Females of NT, do you mind being approached in a non-social setting?

Originally Posted by TheBachellor

Originally Posted by mytmouse76

i didn't know giving your number out on the street made you a ho...i've never heard anyone say that...

but of course most people won't talk about who they DID give their number too...they don't even now him yet or have anything invested in him so there's nothing to talk about...

i don't know any girl who is really bothered by it but of course you gotta be selective so if she didn't like his jeans or shoes she's not gonna give him the time of day...you cna't hand it over to eveyone who asks...


I'm just curious, how many times have you done this? I would think you're in your early 20's, but I highly doubt you've given your number out in these types of situations more than 10 times. So is it just that most of these dudes are unattractive? 

I want to believe you, but I think its more the mindset that you (females) don't want to be another girl that some dude "bagged". Like somehow it psychologically is better if he's spent more time with you before he asks for it, because then you can say "Well at least I didn't give it up easy like those other females he probably talked to".

Its similar to a lot of females' mindset on sex. Like making dude wait an exorbitant amount of time makes you "not easy".
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how are you gonna tell me how many times i've given my number out in any situation? i can't give an exact number but its more than 10 times...of course i've met guys through other people but i've also met strangers too...like i said it happens all the time but you can't give your number out to everyone who asks...you can say no for whatever reason you choose...it could be she doesn't want to be bothered at the time...he's unattractive...he has on a blue shirt and she hates blue...and i don't know any girl who doesn't want to be bagged...thats usaually how it goes...guy bags girl and they go from there...

you really sound like you don't know what youre talking about...i'm telling you how it is and you're telling me what you think females think...

of course there are those that dont like to be approached by strangers...if anything i'd have to guess its even
 
Originally Posted by JoseBronx

Originally Posted by FlyJr22

Man I'm 23 and live in Cali and definitely don't get at no hoodrats or nothin, I try to stick to females with some class or some kind of sophistication. But if you're not in a social setting or your car doesn't speak for you (some kind of foreign whip) you're not gonna pull a girl who you completely don't know and try to approach. I try to stick to the one's who at least give me some kind of hint like a wink, smile or catch them looking a few times. Other than that I don't care how bad a female is or how much she's my type if she don't throw a hint I'm not about to humiliate myself in the middle of a college quad or somethin. Something has to trigger the initial conversation that both parties are interested and the conversation has to be casual you can't make it immediate that your intentions are to get her number. I swear these so called "social networking websites" are making people a lot more anti-social when it comes to the real world. Because I am in no means scared to approach a female randomly but every time I do these girls give me the craziest look, like "why are you approaching me? Do I know you? umm before you even ask me....No" all in one facial expression

yep

not entirely true.. it just gave the anti-social type a haven for "expressing themselves" 
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  (see: 50% of you FB & Twitter friends)
i dont think it's degraded the social skills of ppl who already had "it" to begin with..
 
Originally Posted by JoseBronx

Originally Posted by FlyJr22

Man I'm 23 and live in Cali and definitely don't get at no hoodrats or nothin, I try to stick to females with some class or some kind of sophistication. But if you're not in a social setting or your car doesn't speak for you (some kind of foreign whip) you're not gonna pull a girl who you completely don't know and try to approach. I try to stick to the one's who at least give me some kind of hint like a wink, smile or catch them looking a few times. Other than that I don't care how bad a female is or how much she's my type if she don't throw a hint I'm not about to humiliate myself in the middle of a college quad or somethin. Something has to trigger the initial conversation that both parties are interested and the conversation has to be casual you can't make it immediate that your intentions are to get her number. I swear these so called "social networking websites" are making people a lot more anti-social when it comes to the real world. Because I am in no means scared to approach a female randomly but every time I do these girls give me the craziest look, like "why are you approaching me? Do I know you? umm before you even ask me....No" all in one facial expression

yep

not entirely true.. it just gave the anti-social type a haven for "expressing themselves" 
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  (see: 50% of you FB & Twitter friends)
i dont think it's degraded the social skills of ppl who already had "it" to begin with..
 
most girls i meet have bfs, then when i proceed to ask them where/how did they(bf) first meet ? she responses with through a friend or friend's party
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most girls i meet have bfs, then when i proceed to ask them where/how did they(bf) first meet ? she responses with through a friend or friend's party
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Its common for people to exchange info in non-social settings.
Clubs are wack, because EVERYONE is in there putting up a
facade as to who they are. I find it interesting how most girls
feel a way about being approached when they are looking their
worst. Dudes are beasts.

I try to stick to the one's who at least give me some kind of hint like a wink, smile or catch them looking a few times. Other than that I don't care how bad a female is or how much she's my type if she don't throw a hint I'm not about to humiliate myself in the middle of a college quad or somethin.

I used to be like this, but sometimes u never kno, shorty might not have seen u.
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Its common for people to exchange info in non-social settings.
Clubs are wack, because EVERYONE is in there putting up a
facade as to who they are. I find it interesting how most girls
feel a way about being approached when they are looking their
worst. Dudes are beasts.

I try to stick to the one's who at least give me some kind of hint like a wink, smile or catch them looking a few times. Other than that I don't care how bad a female is or how much she's my type if she don't throw a hint I'm not about to humiliate myself in the middle of a college quad or somethin.

I used to be like this, but sometimes u never kno, shorty might not have seen u.
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to proper, I'm just saying people are more comfortable talking with a stranger through a piece of technology i.e. cellphone and not face to face. I mean really go out in the world and see how many people who are getting from point A to point B on foot in any setting and tell me they don't have some kind of portable technology to keep them busy or comfortable. Whether it's a cellphone, ipod, ipad or laptop. Its like when people are by themselves they feel like it's awkward if they don't have something to occupy themselves. Go to your local mall and go to the food court and see how many people are texting while they're supposed to be having a conversation.

Also none of my generalizations are indefinite, I'm not saying these happen all the time its just what I happen to observe multiple times in these situations. There are still SOME people who are very outgoing and social and willing to have a conversation with a complete stranger but very few. The game is changing my friends....the game is changing, and there comes a point where we must adapt. Actually we should be constantly adapting
 
to proper, I'm just saying people are more comfortable talking with a stranger through a piece of technology i.e. cellphone and not face to face. I mean really go out in the world and see how many people who are getting from point A to point B on foot in any setting and tell me they don't have some kind of portable technology to keep them busy or comfortable. Whether it's a cellphone, ipod, ipad or laptop. Its like when people are by themselves they feel like it's awkward if they don't have something to occupy themselves. Go to your local mall and go to the food court and see how many people are texting while they're supposed to be having a conversation.

Also none of my generalizations are indefinite, I'm not saying these happen all the time its just what I happen to observe multiple times in these situations. There are still SOME people who are very outgoing and social and willing to have a conversation with a complete stranger but very few. The game is changing my friends....the game is changing, and there comes a point where we must adapt. Actually we should be constantly adapting
 
Social cues are the difference, regardless of the setting. Guys honestly need to learn to adhere to them, if Ur game isn't top notch, or Ur not in the top 5% of good looking guys.

...these females are quick to call guys out when they don't pick up on body language, and theyre not stepping correct....and she's not going to boost once she's swept off her feet.
 
Social cues are the difference, regardless of the setting. Guys honestly need to learn to adhere to them, if Ur game isn't top notch, or Ur not in the top 5% of good looking guys.

...these females are quick to call guys out when they don't pick up on body language, and theyre not stepping correct....and she's not going to boost once she's swept off her feet.
 
JoseBronx wrote:
FlyJr22 wrote:
Man I'm 23 and live in Cali and definitely don't get at no hoodrats or nothin, I try to stick to females with some class or some kind of sophistication. But if you're not in a social setting or your car doesn't speak for you (some kind of foreign whip) you're not gonna pull a girl who you completely don't know and try to approach. I try to stick to the one's who at least give me some kind of hint like a wink, smile or catch them looking a few times. Other than that I don't care how bad a female is or how much she's my type if she don't throw a hint I'm not about to humiliate myself in the middle of a college quad or somethin. Something has to trigger the initial conversation that both parties are interested and the conversation has to be casual you can't make it immediate that your intentions are to get her number. I swear these so called "social networking websites" are making people a lot more anti-social when it comes to the real world. Because I am in no means scared to approach a female randomly but every time I do these girls give me the craziest look, like "why are you approaching me? Do I know you? umm before you even ask me....No" all in one facial expression

yep


Yup I agree..10 years ago..when I kick it with friends..everybody was talking..having a good time..

Now..

When I kick it with friends.. everybody except for me.. is either talking to somebody else on the phone.. texting.. or checking their facebook..
 
JoseBronx wrote:
FlyJr22 wrote:
Man I'm 23 and live in Cali and definitely don't get at no hoodrats or nothin, I try to stick to females with some class or some kind of sophistication. But if you're not in a social setting or your car doesn't speak for you (some kind of foreign whip) you're not gonna pull a girl who you completely don't know and try to approach. I try to stick to the one's who at least give me some kind of hint like a wink, smile or catch them looking a few times. Other than that I don't care how bad a female is or how much she's my type if she don't throw a hint I'm not about to humiliate myself in the middle of a college quad or somethin. Something has to trigger the initial conversation that both parties are interested and the conversation has to be casual you can't make it immediate that your intentions are to get her number. I swear these so called "social networking websites" are making people a lot more anti-social when it comes to the real world. Because I am in no means scared to approach a female randomly but every time I do these girls give me the craziest look, like "why are you approaching me? Do I know you? umm before you even ask me....No" all in one facial expression

yep


Yup I agree..10 years ago..when I kick it with friends..everybody was talking..having a good time..

Now..

When I kick it with friends.. everybody except for me.. is either talking to somebody else on the phone.. texting.. or checking their facebook..
 
Originally Posted by proper english

Originally Posted by JoseBronx

Originally Posted by FlyJr22

Man I'm 23 and live in Cali and definitely don't get at no hoodrats or nothin, I try to stick to females with some class or some kind of sophistication. But if you're not in a social setting or your car doesn't speak for you (some kind of foreign whip) you're not gonna pull a girl who you completely don't know and try to approach. I try to stick to the one's who at least give me some kind of hint like a wink, smile or catch them looking a few times. Other than that I don't care how bad a female is or how much she's my type if she don't throw a hint I'm not about to humiliate myself in the middle of a college quad or somethin. Something has to trigger the initial conversation that both parties are interested and the conversation has to be casual you can't make it immediate that your intentions are to get her number. I swear these so called "social networking websites" are making people a lot more anti-social when it comes to the real world. Because I am in no means scared to approach a female randomly but every time I do these girls give me the craziest look, like "why are you approaching me? Do I know you? umm before you even ask me....No" all in one facial expression

yep

not entirely true.. it just gave the anti-social type a haven for "expressing themselves" 
grin.gif
  (see: 50% of you FB & Twitter friends)
i dont think it's degraded the social skills of ppl who already had "it" to begin with..
i think dude is confusing the term anti-social with something else... maybe a person who is isolating himself from society? as far as trying to hook up with chicks through the digital world via twitter/fb.

a person who has an anti social personality is actually quiet charming and charismatic and is able to persuade people very easily. they types of people are able to make friends very easily because of their charming character. but in the end of it all they aren't able to develop the emotional relationship that people do with their friends/family/lovers. so they manipulate you and persuade you do to things for them and once they got what they needed from you they will leave you high and dry and you won't see them again till they come back in need of something else. im sure some of us have friends like these or have had in the past. they tend to be selfish, callous, irresponsible, impulsive in their actions, and have a low frustration tolerance.
 
Originally Posted by proper english

Originally Posted by JoseBronx

Originally Posted by FlyJr22

Man I'm 23 and live in Cali and definitely don't get at no hoodrats or nothin, I try to stick to females with some class or some kind of sophistication. But if you're not in a social setting or your car doesn't speak for you (some kind of foreign whip) you're not gonna pull a girl who you completely don't know and try to approach. I try to stick to the one's who at least give me some kind of hint like a wink, smile or catch them looking a few times. Other than that I don't care how bad a female is or how much she's my type if she don't throw a hint I'm not about to humiliate myself in the middle of a college quad or somethin. Something has to trigger the initial conversation that both parties are interested and the conversation has to be casual you can't make it immediate that your intentions are to get her number. I swear these so called "social networking websites" are making people a lot more anti-social when it comes to the real world. Because I am in no means scared to approach a female randomly but every time I do these girls give me the craziest look, like "why are you approaching me? Do I know you? umm before you even ask me....No" all in one facial expression

yep

not entirely true.. it just gave the anti-social type a haven for "expressing themselves" 
grin.gif
  (see: 50% of you FB & Twitter friends)
i dont think it's degraded the social skills of ppl who already had "it" to begin with..
i think dude is confusing the term anti-social with something else... maybe a person who is isolating himself from society? as far as trying to hook up with chicks through the digital world via twitter/fb.

a person who has an anti social personality is actually quiet charming and charismatic and is able to persuade people very easily. they types of people are able to make friends very easily because of their charming character. but in the end of it all they aren't able to develop the emotional relationship that people do with their friends/family/lovers. so they manipulate you and persuade you do to things for them and once they got what they needed from you they will leave you high and dry and you won't see them again till they come back in need of something else. im sure some of us have friends like these or have had in the past. they tend to be selfish, callous, irresponsible, impulsive in their actions, and have a low frustration tolerance.
 
Originally Posted by Ryda421

most girls i meet have bfs, then when i proceed to ask them where/how did they(bf) first meet ? she responses with through a friend or friend's party
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Sometimes they lie though sometimes they don't. A know many that have met through someone else. But not really a blind date sort of thing. For instance, my mom is trying to hook me up with a teacher at her school. So we'll how it goes. I guess getting a gf/bf is dependent on knowing someone closer to that person. Sort of like getting a job these days.

The game is changing my friends....the game is changing, and there comes a point where we must adapt. Actually we should be constantly adapting 
Agreed.
  
 
Originally Posted by Ryda421

most girls i meet have bfs, then when i proceed to ask them where/how did they(bf) first meet ? she responses with through a friend or friend's party
indifferent.gif
Sometimes they lie though sometimes they don't. A know many that have met through someone else. But not really a blind date sort of thing. For instance, my mom is trying to hook me up with a teacher at her school. So we'll how it goes. I guess getting a gf/bf is dependent on knowing someone closer to that person. Sort of like getting a job these days.

The game is changing my friends....the game is changing, and there comes a point where we must adapt. Actually we should be constantly adapting 
Agreed.
  
 
I would have to agree with the idea of all the social networking sites making people antisocial. To me it has taken the physical human interaction out of communication. Now-a-days after I meet a guy its always oh and imma look you up on FB too...most of the time i will be like ok. Even though I dont even have one. lol. I think the hadest part for me is saying no. Living in DC I have seen plenty of things go wrong when me or my girls would deny giving our numbers out. I dont see the big deal in which guys are so afraid to approach females. Rejection is apart of life. and you will always be rejected when you dont try. Besides if you are rejected...what are the chances you will even see that person again in life?
 
I would have to agree with the idea of all the social networking sites making people antisocial. To me it has taken the physical human interaction out of communication. Now-a-days after I meet a guy its always oh and imma look you up on FB too...most of the time i will be like ok. Even though I dont even have one. lol. I think the hadest part for me is saying no. Living in DC I have seen plenty of things go wrong when me or my girls would deny giving our numbers out. I dont see the big deal in which guys are so afraid to approach females. Rejection is apart of life. and you will always be rejected when you dont try. Besides if you are rejected...what are the chances you will even see that person again in life?
 
To the female(s) saying they get approached by dudes...word? I won't waste my time or effort if you are not a 8at least, if i am going to approach a female.

Many of my friends do the same, if you are going to approach a female whether it be in a library or spark up a convo on the bus, it's going to be either a 8+ or nada. No e-gas or douche-status but why would anyone in their right-mind attempt on doing so with a -8? Yea, rejection is going to happen or may happen but no reason in being rejected by a ugly girl, haha.


In other words, only females of a 7s and above caliber, get approached by dudes in non-social settings.

And i most add, yes rejection hurts, and you can lie to yourself however much you want about- i won't see them ever again, or i don't care keep it moving, bla bla bla. Your mindset can not be on-to-the-next-one, but how to improve your game and see yourself from a third-person view. Analyze body language and facial expressions, see what worked and didn't work; and keep improving your craft. I'm no expert, but i do like to experiment and have a plan. It is essential to have a gameplan when approaching females, just don't do it, TO DO IT. You'll come off by looking weak and childish.

Once you have a gameplan set and it works, approaching females would be so trivial and easy; you won't need it anymore and the words, the vibe, and the swag will flow naturally.
But lets' not fool ourselves, now. You got to be at least a 6-7 nomo, i know alot of females say-oh his personality or some dudes would say he must be loaded, rich, bla bla. In the end, if she is with him for $$ , that will be his prime and once she leaves him, he will forever be remembering her on some simp status. Game can only do so much, you can't be looking like huntchback of notredame and have a 9beside you. Keep in shape, groom yourself, carry yourself with respect, whenever you talk be loud(who gives a damn if you are too loud, whispers are weak), and treat everyone with respect till they give you a reason not to.

Damn, i should write a book, haha.
 
To the female(s) saying they get approached by dudes...word? I won't waste my time or effort if you are not a 8at least, if i am going to approach a female.

Many of my friends do the same, if you are going to approach a female whether it be in a library or spark up a convo on the bus, it's going to be either a 8+ or nada. No e-gas or douche-status but why would anyone in their right-mind attempt on doing so with a -8? Yea, rejection is going to happen or may happen but no reason in being rejected by a ugly girl, haha.


In other words, only females of a 7s and above caliber, get approached by dudes in non-social settings.

And i most add, yes rejection hurts, and you can lie to yourself however much you want about- i won't see them ever again, or i don't care keep it moving, bla bla bla. Your mindset can not be on-to-the-next-one, but how to improve your game and see yourself from a third-person view. Analyze body language and facial expressions, see what worked and didn't work; and keep improving your craft. I'm no expert, but i do like to experiment and have a plan. It is essential to have a gameplan when approaching females, just don't do it, TO DO IT. You'll come off by looking weak and childish.

Once you have a gameplan set and it works, approaching females would be so trivial and easy; you won't need it anymore and the words, the vibe, and the swag will flow naturally.
But lets' not fool ourselves, now. You got to be at least a 6-7 nomo, i know alot of females say-oh his personality or some dudes would say he must be loaded, rich, bla bla. In the end, if she is with him for $$ , that will be his prime and once she leaves him, he will forever be remembering her on some simp status. Game can only do so much, you can't be looking like huntchback of notredame and have a 9beside you. Keep in shape, groom yourself, carry yourself with respect, whenever you talk be loud(who gives a damn if you are too loud, whispers are weak), and treat everyone with respect till they give you a reason not to.

Damn, i should write a book, haha.
 
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