure the NYPD has far more sophisticated tactics at their disposal than droppingwallets on the train."
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^ That isn't every police force in the country. NYPD does have some strange ideas though, this definitely had somewhat of a good idea but poor execution.
 
oh yeah? check out what NYC's been going thru within da past week...
what does that have to do with my statement?

in society general...is it accepted for people to stereotype based on a few interactions?...not at all.
....but with cops...it is.


and I know about that lucky bag op...they had is before and shut it down due to public pressure...hopefully they'll do the same thing here....but the thingyou highlighted has no bearing on the op at hand....the NYCLU stays that all the time
 
Originally Posted by bbanks707

Its funny when you say "Know Your Rights" and someone says yea i know my rights! Jay-Z told me in 99 problems that I dont have to get out of my car and cops need a warrant to search my glove compartment and trunk. Wrong!

not exactly wrong.

The police need probable cause. However, nowadays probable cause can mean virtually ANYTHING, i.e. 'you fit a description', 'you were doingsomething suspicious', etc. The proper use of authority depends on the honesty of those who are entrusted with that authority. Sadly, too many policeofficers abuse their authority. I've seen police officers tell grown men, not children, grown men to 'shut up" or 'don't talkback".

The NYPD does ahve a psychological exam but there are P.O. (a lot of P.O.'s) who should never have been allowed to be P.O.'s. As I have saidearlier, as long as the startign pay is 30k dept's won't attract the sharpest tools in the shed.
 
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