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I would think you're better off doing that if your only intention is to lease. Don't rush, there are M4's everywhere and I'm fairly certain the LCI models are right around the corner, play the slow game, let the dealer know you want to sell privately because their offer simply doesn't cut it. They will counter you if it's possible on their end. Just know that once your car is sold you're going to start getting a bit more emotional about the buying process. Nothing sucks more than not having your M3.

Agreed. The car was listed for $79k and they brought it down to $77k. Like you said, M4's will keep coming, and I can probably even building one for cheaper than $77k. Thanks man :smokin
 
Agreed. The car was listed for $79k and they brought it down to $77k. Like you said, M4's will keep coming, and I can probably even building one for cheaper than $77k. Thanks man :smokin


The one my friend's sister got had an MSRP of 83k. I don't know what's missing on yours but I would be certain of everything. My guess is the side view cameras or something. Either way, now that I know that, that's not the best deal you could possibly get, it's actually horrible. The same friend has his 991 911 leased for 1100 a month on a 100k car. Doing the math that's the lease price you are essentially getting. $16000 applied to the principal of the lease would bring a payment from right around 1100 to 750, all things equal and not including interest (your exact quote). They are leasing you the vehicle at $1100/mo @ 0 down. Nothing to write home about.

Edit: Just for reference, he got the 911 for 5k down 1100/mo. His sister got the M4 for 5k down 950/mo albeit with an MSRP of 5k more than the vehicle you were looking at. Both are on terms of 36mo/30k.
 
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Post-wash, both of the whips. Added powdercoated Turbo II wheels to the Pan. Still waiting on wheels for the 911. I really hate how the pan looks with the spoiler down though, also the window trim.

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The one my friend's sister got had an MSRP of 83k. I don't know what's missing on yours but I would be certain of everything. My guess is the side view cameras or something. Either way, now that I know that, that's not the best deal you could possibly get, it's actually horrible. The same friend has his 991 911 leased for 1100 a month on a 100k car. Doing the math that's the lease price you are essentially getting. $16000 applied to the principal of the lease would bring a payment from right around 1100 to 750, all things equal and not including interest (your exact quote). They are leasing you the vehicle at $1100/mo @ 0 down. Nothing to write home about.

Edit: Just for reference, he got the 911 for 5k down 1100/mo. His sister got the M4 for 5k down 950/mo albeit with an MSRP of 5k more than the vehicle you were looking at. Both are on terms of 36mo/30k.

I believe they quoted me $1098 a month with 0 down, so you're right on.

At 10k miles a year, they gave me a residual of 65%, a money factor of 0.0013 based on MSRP of $78K.
 
I believe they quoted me $1098 a month with 0 down, so you're right on.

At 10k miles a year, they gave me a residual of 65%, a money factor of 0.0013 based on MSRP of $78K.


Good thing you didn't get too emotional on that $750 they were throwing at you...that's the way these dealers work. They hoped that the lower number would get you into the finance office. Even if you're not local, I highly suggest speaking to David Aviles @ Steve Thomas BMW, say you heard about him from the forums and want him to match some of the deals you've been seeing bimmerpost members get over the last few months. Make sure he gives you a quote, prior to informing him of your trade-in and then have the 26k offer in paper (or at least say you do) and have him match it.

If you go that route, you certainly wouldn't be getting screwed.

My honest opinion is that trading vs selling privately can be worth it only if it keeps your stress level down to a minimum. Nothing is more annoying than tire kickers, and it also adds extra frustration/shys buyers away if you aren't in possession of the pink slip. If he can get you into a loaded M4 @ your current monthly finance price, then do it.
 
Good thing you didn't get too emotional on that $750 they were throwing at you...that's the way these dealers work. They hoped that the lower number would get you into the finance office. Even if you're not local, I highly suggest speaking to David Aviles @ Steve Thomas BMW, say you heard about him from the forums and want him to match some of the deals you've been seeing bimmerpost members get over the last few months. Make sure he gives you a quote, prior to informing him of your trade-in and then have the 26k offer in paper (or at least say you do) and have him match it.

If you go that route, you certainly wouldn't be getting screwed.

My honest opinion is that trading vs selling privately can be worth it only if it keeps your stress level down to a minimum. Nothing is more annoying than tire
kickers, and it also adds extra frustration/shys buyers away if you aren't in possession of the pink slip. If he can get you into a loaded M4 @ your current monthly finance price, then do it.


Within this post on Bimmerpost:

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1084623

They includes a few formulas you can use to determine leasing monthly payments. Doing quick math I came up with the following:

700


I emailed this to my SA, asking where the delta between the $752 he offered and the $648 from the speadsheet. They must be embedding some hidden fees that I'm not aware of. :x

If I sell them my car for $23,000, the monthly drops to $600. Weird...
 
^Sheesh! What was that person even thinking. There's no way you're going to even make it out of the dealership through a door or window unnoticed....anyways I plan on washing, claying, polishing and waxing my car once I order the polish and wax. Should take about 5-7 hours since I'm doing it by hand. Nothing like a little elbow grease.
 
Post-wash, both of the whips. Added powdercoated Turbo II wheels to the Pan. Still waiting on wheels for the 911. I really hate how the pan looks with the spoiler down though, also the window trim.

I hate the chrome trim on my car also, I thought about getting it wrapped black but considering I got silver I think it accents the car well. Maybe getting yours wrapped in black might not look so bad?
 
Bruh, **** that M4.


Keep ya E92 brah. Dead srs


If you going that route, you might as well cop a 6 series.

If you're trading up from an M3, go big b.
 
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Bruh, **** that M4.


Keep ya E92 brah. Dead srs


If you going that route, you might as well cop a 6 series.

If you're trading up from an M3, go big b.

Yes on keeping the e9x (but I'm biased). Hell no on a 6 series. Most people that drives a M3 will not want to trade in their car for a huge boat.

To the guy that wants the f8x, you can definitely get $26k for your e90 privately (and possibly more if you aren't in a rush). If the e90 is paid off, I would not trade it in to get a f80 where you will lease it for that much just to turn it in 3 years later. The f8x is an amazing car, but not $50k nicer than the e90.
 
I hate the chrome trim on my car also, I thought about getting it wrapped black but considering I got silver I think it accents the car well. Maybe getting yours wrapped in black might not look so bad?


Yeah I've contemplated it, debating to do that or just go ahead and install the factory black trim from the GTS panamera. For now I'm going to be patient lol.

Within this post on Bimmerpost:

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1084623

They includes a few formulas you can use to determine leasing monthly payments. Doing quick math I came up with the following:

700


I emailed this to my SA, asking where the delta between the $752 he offered and the $648 from the speadsheet. They must be embedding some hidden fees that I'm not aware of. :x

If I sell them my car for $23,000, the monthly drops to $600. Weird...


Good job you're officially ahead of their game lol, now get another dealership involved to compete with them.
 
What's your actual money factor that they quoted I'm a car salesman salesman. If it's actually what you put in that calculator then there isn't much you can do about that.... But your math is jankeyy cause you did it with your 23k as straight down payment and you still have a payoff
 
Wait that math in the calculator is right... Where is the computer generated numbers

Money factor was taken from BMW's June rates which were released today.

I did not include the $23,000 trade it. I did include a down payment of $10,000 tho (either from the trade in or if I sell the car privately)

I'm hoping my SA emails me their numbers tomorrow to determine what fees have been added, if any...
 
Bruh, do not drop 10k on a lease downpayment. If you want to bring your monthly payments down, look into placing Multiple Security Deposits. It'll bring your money factor down and thus lower your monthly payment.

If you put that 10k down, you are never going to see it again. 
 
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Haven't been in this thread in a while. Still away on deployment. I had some down time so I was able to catch up on almost 408 pages. Sheesh. I found out last week that I'm going to Korea early next year. Looks like I'll be selling my M5 because I really don't want to leave her in storage.

Nelson, I saw a few weeks back you were looking for info on the E60. PM me if you have any questions.
 
Tbh, imo the smartest route would be to hold off on the M4 for a while and cop a used one in a couple years when the price goes down.


But it's dudes money and decision.

But like homie who posted after me said, it's not worth 50k more.

If dude was talking about an M6 or a big *** 7 series boss whip, I'd understand. But this is almost literally like going from a 335 to an M3. You're not going to feel that much more enjoyment out of it for the cost.

But that's just my opinion. If you got the bread, then spend it pleighboi.


Or cop a Porsche.....
 
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