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hey how much you make reffing? and do u have another job or is referring ya only gig? how does one start to become a hs n college ref?

i always looking into reffing but i gamble on sports
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hey how much you make reffing? and do u have another job or is referring ya only gig? how does one start to become a hs n college ref?

i always looking into reffing but i gamble on sports
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@HybridSoldier23

NOT SOUNDING LIKE A JERK BUT...THE NBA IS SOMETIMES "RIGGED" THAT'S WHY I HAVE NO INTENTIONS OF GOING TO THE LEAGUE. LEBRON IS AN ELITE PLAYER, ITS CRUNCH TIME THEY WOULDN'T CALL IT CUZ ITS ENTERTAINMENT....AND WITH ENTERTAINMENT COMES FICTION....AND WE ALL KNOW WHAT FICTION IS.

95% OF THE TIME IN COLLEGE WE CATCH ALL TRAVELS LATE IN GAMES BUT A PLAY LIKE THAT HAS TO BE CALLED BY THE REFS ANY COACH ON HS OR COLLEGE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN TOSSED RIGHTFULLY SO CUZ NOT ONLY DO YOU NOT CALL A TRAVEL BUT THEN A FOUL WITH 7.1 LEFT IN THE GAME FOR 2 SHOTS...IN A 1 PT GAME
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@ME NO PASS

YES I HAVE A FULL TIME JOB AND DO THIS PART TIME BUT DURING THE SEASON NOV-FEB I PRETTY MUCH MAKE AS MUCH MONEY AS I NORMALLY WOULD AT WORK.

REFFING IS AN EASY WAY TO MAKE SIDE CASH MONEY YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO HS OR COLLEGE TO MAKE $$$ DOING AAU ON THE REGULAR OR CYO OR MEN'S LEAGUES PAYS OFF. AVERAGE AMOUNT IN NYC FOR KIDS AND MENS RANGES FROM $40-$55 A GAME...THAT'S AN EASY HOUR'S WORTH OF WORK CASH IN YOUR HAND.

HS VARSITY PAYS $100 (3 REFS) - $125 (2 REFS)

JUCO'S PAY $140
D3'S $150 PLUS TRAVEL
D2'S $225 PLUS TRAVEL
AND...
D1'S CAN GO FROM $895 - $3300

FOR HS AND REC BALL ALL YOU GOTTA DO IS GET CERTIFIED.

FOR COLLEGE YOU GOTTA PAY TO GO TO CAMPS AND TRYOUTS. HERE'S THE KICKER WITH THIS. I GO TO TRYOUTS AND CAMPS AND PAY $250-$450 FOR THEM TO SEE ME WORK. NOW THESE ARE THE SAME I WOULD NORMALLY GET PAID FOR ONLY THIS TIME I'M NOT GETTING PAID TO THE DO THE GAME I'M ACTUALLY THE ONE PAYING.

AS FAR AS YOUR GAMBLING. AS LONG AS YOU USE AN ALIAS WHEN PLACING BETS AND NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT IT YOU CAN WORK. I WORK WITH A LOT OF GAMBLERS JUST DON'T PULL A TIM DONAHEY...
 
@HybridSoldier23

NOT SOUNDING LIKE A JERK BUT...THE NBA IS SOMETIMES "RIGGED" THAT'S WHY I HAVE NO INTENTIONS OF GOING TO THE LEAGUE. LEBRON IS AN ELITE PLAYER, ITS CRUNCH TIME THEY WOULDN'T CALL IT CUZ ITS ENTERTAINMENT....AND WITH ENTERTAINMENT COMES FICTION....AND WE ALL KNOW WHAT FICTION IS.

95% OF THE TIME IN COLLEGE WE CATCH ALL TRAVELS LATE IN GAMES BUT A PLAY LIKE THAT HAS TO BE CALLED BY THE REFS ANY COACH ON HS OR COLLEGE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN TOSSED RIGHTFULLY SO CUZ NOT ONLY DO YOU NOT CALL A TRAVEL BUT THEN A FOUL WITH 7.1 LEFT IN THE GAME FOR 2 SHOTS...IN A 1 PT GAME
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@ME NO PASS

YES I HAVE A FULL TIME JOB AND DO THIS PART TIME BUT DURING THE SEASON NOV-FEB I PRETTY MUCH MAKE AS MUCH MONEY AS I NORMALLY WOULD AT WORK.

REFFING IS AN EASY WAY TO MAKE SIDE CASH MONEY YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO HS OR COLLEGE TO MAKE $$$ DOING AAU ON THE REGULAR OR CYO OR MEN'S LEAGUES PAYS OFF. AVERAGE AMOUNT IN NYC FOR KIDS AND MENS RANGES FROM $40-$55 A GAME...THAT'S AN EASY HOUR'S WORTH OF WORK CASH IN YOUR HAND.

HS VARSITY PAYS $100 (3 REFS) - $125 (2 REFS)

JUCO'S PAY $140
D3'S $150 PLUS TRAVEL
D2'S $225 PLUS TRAVEL
AND...
D1'S CAN GO FROM $895 - $3300

FOR HS AND REC BALL ALL YOU GOTTA DO IS GET CERTIFIED.

FOR COLLEGE YOU GOTTA PAY TO GO TO CAMPS AND TRYOUTS. HERE'S THE KICKER WITH THIS. I GO TO TRYOUTS AND CAMPS AND PAY $250-$450 FOR THEM TO SEE ME WORK. NOW THESE ARE THE SAME I WOULD NORMALLY GET PAID FOR ONLY THIS TIME I'M NOT GETTING PAID TO THE DO THE GAME I'M ACTUALLY THE ONE PAYING.

AS FAR AS YOUR GAMBLING. AS LONG AS YOU USE AN ALIAS WHEN PLACING BETS AND NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT IT YOU CAN WORK. I WORK WITH A LOT OF GAMBLERS JUST DON'T PULL A TIM DONAHEY...
 
In regards to ref pay, I know certified idiots making $40/game doing adult rec leagues (Seattle). Two games a night, two or three nights a week. Nice little bit of extra cash for not really trying hard. I've thought about it, and I know the right people to get a job, but never pulled the trigger.

But reading the NBA-related comments by OP reminds of refs I used to work with a lot back in the day, and the politics at the upper levels of competition. I was mainly a scorer and timer for rec leagues, but I was so reliable (I know that sounds corny, but everyone who has ever played a rec league game knows how damn shady/stupid those people running the clock can be, especially if there's a rooting interest) that a lot of refs loved working games with me and would tell me stories about their experiences.

For example, there were a couple old Pac-10 refs who got let go in the mass firing of Pac-10 refs in the '90s, when the new director of officials fired every ref who wasn't from California. He then hired replacements that were all from California. At one point in the Pac-10, every referee was from the state of California. You'll never hear about this, of course. That conference is a joke.

The even bigger joke is the NBA, but more on an entertainment level. There was one ref I worked with a lot, who is definitely one of the best non-NBA refs in the country. He's turned down offers from the league many times over the years. He straight up told me he couldn't live with himself buying into the politics and the show. And he's not just blowing smoke, this guy is legit as hell. Everyone knows him. I've seen local NBA players bug him about going to the league. He just won't do it. He has a regular day job, but is an NBA-class ref on top of that.
 
In regards to ref pay, I know certified idiots making $40/game doing adult rec leagues (Seattle). Two games a night, two or three nights a week. Nice little bit of extra cash for not really trying hard. I've thought about it, and I know the right people to get a job, but never pulled the trigger.

But reading the NBA-related comments by OP reminds of refs I used to work with a lot back in the day, and the politics at the upper levels of competition. I was mainly a scorer and timer for rec leagues, but I was so reliable (I know that sounds corny, but everyone who has ever played a rec league game knows how damn shady/stupid those people running the clock can be, especially if there's a rooting interest) that a lot of refs loved working games with me and would tell me stories about their experiences.

For example, there were a couple old Pac-10 refs who got let go in the mass firing of Pac-10 refs in the '90s, when the new director of officials fired every ref who wasn't from California. He then hired replacements that were all from California. At one point in the Pac-10, every referee was from the state of California. You'll never hear about this, of course. That conference is a joke.

The even bigger joke is the NBA, but more on an entertainment level. There was one ref I worked with a lot, who is definitely one of the best non-NBA refs in the country. He's turned down offers from the league many times over the years. He straight up told me he couldn't live with himself buying into the politics and the show. And he's not just blowing smoke, this guy is legit as hell. Everyone knows him. I've seen local NBA players bug him about going to the league. He just won't do it. He has a regular day job, but is an NBA-class ref on top of that.
 
Originally Posted by McFlyer

Near the end of close games, how tight do you call the game?

WE CALL WHAT WE NEED TO CALL. A FOUL IS A FOUL. HOWEVER....I'M NOT CALLING A TICKY TACK FOUL ON A PLAYER GOING TO THE HOLE IF THE HIT ISN'T AFFECTING HIM FROM GOING FROM POINT A TO POINT B.

VIOLATIONS YOU GOTTA CALL, THEY ARE RULES.

A FOUL IS A JUDGEMENT CALL, BASICALLY MEANING HOW MUCH CONTACT AM I GOING TO DEEM A FOUL HAS OCCURRED. SINE PLAYERS  OKAY THRU CONTACT SOME CAN'T.
 
Originally Posted by McFlyer

Near the end of close games, how tight do you call the game?

WE CALL WHAT WE NEED TO CALL. A FOUL IS A FOUL. HOWEVER....I'M NOT CALLING A TICKY TACK FOUL ON A PLAYER GOING TO THE HOLE IF THE HIT ISN'T AFFECTING HIM FROM GOING FROM POINT A TO POINT B.

VIOLATIONS YOU GOTTA CALL, THEY ARE RULES.

A FOUL IS A JUDGEMENT CALL, BASICALLY MEANING HOW MUCH CONTACT AM I GOING TO DEEM A FOUL HAS OCCURRED. SINE PLAYERS  OKAY THRU CONTACT SOME CAN'T.
 
Originally Posted by bigsupa



AS FAR AS YOUR GAMBLING. AS LONG AS YOU USE AN ALIAS WHEN PLACING BETS AND NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT IT YOU CAN WORK. I WORK WITH A LOT OF GAMBLERS JUST DON'T PULL A TIM DONAHEY...
they run rampant in college....word to the 2nd half adjustment calls 
 
Originally Posted by bigsupa



AS FAR AS YOUR GAMBLING. AS LONG AS YOU USE AN ALIAS WHEN PLACING BETS AND NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT IT YOU CAN WORK. I WORK WITH A LOT OF GAMBLERS JUST DON'T PULL A TIM DONAHEY...
they run rampant in college....word to the 2nd half adjustment calls 
 
Originally Posted by Mr Marcus

Originally Posted by bigsupa



AS FAR AS YOUR GAMBLING. AS LONG AS YOU USE AN ALIAS WHEN PLACING BETS AND NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT IT YOU CAN WORK. I WORK WITH A LOT OF GAMBLERS JUST DON'T PULL A TIM DONAHEY...
they run rampant in college....word to the 2nd half adjustment calls 

NOT AS MUCH AS YOU THINK...
 
Originally Posted by Mr Marcus

Originally Posted by bigsupa



AS FAR AS YOUR GAMBLING. AS LONG AS YOU USE AN ALIAS WHEN PLACING BETS AND NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT IT YOU CAN WORK. I WORK WITH A LOT OF GAMBLERS JUST DON'T PULL A TIM DONAHEY...
they run rampant in college....word to the 2nd half adjustment calls 

NOT AS MUCH AS YOU THINK...
 
In women's basketball when they do a shot fake up and under, on the step through they pick up their pivot foot then jump with their other foot and it is not a travel... Why?

I am coaching in D2 women's and after being in the men's college game for 4 years I notice they call things differently
 
In women's basketball when they do a shot fake up and under, on the step through they pick up their pivot foot then jump with their other foot and it is not a travel... Why?

I am coaching in D2 women's and after being in the men's college game for 4 years I notice they call things differently
 
Originally Posted by DaG311

In women's basketball when they do a shot fake up and under, on the step through they pick up their pivot foot then jump with their other foot and it is not a travel... Why?

I am coaching in D2 women's and after being in the men's college game for 4 years I notice they call things differently

WELL FOR STARTERS YEA YOU ARE 100% CORRECT...THE WOMEN'S GAME IS DEF CALLED DIFFERENTLY...NOT TO SOUND SEXIST BUT THEY AREN'T AS AGILE OR AS TALENTED AS THE MEN.

THE GAMES ARE CALLED SOFTER AND TO BRING EXCITEMENT TO THE GAME THEY TEND TO LET CERTAIN THINGS GO...FOR EXAMPLE THE PLAY YOU MENTIONED.

IF YOU CAN SHOW ME A VIDEO OF PLAYS I'LL BE MORE THAN LIKELY TO ASSIST YOU IN WHAT EVER QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
 
Originally Posted by DaG311

In women's basketball when they do a shot fake up and under, on the step through they pick up their pivot foot then jump with their other foot and it is not a travel... Why?

I am coaching in D2 women's and after being in the men's college game for 4 years I notice they call things differently

WELL FOR STARTERS YEA YOU ARE 100% CORRECT...THE WOMEN'S GAME IS DEF CALLED DIFFERENTLY...NOT TO SOUND SEXIST BUT THEY AREN'T AS AGILE OR AS TALENTED AS THE MEN.

THE GAMES ARE CALLED SOFTER AND TO BRING EXCITEMENT TO THE GAME THEY TEND TO LET CERTAIN THINGS GO...FOR EXAMPLE THE PLAY YOU MENTIONED.

IF YOU CAN SHOW ME A VIDEO OF PLAYS I'LL BE MORE THAN LIKELY TO ASSIST YOU IN WHAT EVER QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
 
Originally Posted by bigsupa

Originally Posted by DaG311

In women's basketball when they do a shot fake up and under, on the step through they pick up their pivot foot then jump with their other foot and it is not a travel... Why?

I am coaching in D2 women's and after being in the men's college game for 4 years I notice they call things differently

WELL FOR STARTERS YEA YOU ARE 100% CORRECT...THE WOMEN'S GAME IS DEF CALLED DIFFERENTLY...NOT TO SOUND SEXIST BUT THEY AREN'T AS AGILE OR AS TALENTED AS THE MEN.

THE GAMES ARE CALLED SOFTER AND TO BRING EXCITEMENT TO THE GAME THEY TEND TO LET CERTAIN THINGS GO...FOR EXAMPLE THE PLAY YOU MENTIONED.

IF YOU CAN SHOW ME A VIDEO OF PLAYS I'LL BE MORE THAN LIKELY TO ASSIST YOU IN WHAT EVER QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
That isn't sexist at all, it's true. My goal is to get them to play more like men. That is the one that frustrates me the most because it is clearly a travel.

The other thing they don't let slide is when they catch and gather themselves to try to get the correct pivot foot, they call it a travel. (How MJ does in this video vs the Lakers)
 
Originally Posted by bigsupa

Originally Posted by DaG311

In women's basketball when they do a shot fake up and under, on the step through they pick up their pivot foot then jump with their other foot and it is not a travel... Why?

I am coaching in D2 women's and after being in the men's college game for 4 years I notice they call things differently

WELL FOR STARTERS YEA YOU ARE 100% CORRECT...THE WOMEN'S GAME IS DEF CALLED DIFFERENTLY...NOT TO SOUND SEXIST BUT THEY AREN'T AS AGILE OR AS TALENTED AS THE MEN.

THE GAMES ARE CALLED SOFTER AND TO BRING EXCITEMENT TO THE GAME THEY TEND TO LET CERTAIN THINGS GO...FOR EXAMPLE THE PLAY YOU MENTIONED.

IF YOU CAN SHOW ME A VIDEO OF PLAYS I'LL BE MORE THAN LIKELY TO ASSIST YOU IN WHAT EVER QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
That isn't sexist at all, it's true. My goal is to get them to play more like men. That is the one that frustrates me the most because it is clearly a travel.

The other thing they don't let slide is when they catch and gather themselves to try to get the correct pivot foot, they call it a travel. (How MJ does in this video vs the Lakers)
 
Originally Posted by DaG311

In women's basketball when they do a shot fake up and under, on the step through they pick up their pivot foot then jump with their other foot and it is not a travel... Why?

I am coaching in D2 women's and after being in the men's college game for 4 years I notice they call things differently


What college do you coach at DaG311??
 
Originally Posted by DaG311

In women's basketball when they do a shot fake up and under, on the step through they pick up their pivot foot then jump with their other foot and it is not a travel... Why?

I am coaching in D2 women's and after being in the men's college game for 4 years I notice they call things differently


What college do you coach at DaG311??
 
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